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    Primo vs Masteron and dosages

    I was reading once again the steroid profiles forum and noticed Anthony Roberts equates the effects of Masteron with those of Primo at similar dosages.

    Now a typical dosage for Masteron is I gather (correct me if I am wrong) 400-800mg/week.
    However researching Primo threads I noticed a number of guys saying that they run primo at higher then 1.4g/week and the effects are magical.

    My questions are:

    1)Do mega doses of Primo really work?

    2)As Anthony says Masteron is very similar, is it possible to run mega doses of it instead or is it not comparable at higher dosages.

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    They are similar but they have differences.Primo will work on a very low calorie diet,the only AAS that can do this.The very best for cutting cycles.I find the best doses are around 1G-2G per week.

    Masteron is great,levels over 800mg have done nothing for me extra for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    They are similar but they have differences.Primo will work on a very low calorie diet,the only AAS that can do this.The very best for cutting cycles.I find the best doses are around 1G-2G per week.

    Masteron is great,levels over 800mg have done nothing for me extra for me.

    What kind of results do you see with the 1g-2g of primo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andros
    What kind of results do you see with the 1g-2g of primo?

    When your on an extreme cutter using that type of dose it made my physique crisp and carved in appearance in a way that no other drug can. It's the icing on the cake, so to speak. And while there are other drugs that can make you hard, Primobolan does it by drying the body out nicely without robbing the muscles of fullness (on a very low calories Diet).It`s art in motion cutting down to 5% with this safe pleasant AAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    When your on an extreme cutter using that type of dose it made my physique crisp and carved in appearance in a way that no other drug can. It's the icing on the cake, so to speak. And while there are other drugs that can make you hard, Primobolan does it by drying the body out nicely without robbing the muscles of fullness (on a very low calories Diet).It`s art in motion cutting down to 5% with this safe pleasant AAS.

    i agree with primo being very afective on a low cal.... but I have to agree with nark as well when lookintg tren and its effects on a low cal diet then the cost of primo Vs tren unless homebrewing.... even than running 1-2g of primo when 75mgED 525mg tren per week can yeild the same if not better effects .... But i know it's a personal thing and I myself am brain washed on sertin compounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by V_Vandetta
    i agree with primo being very afective on a low cal.... but I have to agree with nark as well when lookintg tren and its effects on a low cal diet then the cost of primo Vs tren unless homebrewing.... even than running 1-2g of primo when 75mgED 525mg tren per week can yeild the same if not better effects .... But i know it's a personal thing and I myself am brain washed on sertin compounds


    ``But i know it's a personal thing and I myself am brain washed on sertin compounds``

    Well put.

    Why isnt this guy a vet yet??

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    When your on an extreme cutter using that type of dose it made my physique crisp and carved in appearance in a way that no other drug can. It's the icing on the cake, so to speak. And while there are other drugs that can make you hard, Primobolan does it by drying the body out nicely without robbing the muscles of fullness (on a very low calories Diet).It`s art in motion cutting down to 5% with this safe pleasant AAS.

    Sounds awesome. What about in a quality mass cycle, is it worth running it for a clean bulk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andros
    Sounds awesome. What about in a quality mass cycle, is it worth running it for a clean bulk?
    Most defently. On a gram per week or higher, primo is a pure muscle builder. What ive noticed with Primo, the higher I run it, the more results I get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    They are similar but they have differences.Primo will work on a very low calorie diet,the only AAS that can do this.The very best for cutting cycles.I find the best doses are around 1G-2G per week.

    Masteron is great,levels over 800mg have done nothing for me extra for me.
    Doesn't tren work great on a low cal diet also? (Im just wondering because Im using it next cycle)

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    They are similar but they have differences.Primo will work on a very low calorie diet,the only AAS that can do this.
    re: bit underlined above

    Primo is not the 'only AAS that can do this'.

    Tren improves feed efficiency... meaning on a maintenance kcal diet you can gain LBM (to arguably different extents).. on a sub-maintenance diet you can retain LBM.

    etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    re: bit underlined above

    Primo is not the 'only AAS that can do this'.

    Tren improves feed efficiency... meaning on a maintenance kcal diet you can gain LBM (to arguably different extents).. on a sub-maintenance diet you can retain LBM.

    etc.

    Check out the primo depot profile here.It states only AAS that can do this.But I do agree with your post.Tren is very Diverse.

    http://www.zupplements.com/steroids/...d_profiles.htm
    Last edited by goose; 10-16-2006 at 08:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    Check out the primo depot profile here.It states only AAS that can do this.But I do agree with your post.Tren is very Diverse.

    http://www.zupplements.com/steroids/...d_profiles.htm
    forgett those profiles its been written by people that dont have evidence for 90% of the stuff they write ,i dont see a reason why only primo would work on a low calory diet and if this is the case which a highly doubt then stenbolone will also work because its almost identical to primo,but like i said i havent seen any evidence to support that claim and no studys have been made that i know of so i dont understand where these people got this from?!
    And many of these profiles are out of date or they state things that are pure speculation like that Proviron works as an anti-estrogen again there have never been any studys done on the subject so they are only speculating that it MAY work or it PROBOBLY works because of da da da so i suggest that when people read things take it with a pinch of salt..
    i´ll try Masteron soon for the first time i alsohave some primo but not enough but Masteron(homebrew)i have about 70ml of Masteron Propionate and 30ml Enanthate so what dose do you recomend ?
    and i have about 12cycles under my belt and im 29 years old, i heard that there shouldnt be a difference in effect between 600 and 800mg but i dont know if this is true i was planning on running masteron/NPP/Test.
    First 2weeks both Test propp and Test E and then continue with Test E only and at the end of the cycle switch to Test P and for PCT:Clomid/nolva/aromasin and HMG/HCG 2 weeks before pct
    Last edited by Titan1; 10-17-2006 at 08:35 AM.

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    I have never used Primo, but I am on my 3rd cycle of Masteron. I started out at a low dose (300 mg/week) to test my reaction to this DHT compound. Even at this low dose, I have never felt so hard. Usually about 3 days after the first shot, I start to swell and my workouts can get downright ferocious........Man i love Mast!

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    Yes skipp, actually all steroids seem to somewhat absorb better with lower calories, there is obviously, pros/cons to this.

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    although i don't have any personal exp with primo, my buddy does and 1g ew did wonders for his cutting cycle. i have used masteron b4 and with a low bf at 600mg ew i was looking shredded.

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    Sounds awesome. What about in a quality mass cycle, is it worth running it for a clean bulk?
    In most primobolan profiles youll find that none recommend it for bulking purposes, however im taking Goose's advice and running it as a bulker as we speak...i will post results after its all said and done....CD

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    the higher I run it, the more results I get.
    Lol thats awesome Vitor!!!

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    Now that I have tried both, I would say that Primo and Masteron are very similar in action. They both bind to the AR-recepter, more strongly than Testosterone actually, so they stack best with AAS that have non-AR meditaded activity.

    I would say Masteron is a bit more androgenic than Primo, so if sides like hairloss is a concern, primo is probaly safer. Both of them are an greate addition to any stack if youre cutting or bulking imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Now that I have tried both, I would say that Primo and Masteron are very similar in action. They both bind to the AR-recepter, more strongly than Testosterone actually, so they stack best with AAS that have non-AR meditaded activity.

    I would say Masteron is a bit more androgenic than Primo, so if sides like hairloss is a concern, primo is probaly safer. Both of them are an greate addition to any stack if youre cutting or bulking imo.

    What can I say..My mate vitor has beaten me to the punch.I have been talking to vitor about primo suspension,you can get this powder.It`s going to be another level.

    I like Masteron for bulking,only done it once.Masteron. Although Masteron is not highly active in muscle tissue, the 2 alkylation present on drostanolone considerably intensifies its anabolic effect. It can therefore be used somewhat effectively as bulking agent, providing a consistent gain of high quality muscle mass.Bottom line two of the best things I have in my bag

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    What can I say..My mate vitor has beaten me to the punch.I have been talking to vitor about primo suspension,you can get this powder.It`s going to be another level.

    I like Masteron for bulking,only done it once.Masteron. Although Masteron is not highly active in muscle tissue, the 2 alkylation present on drostanolone considerably intensifies its anabolic effect. It can therefore be used somewhat effectively as bulking agent, providing a consistent gain of high quality muscle mass.Bottom line two of the best things I have in my bag
    Do you think the Primo suspension will be painful? I'm interested as it would be a good bit cheaper then using meth enth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard01
    Do you think the Primo suspension will be painful? I'm interested as it would be a good bit cheaper then using meth enth.

    You would have to shoot it twice per day.If you brew it correctly with the right oil and BA,it should be OK.Saying this I dont know anyone who has used it yet.It`s a very new powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    You would have to shoot it twice per day.If you brew it correctly with the right oil and BA,it should be OK.Saying this I dont know anyone who has used it yet.It`s a very new powder.
    Have you tried meth ace? If so, was it painful at all? I'm gonna get some primo, but can't decide which ester to get if any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    What can I say..My mate vitor has beaten me to the punch.I have been talking to vitor about primo suspension,you can get this powder.It`s going to be another level.

    I like Masteron for bulking,only done it once.Masteron. Although Masteron is not highly active in muscle tissue, the 2 alkylation present on drostanolone considerably intensifies its anabolic effect. It can therefore be used somewhat effectively as bulking agent, providing a consistent gain of high quality muscle mass.Bottom line two of the best things I have in my bag

    Primo suspension sounds potent, would you have to shoot twice a day though?

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    I'm trying Primo next cycle (homebrew) at around 600mg/wk. May increase the dose as I go on.

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    My favorite 2 compounds

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    800mg Primo 800mg Masteron

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    Low dose of Masteron and Prop did wonders for me while coming into my contest, I preserved most of my LBM and stayed extremely hard/vascular.

    Haven't run Primo more than 600mg/wk, which wasn't impressive so I'll wait to comment on it when I've run it at 2g/wk for an extended period.

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    how was the effect on the hairline? I ran it for 6 weeks and I got thinner up top out front....So think Ill try primo next cycle...
    For me low dose masteron was kinda weak--i guess i was expecting more but anyway it was just ok, i did notice a slight increase in hairloss, nothing crazy though..wont run it again since i think primo is gonna be my cutting choice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDominate
    For me low dose masteron was kinda weak--i guess i was expecting more but anyway it was just ok, i did notice a slight increase in hairloss, nothing crazy though..wont run it again since i think primo is gonna be my cutting choice...
    me too... been hearing some good things about primo lately.......

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    Would it be possible to use the primo esters (ace and enanthate)
    Certainly..ive seen a couple guys that carry it....

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    lol @ Arnold comment..

    How can you compare an average guy to a multiple Olympia winner or anything he did?

    He would've grown off of eating dogshit 3times/day, let along a Primo/dbol cycle.

    I just don't see how anything Arnold or Ronnie or Jay has anything to do with any of us or how we could put it to use.

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    I am including Materon in my next cycle. I was planning on doing it EOD. This is my third cycle and I am planning on running it like so:

    (23 YO, 6'0, 192 lbs. 13.5% BF)

    Weeks 1-4
    Drol - 50 MG ED (Increase it to 100 only if necessary)
    Test E - 250 mg Every third day

    Weeks 5-10
    Test E- 250 mg Every third day
    Masteron 100 mg EOD or 50 mg ED

    Weeks 11-12
    Masteron 100 mg EOD or 50 mg ED

    Nolvadex 20 mg ED throughout cycle

    Proper PCT

    The bold part is where I need some advise. Which do you think will work better for me. Also, how does the rest of the cycle look?

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    The bold part is where I need some advise. Which do you think will work better for me. Also, how does the rest of the cycle look?
    This would probably fit better on a new post man....

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    I would love to try all this but primo is so expensive. Is everyone independently wealthy or what?

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    Its not that bad, ill be running 2g a wk pretty soon, just get the powder and mix it yourself...that helps cut costs

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