Ultimate Weight/Mass cycle?

[Tren Bull]

LMAO!

thats the official "im gonna turn my liver into swiss cheese" cycle

[G-1000]

Tren that cycle sucks and you know it. OK so you like d-bol right. Your dose it all over the place. 70 80 100 pick a dose and run it and keep the blood levels even. The other think is the prolong time on the 17 aa. You have 10 weeks worth at 200mg. That is going to put to much stress on the liver.

And why in the world would you run d-bol and winny at the same time. Those to compounds do two diff things. It is a waste to have the winny in it. You are not going to see any gains hardness or strength increases from it. So what is the point? If your going to stack pick compounds that complement each other.

Shit man you have the tren-a in that cycle at a low dose. Why not keep the liver and up the dose of tren. You would run the d-bol 75-mg day 1-4 or 5. Then the up tren at 75-100mg day. That would put a whole lot stress on teh body than the 10 week in a row of orals. At that point you wont to add winny go right a head. You would place it in week 8 -12. This would at lest give you 4 to 5 weeks off the d-bol before starting the winny. You would still be taking liver support and it now had a break for a few weeks.

so this is what you now have.

1-4or5 d-bol 50-75mg day
1-10 sust 250 eod = 875 week
1-10 tren 75-100mg day
8-12 winny 75-100mg day.

This cycle will give more over all gains with less stress on the live and over body.

[Tren Bull]

Tren that cycle sucks and you know it. OK so you like d-bol right. Your dose it all over the place. 70 80 100 pick a dose and run it and keep the blood levels even. The other think is the prolong time on the 17 aa. You have 10 weeks worth at 200mg. That is going to put to much stress on the liver.

And why in the world would you run d-bol and winny at the same time. Those to compounds do two diff things. It is a waste to have the winny in it. You are not going to see any gains hardness or strength increases from it. So what is the point? If your going to stack pick compounds that complement each other.

Shit man you have the tren-a in that cycle at a low dose. Why not keep the liver and up the dose of tren. You would run the d-bol 75-mg day 1-4 or 5. Then the up tren at 75-100mg day. That would put a whole lot stress on teh body than the 10 week in a row of orals. At that point you wont to add winny go right a head. You would place it in week 8 -12. This would at lest give you 4 to 5 weeks off the d-bol before starting the winny. You would still be taking liver support and it now had a break for a few weeks.

so this is what you now have.

1-4or5 d-bol 50-75mg day
1-10 sust 250 eod = 875 week
1-10 tren 75-100mg day
8-12 winny 75-100mg day.

This cycle will give more over all gains with less stress on the live and over body.

actually if i thought that cycle was no good, i wouldnt have posted it as something i want to run. the dbol dose is not all over the place, its increased steadily to keep the gains coming. btw, the highest i suggested was 100 mgs ed, not 200.

it kinda surprises me that you think running dbol and winni at the same time is a waste. dbol will bulk you up, and the winni will solidify the dbol gains, plus add to the insane strength increases.

[G-1000]

actually if i thought that cycle was no good, i wouldnt have posted it as something i want to run. the dbol dose is not all over the place, its increased steadily to keep the gains coming. btw, the highest i suggested was 100 mgs ed, not 200.

it kinda surprises me that you think running dbol and winni at the same time is a waste. dbol will bulk you up, and the winni will solidify the dbol gains, plus add to the insane strength increases.

#1 d-bol you gain will be the same or better with and even dose of like 75mg. I will be effective because it will be more efficient with even blood levels.

#2 Winny. That is not how it works. The d-bol is going to bloat the muscled to retain more water. Winny will dry out the muscle to give you that hard full look. So if you run the d-bol and bloat the muscle along with separating the fiber. Winny will not add new muscle fiber and dry it out to get that hard look.

[ShnouzedUp]

god i can't wait till my fall bulker... sooo much fun

[Tren Bull]

btw, the original question was stated as this

"If you guys could use any compounds for your cycle minues slin and HGH, what would your cycle look like?"

i wasnt suggesting that stack for anyone other than myself, cause to be totally honest, i dont give two sh_ts about my life or general well being. if you dont like that cycle, then dont run it.

[tullemus]

TAII and others..

yeah but the increase on progest receptors via deca is so low its not even comparable to tren

Do U and others have personal experience with that or do U just Quote it because of the 20% deca and 60% tren bla bla..

Iam asking because this is my 3 or 4 time with tren and last time I have same "bad" experience with tren dick and little lactate from nipples and I only get that with deca 600 mg and above and not controling my estrogen at all..

But when I control my estrogen with a little letro with tren I dont get that lactate but still tren dick even with test at 2grams and trenE900mg, my conklusion is that tren is not for me because I think that maybe with to little letro I have to high prolactin and when I try to control it as precise as possible with letro then I get lower prolactin but at the same to low estro and that decreases libido also...

So for me I think I can feel and see difference with tren and deca but the problem is I havent done 900 mg deca with controlling my estro, or done only 400 mg tren, so thats why I wanted to get it confimed from personal experience from others and not that Quote shit everytime I see to often..

[ryan9101]

damn I think my question got lost...

[taiboxa]

TAII and others..

Do U and others have personal experience with that or do U just Quote it because of the 20% deca and 60% tren bla bla..

Iam asking because this is my 3 or 4 time with tren and last time I have same "bad" experience with tren dick and little lactate from nipples and I only get that with deca 600 mg and above and not controling my estrogen at all..

But when I control my estrogen with a little letro with tren I dont get that lactate but still tren dick even with test at 2grams and trenE900mg, my conklusion is that tren is not for me because I think that maybe with to little letro I have to high prolactin and when I try to control it as precise as possible with letro then I get lower prolactin but at the same to low estro and that decreases libido also...

So for me I think I can feel and see difference with tren and deca but the problem is I havent done 900 mg deca with controlling my estro, or done only 400 mg tren, so thats why I wanted to get it confimed from personal experience from others and not that Quote shit everytime I see to often..

2 words bud "GET DOSTINIX"
u have the MOST SENSITIVE RECEPTERS EVER
i run more tren in a day then most do in a week
and im not even going to mention the test doses i have ran
and i never get gyno or lactating issues and i only run letro to dry me out so i kan get better perspective of where im really at as far as BF% during precomp cycles.
only gyno i have is in my right pec from puberty .. i went to a specialist at 15yrs old and he calld it a BREAST BUD and said it would go away

DAM FVCK TARD TOLD ME IT WOULD GO AWAY!!!! ><

[taiboxa]

are you serious bro?

that sucks

yeah people w/ very sensive progest receptrs will have this issue regardless unless they can find some QUALITY yet EXPENSIVE dostinex just be thankful u dont have this issue.. it makes AAS a nightmare unless ur cycles var only

[ryan9101]

ALright guys how does my cycle look now?

WEEKS:
1-4 Test Prop 100mg/day
1-5 Anadrol 100mg/day
1-16 Test E 750mg
1-15 Deca 400mg
1-15 EQ 600mg
11-18 Tbol 60mg/day

[G-1000]

ALright guys how does my cycle look now?

WEEKS:
1-4 Test Prop 100mg/day
1-5 Anadrol 100mg/day
1-16 Test E 750mg
1-15 Deca 400mg
1-15 EQ 600mg
11-18 Tbol 60mg/day

Now that is a nice cycle. Just have to keep and eye on your BP when on. If you would realy like to get crazy with it. You can add Npp 1-4 also to jump start the deca.

[BajanBastard]

yeah people w/ very sensive progest receptrs will have this issue regardless unless they can find some QUALITY yet EXPENSIVE dostinex just be thankful u dont have this issue.. it makes AAS a nightmare unless ur cycles var only

Ok I'll clear this shit up (again).

Progestins/progesterone cannot cause gyno alone. They increase the chances of getting gyno from estrogen. So control estrogen and you're G2G.

Cabergoline is used to threat elevated prolactin levels from AAS use. Two different hormones altogether.

[taiboxa]

Ok I'll clear this shit up (again).

Progestins/progesterone cannot cause gyno alone. They increase the chances of getting gyno from estrogen. So control estrogen and you're G2G.

Cabergoline is used to threat elevated prolactin levels from AAS use. Two different hormones altogether.

CHANGE ur AVATAR NOW! >< u CONFUSE DA SHYT OUTTA ME!
and btw i thought i was right?
estrogen hitting the progest receptors = milk?

[IBdmfkr]

TAII and others..

Do U and others have personal experience with that or do U just Quote it because of the 20% deca and 60% tren bla bla..

Iam asking because this is my 3 or 4 time with tren and last time I have same "bad" experience with tren dick and little lactate from nipples and I only get that with deca 600 mg and above and not controling my estrogen at all..

But when I control my estrogen with a little letro with tren I dont get that lactate but still tren dick even with test at 2grams and trenE900mg, my conklusion is that tren is not for me because I think that maybe with to little letro I have to high prolactin and when I try to control it as precise as possible with letro then I get lower prolactin but at the same to low estro and that decreases libido also...

So for me I think I can feel and see difference with tren and deca but the problem is I havent done 900 mg deca with controlling my estro, or done only 400 mg tren, so thats why I wanted to get it confimed from personal experience from others and not that Quote shit everytime I see to often..

Look into these two compounds, Bromocriptine/Cabergoline(dostinex).. the second being the stronger of the two. No more milky nipples.
But like Booz stated, eliminate the estrogen and you'll have no problems. (letrozole)

[taiboxa]

Look into these two compounds, Bromocriptine/Cabergoline(dostinex).. the second being the stronger of the two. No more milky nipples.
But like Booz stated, eliminate the estrogen and you'll have no problems. (letrozole)

yep LETRO PWNS estrogen and downgrades progest receptors best of both worlds!

[tullemus]

Let me rephrase it a little Iam not getting totally tren dick but I can feel that its not that good anymore I am getting horny but only maybe 1 time a week max and can get it up but there are deffnatly a decrease there..

[tullemus]

2 words bud "GET DOSTINIX"
u have the MOST SENSITIVE RECEPTERS EVER

U are probbably right because I bloat a little on tren to, even when I cut estro down, but if I swiched tren out with EQ and only test and eq I get much harder.. Or if I just leave tren out and do test only I am more vascular..

[IBdmfkr]

btw, im sure the judges are gonna love your gyno

This statement was totally uncalled for, Tai could say a lot about your pics as well but he won't because we're here to support each other, gsxxr said more about your cycle than tai anyhow.

You should edit all your posts and put them into one to make this thread half the length.. lmao!

I wouldn't run Dbol/winny at the same time btw. Everyone is different I guess.

[Tren Bull]

This statement was totally uncalled for, Tai could say a lot about your pics as well but he won't because we're here to support each other, gsxxr said more about your cycle than tai anyhow.

You should edit all your posts and put them into one to make this thread half the length.. lmao!

I wouldn't run Dbol/winny at the same time btw. Everyone is different I guess.

yea, i have a tendency to post excessivly.

as for tai, i am sorry about that comment. it was pretty rude.

fu_k it, il edit it out

I wouldn't run Dbol/winny at the same time btw. Everyone is different I guess.

yea there are definately differing opinions. i believe that its a good idea to combine strong mass builders with other types of aas that build solid and quality muscle.

Congrats! You just added yourself to the shit-list!

are you trying to say you dont like me?

That comment to Tai was hurtful, rude and unnecessary.

i totally agree. but i did apologize and edit it out

[G-1000]

This statement was totally uncalled for, Tai could say a lot about your pics as well but he won't because we're here to support each other, gsxxr said more about your cycle than tai anyhow.

You should edit all your posts and put them into one to make this thread half the length.. lmao!

I wouldn't run Dbol/winny at the same time btw. Everyone is different I guess.

Oh sure blame me.

[IBdmfkr]

Oh sure blame me.

Someone's gotta be the fall guy

[taiboxa]

omg u people make it sound like im FRAGILE LOL

[BajanBastard]

We know you're special Tai.

[D-Money]

I would run 4 compounds:

Test E
Tren
Masterone
Anadrol

I don't see why these compounds wouldn't work put some major size on you! Now are

[G-1000]

We know you're special Tai.

[*Narkissos*]

Honestly i've run winstrol longer than that.. but dbol AND winstrol (at those dosages amd duration)?

LMAO!!

[Tren Bull]

Honestly i've run winstrol longer than that.. but dbol AND winstrol (at those dosages amd duration)?

LMAO!!

actually, i agree. i didnt really know how liver toxic winni is until the other day.

well, id be swole off that... might need a new liver though

[Tren Bull]

i know injecting winni is supposed to be easier on the liver than taking it orally. do you think injecting dbol would work the same way?

[G-1000]

i know injecting winni is supposed to be easier on the liver than taking it orally. do you think injecting dbol would work the same way?

There was a test on this a ling time ago. It did show by injecting the 17aa that did not effect the liver as bad. But is was not a huge diffrince at all. So i can see a big diff with the d-bol being injected. Also if you inject d-bol you will have to do it 2x a day. the half life is much less then that of winny. In tab form d-bol is 4.5 to 5 hours were winny is 9. When injected winny is like 18-20 and d-bol is 10-12.

[Tren Bull]

There was a test on this a ling time ago. It did show by injecting the 17aa that did not effect the liver as bad. But is was not a huge diffrince at all. So i can see a big diff with the d-bol being injected. Also if you inject d-bol you will have to do it 2x a day. the half life is much less then that of winny. In tab form d-bol is 4.5 to 5 hours were winny is 9. When injected winny is like 18-20 and d-bol is 10-12.

hmm, i dont think im gonna be trying to inject dbol then. call me a pussy, but twice daily injections do not sound like fun

[gritt]

Holy crap.....some of you guys must be made of money!! Some of these cycles woudl cost thousands of bucks just to run one full cycle.......someone must have some nice cheap sources................

[taiboxa]

Holy crap.....some of you guys must be made of money!! Some of these cycles woudl cost thousands of bucks just to run one full cycle.......someone must have some nice cheap sources................

lol my cycle.. cost me 3 arms, 2 legs and an eye.. and that was just BUYING THE PWDRS FOR IT! LOL

[IBdmfkr]

The cycle Trenbull listed shouldn't cost more than hundred bucks or so if you use raw materials.

[Tren Bull]

The cycle Trenbull listed shouldn't cost more than hundred bucks or so if you use raw materials.

haha yea. gotta love that dirt cheap powder

[1buffsob]

The cycle Trenbull listed shouldn't cost more than hundred bucks or so if you use raw materials.

Yeah, powder gives you a lot more options when setting up a cycle. But since there's really not a limit "cost wise" of what to run and at what doses, you can get a little carried away sometimes. hehe.

Never thought running 3g of tren EW would be an option financially. If they ever start selling IGF and HGH in powder form........

BTW, tren....... your cycle sucks. F#ck orals.

1buffsob

[Tren Bull]

BTW, tren....... your cycle sucks. F#ck orals.

awww, i get no love around here

[Tren Bull]

Yeah, powder gives you a lot more options when setting up a cycle. But since there's really not a limit "cost wise" of what to run and at what doses, you can get a little carried away sometimes. hehe.

its a very beautiful thing isnt it?

my only regret is that i didn't start doing that sooner. i could have saved alot of money

[BajanBastard]

Hmmm the 'best' mass cycle IMO would be; Test prop, tren ace, 1-test and winny. Ha! Just nutted on myself

[ryan9101]

Hey B1thches this is my thread!! jk but how about this cycle?

Weeks:
1-5 Anadrol 100mg/day
1-4 Test Suspension 50mg twicie/day
1-14 Deca 400mg/day
1-15 EQ 600 mg/day
1-16 Test E 750mg/day
11-18 Tbol 60mg/day

This is the actual cycle I think I will run by the way....