Dont use AI's WITH Nolva!

[smmrsm2000]

Well I was kidding with you pinn but I dont see anything wrong with posting the study. All the info we can get is good and then we can decide what we personally want to do with it.

I suggest not running any anti e unless problems pop up until pct.

that's exactly what it says in the 'steroid profiles' section of this site....

[sp9]

Also keep in mind the date of the study (not really a study but someones conclusions about studies) which was not posted and was Dec. 2002. Soon to be 3.5 years old:

Forum (Genova). 2002;12(1):45-59.

This has the info posted in the original thread and link to several other studies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...ExternalSearch

[BG]

I was running Letro alone, sex drive fell off so I decides to 1/2 the dosage and add Nolva to it. Within two days my nipples started to hurt againand lumps seemed to get bigger, so I cut letro out totally and pain seems to be going away. Ill hit this thread again in a few days to let you know if the size of my lumps have changed any.My 2 cents on subject.

[ivrig]

weel of course, when you take like ari, there is no estro in your blood (almost), what`s the use of taking nolva then?

[stupidhippo]

well for one it acts as an estrogen agonist in some tissues which can be useful..

[ivrig]

yeah but with ari, the point is that there is NO estro there, so no need to block

whatever

[stupidhippo]

u didnt understand what I said.. the SERM acts AS estorgen in some tissues which can be beneficial..

[ODC0717]

Good post brutha!

[Swifto]

Well I was kidding with you pinn but I dont see anything wrong with posting the study. All the info we can get is good and then we can decide what we personally want to do with it.

I suggest not running any anti e unless problems pop up until pct.

Thank-you. This is exactly my thoughts and is what action I'll be taking.

If blood concentrations are compromised when using the 2 together. Why not, if you can, avoid it? Bumping the dose may be a solution, but isnt ideal for the cost side of things.

Agreed on the aromasin and what you stated as well.Couldn't have said it better myself

Outlaw..no confussion at all.Keep running your Nolv/ldex combo(or similar) and ignore the copy/paste nonsense.Some ppl try way to hard for recognition on this board,and it tends to backfire on them.

Nonsense? Ok....Study isnt perfect but I think we have established using the 2 (Letro/Nolva or Arimidex/Nolva) isnt optimal, which was the point of this thread. No recognition here. This thread was mearly meant to be an illistartion.

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

My cholesterol is questionable at the moment so I believe I'm going to switch to Nolva/Aromasin at 20/20/ed and run that from now all the way through PCT. Is that exceptable? Too much aromasin Pinn? Need to change it up for PCT? Of course I'm running Clomid w/ my PCT I just wanted to know about these 2 drugs... I have letro and l-dex too...

[BajanBastard]

IMHO it depends on the doses and the type of drugs you're running. Ok we already established that nolva significantly reduces 3rd gen A.Is blood concentrations, meaning running both together is NOT optimal, right? Well, no not really. As I said before other factors must be considered, most importantly the drugs being used.

First let’s say it's your standard testosterone, EQ cycle (500 and 400mg respectively). In this case the letro/nolva combo (.5-1mg/10-20mg) would be ok. If need be just adjust the letro or nolva dosage.

2nd: If it's a cycle with hefty amounts of test and 19-nors, especially tren, IMO the nolva should be dropped (because of its pro progestinic properties) and letro (because it’s anti-progestinic) should be used only.

For PCT I think both should be used with a gradual taper off the A.I.

[Swifto]

IMHO it depends on the doses and the type of drugs you're running. Ok we already established that nolva significantly reduces 3rd gen A.Is blood concentrations, meaning running both together is NOT optimal, right? Well, no not really. As I said before other factors must be considered, most importantly the drugs being used.

First let’s say it's your standard testosterone, EQ cycle (500 and 400mg respectively). In this case the letro/nolva combo (.5-1mg/10-20mg) would be ok. If need be just adjust the letro or nolva dosage.

2nd: If it's a cycle with hefty amounts of test and 19-nors, especially tren, IMO the nolva should be dropped (because of its pro progestinic properties) and letro (because it’s anti-progestinic) should be used only.

For PCT I think both should be used with a gradual taper off the A.I.

Thanks for that Big k.i.g, much appreciated.