Anavar Side Effects

[Logan13]

I'll edit it...I'll put it in the profile (more clearly)...but you can clearly see that it IS in there...even if you can't read it...

I appreciate your time involved in the profiles, Hooker. I am not trying to nick-pick, but I believe that this is important info. You wrote this about Primo: "Although estrogenic sides are not a concern, hair loss still, remains a very real concern with Primobolan, as with many DHT-Derived steroids." Do you believe that the DHT related side effects with Anavar are anything to worry about, I have some on the way, this is the reason that I was so blown back by this info.

[Money Boss Hustla]

I appreciate your time involved in the profiles, Hooker. I am not trying to nick-pick, but I believe that this is important info. You wrote this about Primo: "Although estrogenic sides are not a concern, hair loss still, remains a very real concern with Primobolan, as with many DHT-Derived steroids." Do you believe that the DHT related side effects with Anavar are anything to worry about, I have some on the way, this is the reason that I was so blown back by this info.

My hair thinned really bad on it.

[sbaz]

My hair thinned really bad on it.

How many milligrams were you taking and what else were you taking at the time?

[Money Boss Hustla]

Thanks for the suggestion Logan13. Hooker will take it under advisement.

[Property of Steroid.com]

I concur with Hustla' ....DHT-sides wouldn't be too noticable/probable with 'var....but they are possible....

[Logan13]

I concur with Hustla' ....DHT-sides wouldn't be too noticable/probable with 'var....but they are possible....

Thanks guys, ya learned me good.

[Money Boss Hustla]

We're all hear to learn and discuss. Thanks for being standup.

[bignatt]

This is an article from Muscular Development from the Building The Perfect Beast Column

Q: In your books Chemical Muscle Enhancement and building the perfect beast you say anavar doesn't negativley effect the HPTA i heard about a study that proves it does in olnly a few days is this something you disagree with?

A: Hmmm, so you feel that oxandrolone (anavar) is inhibitive to the HPTA itself? interesting. Or may it may be a matter of matter of not understating what the HPTA refers to.

Why would anyone care if the HPTA did anything?
The HPTA is the group of glands that directly regulates the amount of androgens and sperm the male produce The hypothalamus secretes GnRH When GnRH meets up with the pituirtary gland it tells it to release LH and FSH Then LH and FSH act as chemical messengers that tell the testes to produce androgens and sperm if we do not have androgens or sperm we do not have muscle or sex

What directly regulates the hpta?
For the most part we are aware that the HPTA is regulated to the greatest extent by estrogen levels in the bodys blood circulatory system and we know most anabolic androgenic steroids aromatize to estrogens to some degree or have some estrogenic nature themselves thus we use the specific degree of aromatization and the prime deciding factor in regard to HPTA supressing potential for any AAS in short more estrogen means less natural testosterone and sperm production
Oxandrolone does not aromatize to estrogens and is therefore not directly inhibitive or suppresive to HPTA function I have monitored many hrt recipients who only used oxandrolone for prolonged periods with few exceptions these individuals maintained 60% or more normal HPTA activity since weekly LH and FSH fluctuations can sometimes be 50% +or- normal for any individual this is not a true sign of direct HPTA suppresion these individuals also have lower than normal estrogen levels due to no accumalative estrogen from aromatization with post oxandrolone use the return of normal LH and FSH is fairly quick
LH levels decrease with non aromatizing AAS due to increased neuronet activity this is a common effect of dht and its derivatives such as oxandrolone this is not HPTA suppresion due to a true negative feedback loop but rather neuronet overload in short the HPTA stands for Hypothalamus Pituitary Testes Axis. Not to be a smart ass but there is no N for neuro-net in HPTA

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This is an article from Muscular Development from the Building The Perfect Beast Column

The argument the author makes here is something like saying "Hey you killed that guy when you threw him off the roof" and he says "NO....the ground killed him, not me."

See...he's saying anavar suppresses your LH levels, and thus your testosterone levels...but that's not "true" HPTA suppression due to the mechanism(s) involved.

End result = The exact same as HPTA suppression

[Property of Steroid.com]

Oxandrolone does not aromatize to estrogens and is therefore not directly inhibitive or suppresive to HPTA function

That's funny, because Deca only has 1/5th the ability to aromatize of testosterone and yet it shuts your natural test production completely off with a single 100mg injection....yet that same 100mg shot of test (*which aromatizes more) takes 5-6 weeks of shots to do the same thing.

Result? That dude is totally incorrect. I have his book as a PDF, too....what a waste of harddrive space....

[bignatt]

posted that before just thgought it would be something to bring back up

[bignatt]

ya i just thought it was interesting so i posted it

[Recklace]

How do the sides of Anavar compare to the sides of Oral Turanabol which has Anavar in it? How do the results compare?

[Money Boss Hustla]

Thanks hooker. It was not a total shut down compared to running a 16 week test cycle. However I did notice a little shut down...and as hooker said I did a small PCT to get back. Sorry for the confusion guys. Everyone's different too. I had bad deca dick once...some of friends don't get it. I lost hair on var...some don't.

I did anavar only 40-60mg ED. Didn't like it that much. Anavar is a complimentary drug...meaning it works best when stacked with something. Saved the rest of the var and then did test prop 100mg ED and var 60mg ED...amazing cycle.

[Nicky B]

Prop with var best cycle for the summer months IMO.

[droddy]

Is there anything you can take other than test during a tbol ( or var ) only cycle to prevent the "Shut down"? I know some clomid pct after would help and I plan on milk thistle, but anything during?

[wired-up]

Is there anything you can take other than test during a tbol ( or var ) only cycle to prevent the "Shut down"? I know some clomid pct after would help and I plan on milk thistle, but anything during?

not really. you can do some HCG during the cycle that will helps keep the boys full, but you'll still supress your HPTA to some extent. as MBHustla said though, everyone's different. depends on what you're doing, how much, how long, and your own body's reactions.

[wired-up]

thanks for the clarifications to both Hooker and MBHustla.

I did anavar only 40-60mg ED. Didn't like it that much. Anavar is a complimentary drug...meaning it works best when stacked with something. Saved the rest of the var and then did test prop 100mg ED and var 60mg ED...amazing cycle.

thanks for explaining your cycle better. what didn't you like about the var only cycle? i know it's best when used with something else (i'm using it with test and tren enan's right now). was it the results for the money that you didn't like? or was there a physical aspect you didn't like?

[bignatt]

trib at 4grams some say

[Duke of Earl]

Var makes me a bit moody & letargic - other than that never noticed any sides.

[needmassx3]

bump

[Jerzey]

I took 10 mg/day for 8 weeks and I did breakout from it... and my clit did swell for the full 8 weeks. I also had an increase in strength and I definitely felt the difference in my muscles. It gave me a noticeable hardness, especially in my thighs and bi's. I plan on running it again in Mid-august once I drop some more bf, along with the GH I'm on.

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Yeah...I hear it makes girls' clits swell a bit....

[Jerzey]

Yeah...I hear it makes girls' clits swell a bit....

A bit is putting it lightly

[Property of Steroid.com]

I think it also increases libido, especially in women, a bit ....even at a low(ish) dose of....say...10mgs/day...

[Jerzey]

Once again I must say that a bit is an understatement.....

[Property of Steroid.com]

I suppose whoever was around when that happened was a lucky guy...

[Jerzey]

I suppose whoever was around when that happened was a lucky guy...

Unfortunately, he wasn't around that often... and now, not at all

[Property of Steroid.com]

Then he was lucky while he was around.

[BuildaBeast]

So how much var for a guy who is 6'1" and 230? What pct would I need?

[inevitable]

So how much var for a guy who is 6'1" and 230? What pct would I need?

no one can tell u how much var to take.. everyone reacts different... if u want to start taking var, start it at 40mg/ED and go from there.. also for pct 50mg/clomid for like 15 days.