well said. alot is possible when you want it bad enough.
well said. alot is possible when you want it bad enough.
i find it funny how you know so much about my history. Im 19 and started lifting seriously at the age of 13. I am a competitive bodybuilder jackass. I have not been on stage since I lived in louisiana but remain undefeated. I have nothing to be jealous of, ive never lostOriginally Posted by IBdmfkr
my comments have nothing to do with being jealous, its just funny to read how some people think this kid is natural. Maybe if some of you older heads could spend sometime in highschool today you would see what im talking about, steroids are ALL over. Why the hell do you think espn or some new channel has a news special on teen steroid abuse every other week.
just to cap off on that comments about just being jealous. I am a bodybuilder so I could give 2 sh*ts about him being that strong. I just turned 19 and on my first cycle at 18 i got up to 240. With my next cycle upcoming I will almost for sure break 250.
your right, i'm wrong.
think of the planet like a statistics problem. people fall into the general population numbers. there are people who fall in the 90th percentile and up for athletic ability. there are many of them in the U.S. and the world, all over the place. then there are the people who are 95th and up. they are out there, they are freaks, but believe what you like. i can recommned you to a web page with pics but i'm not because i'm not telling some high school kid i put him on a drug based web forum. but a good idea none the less.
i've seen them, and i don't need pics or fake numbers to prove it.
like i said, your right, i'm wrong.
Originally Posted by Fjock
He could be natural. If someone has the time to train, especially for the types of events he has to do, it will give the appearence of a lot of strength. I am 20 and comepte in strongman competitions and I will be the first to tell you that about 85% if the competition is being familiar with the appartus you are using. A guy can be the strongest man alive, and if he has never walked with a super yoke, or picked up a 52" diameter stone that weighs 335lbs, he is going to struggle. It is all about the time he has to train. I would love to have a trainer and be able to devote myself to it, but with school, it gets in the way. Just saying, maybe you should just assume someone is juicing b/c they do well in strongman. It isn't as much strength as it is technique and familiarity with the competitions and events.
anyone got a link to view mor about this kid?
Originally Posted by Fjock
regardless, are you being titled the strongest teen? NO.. ok then stop whining. You are nowhere near second best to this guy, if you'll took the same cycles, ate the same, and competed side by side, he would run you to the ground.. nuff said.
nick that girl in your avitar...nice
hes natural, ive seen him before at a party. he is big, dont get me wrong but camera angles on the show make him look a hell of a lot bigger than he really is. but back on the subject, hes natural. he definatelly looks like a genetic prone kid. thats all
oh yes, since were on the subject, jay cutler is natural...Originally Posted by PlasticFuture112
How the hell do you know what he sticks in his ass behind closed doors?
no cover, just not reve****g identities on the web, email, whatever. your generation is too liberal with that stuff. i would never post my pics or anyone elses. for what? to make you believe me? i'll be alright if you don't.
i don't care if you believe me. really. good luck with body building.
haha this thread is going nowhere fast
i saw the kid on mtv episode
Some of you might think he's natural but i think he's "NATTRO" as in not 100% natural
When the kid says he's nattro,dont get him wrong because some might get the wrong idea and think he's natural
Last edited by Joey2ness; 07-12-2005 at 11:04 PM.
i believe there is a chance he didnt juice..i have a buddy who's genitics are very similar to him, he doesnt juice but is naturally one strong mofo.
if you are too retarted to understand what I am talking about here is a perfect example of why it would not aid me to use my real age on steroid forums.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=527257
lol..this shiet never gets Old!
The kid can be nattro
look at polands worlds strongest man
Mariusz Pudzianowski
http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...dzianowski.jpg
http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...0205144430.jpg
and look whos name i can type by slamming my head on the keyboard 3 times
erfllbdsi
who cares if hes on juice. unfortunatly, i would never get that big naturally, so i would need it. what the diff. if hes bigger than you naturally anyway? If he needs juices or not? I guess if it makes one feel bad because they couldnt naturally obtain that size, i would understand the point of this thread...
its not that I couldnt reach that size naturally. my natural weight before my first cycle was 225 at 18 years old. Im pretty confident i coulda hit 240 somewhere in my 19th year naturally. I had plans to compete at a show where almost everyone is on sauce so I juiced. unfortunatly my I never got around to competing, damn collegeMy next cycle is gonna be all about bulk so I plan on slapping on some real weight.
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5 of your posts were you tooting your own horn and 3 of them were you saying "i am 19 yrs old, 240lbs"Originally Posted by Fjock
get over yourself, this thread isnt about you, start ur own thread if u wanna pat ur own back and stop posting stats w/out pics
and just about all of your post are hating on me. Im glad I grab your attention bro. no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to continue participating on this thread. So why dont you get over me and concentrate on another thread if you arent feeling this one. Im not tooting my horn, im just relating this kids 19 year old physique to my own since we are the same age and about same weight.Originally Posted by V5RED
Son you couldnt even step on stage next to me without getting embarassed so stay in your league. This is big boy material. And since your so worried about me hyping myself up, just for you i will also throw in the fact that hes about 3 inches taller than me.If thats your pic as your avatar, I can see why you get a little frustrated.
Last edited by Fjock; 07-14-2005 at 02:46 AM.
I think that there is always the chance that he does not juice. He could be extremely genetically gifted, eat right, and train hard. But, its a lot more likely that he juices. If I were forced to bet, I would bet he juices. As long as there is no solid proof, this arguement will go on forever, the original poster was simply asking for opinions, and no one's opinion is right or wrong. It is simply the conclusion they came up with. Get over it.
my friend told me ronnie coleman doesnt juice...i HAD to prove him wrong...
Ronnie is black and black people have really good genetics and genetics is the way blacks gain muscleOriginally Posted by icedudez
joking is there actually anyway to prove he juices,did anyone see ronnie stick a needle in himseld,well its hard to prove that other then he looks like a big time user and he could probably get away with saying he has extremely good genetics and the public will believe
Last edited by Joey2ness; 07-15-2005 at 05:36 PM.
I honestly hope you dont believe that..And i dont see how you can come off saying black people have really good genetics,and its how black people gain muscle,joking or not. is this a racial comment..Originally Posted by Joey2ness
~DV~
Could a mod please control/lock/move this thread? It's quickly becoming rediculous and off topic.
Black Americans DO have good genetics. Great genetics in fact. Black people make up roughly 13% of the American population and yet they DOMINATE many different sports, including bodybuilding. If that ain't good genetics, I don't know what is... You can't deny, Germans, Black Americans and Russians/Polacks/etc. can build muscle better than anyone else.Originally Posted by dirtyvegas
please ide love to see a study on this but not one done by what you believe. thats a bunch of bulllsshit and you know it...Originally Posted by scriptfactory
~DV~
...so i walked up to his crib knocked on the door with a warrent for his premises...and im sure u can work out the rest...
EXACTLY ....SHOW SOME PICS OF THESE 18 YEAR OLDs WHO DEADLIFT 600 POUNDS naturally mind you.......just like i see kids at the gym that are 18 benching 450 no problem![]()
heh, so i see im not the only one who finds that a those numbers a little extremeOriginally Posted by BIGPAPAPUMP77
I saw that one! he looks big and way strong. I was thinking the same thing!
Dude has a lot of tats for 19 years old. I personally think he's on juice. You usually can't get a "full house" look until your early to mid 20's when training natural. Look at his traps. I know my traps get bloated when I'm on juice. When I'm off they don't pump and fill up as much. But then again, he could be a genetic freak. I know a guy like him that is genetically gifted. He's about the same size at 6'4". But he took juice to enahance his freakish genetics. C'mon, all of those guys in the strong man competition are juiced. That's a international juice convention. I like watching it.
I agree about the international juice convention. I have a hard time believing they are natural when someone claims it.Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
All I have to say is if he really is natural God Help any other strong man when he actually does use juice. But I changed my mind about look in the begining of the show he is around 240. Even taking some anavar with a 7000 calorie or so diet will get him over 250 in 2months think about it. I think he has genetics from GOD.
that would be so awesome to be that big without using any steriods.
were his parents big
I think you guys are out for blood with this kid. I am 20, and I am a powerlifter/strongman competitor. When I was 19 I never even thought of using any type of AAS, even if it was available, and it was, and I could bench 450 or so, squat about 600, and deadlift 585. I am 20 now, soon to be 21. . .I can bench 525 as of yesterday, squat 835, and deadlift 715 as of two days ago. I have done one cycle, one, and I got about 98% of my strength through hard training, personally, just cuz someone is big, and is stronger then you are, doesn't mean they juice.
Good post bro, it seems that everyone nowadays assumes u juice if ur big...Originally Posted by Liftgod84
its awful and ignorant if u ask me...
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