Tired as hell on Equipoise

[ODC0717]

Are you saying 200mg a week is basically suppressing my natural test and not giving me any extra. If so does that mean that I need to take more of this or what. I had read multiple places people got results from 150 to 300 mg a week. So 200mg seemed ok to me.

Yes, I think the EQ is making you feel like shit. Not because of the EQ itself, but because your dose is so low, your basically shut down and your not supplementing your natural test for synthetic test, like prop or enth/cyp.

Personally I would...

Get some prop and enth. Stat the prop and enth ASAP. Run the prop for 4 weeks to let the enth build up, then stop the prop. You can either stop the EQ (which is what I would do), or you can keep going on your low dose. Or you can stop the EQ all together (that's not a bad idea, either).

You dose of EQ is shit. You'll soon find out if you stay on 200mg EW. IMO, 600mg would be minimum. 400mg would be a good starting point if you're really paranoid, but, from my personal experience, 600mg is the minimum for me.

1st cycle= Test enth or cyp 250mg E3D, 10-12 weeks. If you're concerned about sides then get some nolva or Ldex for estrogen related sides.

[1buffsob]

Stop the BS now! It's not doing anygood.

Fact is osu, if you like using your dick, and like having a feeling of well-being, you'll run test in every cycle. To rectify your sitiuation, either add some test, or drop the cycle. Nuff said.

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[Liftnainez]

You could care less about rectifying my situation. You would rather put me down and talk bout how bad my cycle is without ever asking about my diet or stats or anything.

Im not even going to answer..

[osu411yamaha]

So just by increasing the equi would help in boosting well above my natural test levels? Its gotta be test enan or test prop?

[Liftnainez]

as you can see I gave you the the same info that people are giving you now!!!!

[1buffsob]

Equipose is a test derivitive, not testosterone. Don't confuse the two just because they're both a steroid. You need to run test (whether it be enan, cyp, prop, etc). And, as stated, 200mg eq is a pathetic dose. Even if you are a beginner, I wouldn't go lower than 500mg ew.

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[osu411yamaha]

Well most of my resources came from on this site. I read multiple posts of people doing just equipoise cycles and having good gains on them. I realize now that I am not going enough. I will increase too 400mg next dose and consider some test.

[1buffsob]

"Consider some test."?!?!? I guess you really weren't looking for any advice. Good luck. We all have to learn the hard way.

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[osu411yamaha]

Yea i guess your way is the only way. All the people who did just equi and gained were wrong i guess.

[1buffsob]

Yea i guess your way is the only way. All the people who did just equi and gained were wrong i guess.

You'll find out. Good luck

1buffsob

[Liftnainez]

"Consider some test."?!?!? I guess you really weren't looking for any advice. Good luck. We all have to learn the hard way.

1buffsob

Do you see what I mean.. look at the way he acts and thanks people for giving him GOOD advice.. let him be.. i dont care

[jp_blois]

osu411yamaha - you yourself say you are new to this. So am I. So here is my advice for what it's worth. And that is... Take the others advice, especially if they have nearly 2000 posts to their name. They don't tell you to do something just for the hell of it, or to p1ss you off.

I'm not so sure why you are reluctant to add Testosterone to your cycle anyway. Just bite your tongue and say "ok guys, you're right, i should be running test" and people will be more willing to help you in a more friendly manner. No need to defend your initial newbie decision. We all make mistakes. And hopefully we learn from them too. Good luck bro

[ace ventura]

No way HPTA is shut down after two weeks of 200mg equipoise.

[aaronswt84]

osu, eq for a first cycle is not a bad idea in my opinion, Im actually about to start a cycle with eq, but its not my first. You could be tired for a few reasons, many of which probably have to do with working alot, and finals (im in school too, i know how it goes). Try sleeping more, and eating more. If that doesnt work then you could be very sensitive and 200mg of eq lowered your HPTA(your natural test level) which is making you tired. If thats the case id get some test prop, its a fast acting ester so it will get in your system quick and help you out. Plus its good for a first cycle, has low sides. The only bad thing is you take it everyday or eod. What do you have in mind for your PCT when you get off cycle?

[osu411yamaha]

i was thinking just clomid. Is there an optimal PCT combination for an equi only cycle?

[aaronswt84]

well no not really, there are many pct protocols its up to you which one you pick.

[hardgainer1]

ADD TEST! at least 100mg more per week than your EQ dose which should be at minimum 400mg per week, you will feel like a champ in no time.

[LatinoPR]

I started my first cycle 2 weeks ago tomorrow. Been sick the last week off it and have absolutely no energy. It is my first cycle and so far im just doing 200mg equipoise a week. Anyone else have any of the same probs. I am so damn tired I can barely get my ass to the gym. Anyone know if this will go away? Any good supplements for energy like noxplode or anything like that? Any help will be appreciated.

200mg/week,not enough,needs 600mg/week,and not good for second cycle.Go with T. enan,500mg/week and some deca or eq @ 600mg/week.

[STILUNEEK]

maybe add some test or just drop your current cycle.. im not sayingf EQ alone is the worst/waste but at 200mg even thats a waste..

i disagree the first time i ever did anyhting it was eq at 200 mg's a week for 12 weeks i gained about 12 pounds of quality muscle and got very vascular not too mention hard as shit and i kept alot of muscle after i stopped but thats just me everybody responds different

[got fina?]

I know a guy that fights roosters and he trains them with more then 200mg/w of EQ..

Read, read, read then try a new cycle....

[STILUNEEK]

Right Now Iam Taking 400mg's A Week Of Eq Been On For About 5 Weeks I Have Been Feeling Tired As Shit But Iam Throwing Some Test In This Week But Iam Also Not Eating Any Carbs

[fathommm]

I started my first cycle 2 weeks ago tomorrow. Been sick the last week off it and have absolutely no energy. It is my first cycle and so far im just doing 200mg equipoise a week. Anyone else have any of the same probs. I am so damn tired I can barely get my ass to the gym. Anyone know if this will go away? Any good supplements for energy like noxplode or anything like that? Any help will be appreciated.

I have experienced fatigue after a few weeks on parental winstrol. I stopped taking it for 5 days until fatigue went away then by trial and error I found the right dose and schedule that didn't produce fatigue. I was stubborn about it because winstrol makes me look wicked!! My initial dose was 7mg (normal to high end suggestion for women) every other day and I lowered it to 2mg (under the lowest suggestion) every 3 days. Theoretically it isn't enough to keep my blood levels stable but it IS working..........everyone's body is unique. I've gained 8lbs. lbm on this crazy low dosage.

I'm looking forward to trying EQ soon.......maybe the EQ is doing to you what the winstrol did to me.....hope this helps.

[tenpenny]

200 weekly seems like just enough to shut you down, 400+ is the way to go

[stacked566]

Do people not see that if 200 is shutting you down, 400 will still continue to shut you down, and that still is way too little. 600mg e/w of EQ is the cutoff usually. Granted some people get really good EQ that can be run @ 400 and get results, not the case here. Also, I am a senior in college and during finals I feel like an animal (i've been 'on' every time finals rolled around the past 2 semesters). You need testosterone, plain and simple. And yes 2 weeks is enough to shut you down. Look at deca, 1 shot can have you screaming deca dick 2 weeks later looking at a limp noodle. Get some test prop, run it for 4 weeks while also running test enanthate and waiting for it to stabilize. Stop fighting with these guys and trying to get away with just EQ, its obviously not for you, now you know.

[happy]

look everybody responds different to cycles,i took lots of different steroids
and had different side effects with all, i took sustanon 500 weekly and after six weeks got as tired as hell so i quit the cycle, its just a matter of finding what works for you.you can up the eq dose to 400 a week but i think it will just make you more tired, you can try adding test to it even 250 of test a week might help if this does not help quit the eq and in a months time try 500 of test a week injecting sundays and wednesdays and see if that works and keep anti e,ssss on hand.

[ready435]

hows your gear....that 200mg you think you have could still be less if its underdosed which is highly likely these days.....
you've obvioulsy got some eq....so def up the dose....and ride that if thats what 'you' want....
me.....would definately grab some prop and run it at the same dose..min 400mg a week...
good luck fella---time will tell, see how you made out in a couple months.

btw my 1st post... !

[mkrulic]

Well most of my resources came from on this site. I read multiple posts of people doing just equipoise cycles and having good gains on them. I realize now that I am not going enough. I will increase too 400mg next dose and consider some test.

could you point me to one of these. the last eq only post I saw was I guy asking how to cure his impotence problems.

[rhed]

I'm on eq and test right now and I'm flyn weights. And my wife doesn't even have rest at night.. aww.. must be the test..

[kuad]

keep it going!

[hugovsilva]

Agree with what was stated by most people here. EQ should be ran at 600mg a week fo a minimum of 12 weeks. You can add test or not your choice, I don't feel it is a must with EQ. EQ will not cause significant suppression at 200mg 2nd week opposite to deca. What brand of eq are u using? Eq feever is very common and may be what is putting you down. If you want to stick to eq only bump it to 600mg/ week and add some proviron to compensate the lack of test.

[big moe00]

hey man look i dont think lift is trying to put you down, i ran the eq and test and it was great and i did it for ten weeks that was one of my first cycles,what is your weight right now and what are you trying to get too

[The_crippler]

Man i have been reading and iam sad to see that some one starts taking roids without any planing. Well they all said it, bump the Eq to atleast 400mgs and take 25 mg proviron daily that might help. And also start looking at your diet!!!!.. low carbs can get you down. Keep us posted dude.

[kuad]

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[MFT81]

I have experienced fatigue after a few weeks on parental winstrol. I stopped taking it for 5 days until fatigue went away then by trial and error I found the right dose and schedule that didn't produce fatigue. I was stubborn about it because winstrol makes me look wicked!! My initial dose was 7mg (normal to high end suggestion for women) every other day and I lowered it to 2mg (under the lowest suggestion) every 3 days. Theoretically it isn't enough to keep my blood levels stable but it IS working..........everyone's body is unique. I've gained 8lbs. lbm on this crazy low dosage.

I'm looking forward to trying EQ soon.......maybe the EQ is doing to you what the winstrol did to me.....hope this helps.

Why do you keep bumping old threads?

[Angel of death]

And why the hell do you take steroids if youre a girl

[fathommm]

And why the hell do you take steroids if youre a girl

If you saw me naked you would tell me to keep doing what I'm doing...

[mkrulic]

pics, please post some pics.

[simm]

pics, please post some pics.

I'll 2nd that

[hugovsilva]

I'll 2nd that

I'll 3rd that.

[Civic0]

Maybe your gear is fake?