Best way to keep gains

[Stumbo]

read the post, it was his comment and his language how he replied, no need for it, now wind your neck in

[anaBROLIC]

you quoted me, my statement wasnt exactly a flame. i took his original statement about how you cannot keep your cycle gains over time unless you cycle again. the reason i said he will ask what pct stands for is because my opinion is with good knowledge and execution of PCT that his statement is completly wrong..

[oswaldosalcedo]

I dont want to sound like a dick, but this is ****ing rediculus. There isnt a single person in this thread who I dont like, or dont respect, but come on bro, if you are going to be a vet, set an example for others.

Its one thing if he is giving out bad/dangerous advise, but its another if he is just debating somthing, and lashes back when he gets flamed.


Hows this for not personal:

thanks Stumbo,
an objective and fair statement.

I add:

That's a very sad attitude. Granted, Ronnie and Jay couldn't keep there size without ancilleries. But who the hell here has the size of a pro BB?? Only about 6 come to my mind. But the average gym rat weighing 220lbs at 10%bf can easily maintain with the right diet and intense training. Genetics and age come into the equation, sure. But to come right out and say that all gains will eventually be lost, is just stupid.

Hell, we'll all be dead "in the long run".

1buffsob

they want to throw stones,and later to hide the hands.

[BOBBY D]

keeping gains is the most difficult.. the steroids help get u there along w/ diet. coming off & following pct & keep ur calories high will help maintain ur size, but ur strength w/ slightly fluctuate & decrease. i personally believe that u can never keep all ur size because ur bodies natural testosterone wont be able to maintain it.. so u will lose slightly.. diet is key

[1buffsob]

thanks Stumbo,
an objective and fair statement.

I add:




they want to throw stones,and later to hide the hands.

I'm not hiding anything. I believe the comment was stupid, and I stand by my opinion.

1buffsob

[fanatic]

Eat ALOT and don't over train. Still lift heavy, just limit your sets and reps.

[BajanBastard]

Oswaldosalcedo is an intelligent member and has posted great info in the past.

Anyway his statement is correct but was to broad. I'm 240lbs @ 5'11 13-15% BF and i've kept all on my AAS cycle gains (2) this tells me i'm not past my genetic limit. However i suspect when/if i reach 260+ with <10%BF the use of AAS will be NEEDED to maintain that condition.

lmao..thats funny..

he wont come and explain it. the next thing he will do is ask what does PCT stand for

so bright, mr anaBROLIC, .........lol..........
you are so bright, a lot intelligence excessive ! the super expert !

read:

Nova & Letro for PCT ??
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=195996


Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=201645

SO SO

[xmutation]

ossie is one of the most brilliant members in this forum, his knowledge goes from endocrinology, nutrition, pharmacology, physiology, kinesiology to minimal things like needles and syringes.
simply superb, an amalgamated knowledge, that way, sometimes he make daring or broad statements but i agree with the central idea, that beyond the genetic potential is very difficult to maintain the muscle gains.

[LX-1]

gh, mgf, igf, one of those. once you get past a certain point its pretty much impossible to keep gains off the sauce.