O-turinabol is like dbol but weaker?

[Seattle Junk]

how does it not decrease libido just out of curiousity

Any AAS used long enough can decrease libido, you should know that. Some drugs have acute effects on the HPTA like tren, deca (19-nors), dbol, drol, high amounts of test, etc.... Basically anything with a high androgenic score will usually give you sexual sides. That's why it's important to use HCG througout androgenic cycles. I really wish I knew that 10+ years ago cuz I got shut down hard one time and that was no fun....

[bignatt]

Any AAS used long enough can decrease libido, you should know that. Some drugs have acute effects on the HPTA like tren, deca (19-nors), dbol, drol, high amounts of test, etc.... Basically anything with a high androgenic score will usually give you sexual sides. That's why it's important to use HCG througout androgenic cycles. I really wish I knew that 10+ years ago cuz I got shut down hard one time and that was no fun....

I realize that any exogenous test or synthetic derivative of it will have an effect on the hpta so why wouldnt oral tbol

[Seattle Junk]

I realize that any exogenous test or synthetic derivative of it will have an effect on the hpta so why wouldnt oral tbol

It would and it will if you use tbol for a prolonged period. I'm not Ross and I do not think tbol is God's gift to BBs. I like tbol but I don't think I'll be using it again for awhile. I'm going to stick with injectables like I have so far. Orals are great for keeping blood levels consistent but they are harder on the body in general. Injectables are much more friendly.

I said in my last post "Any AAS used long enough can decrease libido".

[bignatt]

It would and it will if you use tbol for a prolonged period. I'm not Ross and I do not think tbol is God's gift to BBs. I like tbol but I don't think I'll be using it again for awhile. I'm going to stick with injectables like I have so far. Orals are great for keeping blood levels consistent but they are harder on the body in general. Injectables are much more friendly.

I said in my last post "Any AAS used long enough can decrease libido".

i just see everyone saying that tbol wont decrease the libido is there any data backing this or is it people just saying they havent had decreased libido

[bignatt]

ya i wont even bother with that shit i dont like what ive read personally

[Anabolic Man]

Chlorodehydromethyletestosterone is Oral-Turinabol. This comound is a modified testosterone molecule. It directly stimulates libido, and increases Free test levels by rapidly binding to SHBG.

[Seattle Junk]

Chlorodehydromethyletestosterone is Oral-Turinabol. This comound is a modified testosterone molecule. It directly stimulates libido, and increases Free test levels by rapidly binding to SHBG.

Stimulates libido? Hmmmm, I don't know about that. I don't believe it decreases libido in short cycles like jump starts. Now dbol can decrease libido and send your estrogen levels thru the roof. We all know how much Ross loves estrogen in his body.

This is what Ross is referring to:

Oral Turinabol also has the ability to bind to SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin), and thereby prevent it from attaching itself to free testosterone in the body, and this may actually allow more testosterone to become unbound and available in the body.

http://www.steroidsprofiles.com/steroid/info/83

[Anabolic Man]

TBOL is not the "BEST" steroid...simply, a very VERSATILE steroids, that can be used for any goal.

[Anabolic Man]

It stimulates libido--in both sexes too...

It's an inherent property of Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone.

[Property of Steroid.com]

Riddle me this:

If T-bol binds to SHBG, doesn't this mean there is less OT in the body...since it's bound to SHBG, isn't it biologically unavailable, just like bound testosterone?

SO...it seems that you are relying on the OT being bound up to SHBG, to free up some test, to increase your libido and get some gains? Isn't that kind of silly, when you can just take test?

[Nicky B]

Riddle me this:

If T-bol binds to SHBG, doesn't this mean there is less OT in the body...since it's bound to SHBG, isn't it biologically unavailable, just like bound testosterone?

SO...it seems that you are relying on the OT being bound up to SHBG, to free up some test, to increase your libido and get some gains? Isn't that kind of silly, when you can just take test?

Very nice hooker.

[Anabolic Man]

Almost all steroids bind to SHBG at different rates. The increase in Libido caused by Turinabol, is most likely due to this effect.

HOWEVER--"gains" experienced by TBOL are not simply from "free test", and since Turinabol increases LIBIDO without drastically influencing the HPTA, it makes sense to use it for such purposes. Most people incorporate TEST to increase sexual performance on cycle, but in doing so, limit their ability to maintain all gains POST cycle. (due to it's harsh effect on the HPTA)

[Seattle Junk]

Almost all steroids bind to SHBG at different rates. The increase in Libido caused by Turinabol, is most likely due to this effect.

HOWEVER--"gains" experienced by TBOL are not simply from "free test", and since Turinabol increases LIBIDO without drastically influencing the HPTA, it makes sense to use it for such purposes. Most people incorporate TEST to increase sexual performance on cycle, but in doing so, limit their ability to maintain all gains POST cycle. (due to it's harsh effect on the HPTA)

That's why experienced AAS users understand they must incorporate HCG in small amounts (ie 500ius eod) during their test cycle to shorten the upcoming PCT period.

Ross, have you started a cycle of test yet? You said you were going to....

[Anabolic Man]

Furthermore, when running a mild cutting cycle like Primo/Var, it makes more sense to add a compound that not only compliments the stack, but increases LIBIDO as well. Rather than adding test(which aromatizes heavily and is bad for cutting in MOST cases) simply add TBOL and you have a restored libido and no impact on HPTA or any other sides.

[Property of Steroid.com]

Furthermore, when running a mild cutting cycle like Primo/Var, it makes more sense to add a compound that not only compliments the stack, but increases LIBIDO as well. Rather than adding test(which aromatizes heavily and is bad for cutting in MOST cases) simply add TBOL and you have a restored libido and no impact on HPTA or any other sides.

Golly. According to the East German research (see attached file) on the compound, only 8% out of the thousands of athletes in their program experienced a change in Libido:



*Source for attachment: Franke and Berkendorf, Chart

[Seattle Junk]

Golly. According to the East German research (see attached file) on the compound, only 8% out of the thousands of athletes in their program experienced a change in Libido:



*Source for attachment: Franke and Berkendorf, Chart

Hook, also understand that this study includes females athletes as well. I bet that 8% is mostly compromised of women since we know test is a precursor to libido in both species. Even though tbol is an altered form of test (Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone) it can exhibit androgenic sides at higher amounts. Pronounced effects in females since their bodies are more responsive to androgens than men. A certain female could take 10mgs tbol ed and show sides. Would you agree?

[Property of Steroid.com]

Why not take proviron or winstrol instead? Both are cheaper. Winstrol has a very profound ability to bind to SHBG .2mg/kg will lower it by 50%), as does Proviron. Winstrol, in addition has a much higher anabolic rating than T-bol. Proviron, by the way, does not inhibit the HPTA at doses of 200mgs and under, per day.

[diezell]

lmao ross or hooker, i put my life savings on hooker!!!

[armwrestler22]

i'm doing a t-bol run right now, 60mg a day for 7 weeks. i'm halfway through week 3. My libido is the same as it's always been, strength and training endurince have gone up and i've put on about 5 pounds, so far it seems real good, but test prop had me doing a lot better at week 3.

[Seattle Junk]

i'm doing a t-bol run right now, 60mg a day for 7 weeks. i'm halfway through week 3. My libido is the same as it's always been, strength and training endurince have gone up and i've put on about 5 pounds, so far it seems real good, but test prop had me doing a lot better at week 3.

I just came off 6 weeks of tbol at 40mgs ed. Great thru weeks 1-4 but seemed to fizzle 4-6. 10lbs of good, dry muscle. No dbol joker gains. tbol is a great jump start to a cycle for sure.

Now I will be starting prop at 100mgs ed with my MR lr3 IGF-1 for the next month. Then it's PCT for 90 days, I need a break.

[bignatt]

Hooker thank you for chiming in

[rajs]

Wow,people seem to get getting some fairly solid gains with minimal sides from t-bol,sounds interesting.

[james21]

tbol is a very good compund

[100m champ]

bump!

[Seattle Junk]

Wow,people seem to get getting some fairly solid gains with minimal sides from t-bol,sounds interesting.

Tbol is one of the few orals that you can take by itself for a quick, effective 4-6 week cycle. It's good stuff, great as a jump starter.... I won't cycle it for awhile.... I just don't like taking orals too often.... I did that for experience and I don't regret it all, I just prefer injections for a lot of reasons.