Which of the three is the fastest fat burner??

[*Narkissos*]

That is nice to hear, so you would just recommend using a good clean low carb diet with high intensity training?

No i'm not a low-carb proponent.

The lowest my carbs may go at any point (and not for an extended time either: maybe a day) is @ 150 gr

Low-carb and high intensity volume training and low-carb dieting aren't compatible.

Carbs are necessary for volume training and the maintenance of hight intensity under otherwise restrictive conditions...

The volume and high intensity are necessary to stimulate and maintain a high metabolic rate.. and high caloric expenditure.

No ECA or other stuff?

Optional additions in the latter stages.

Never at the beginning.

The base of a fat-burning regime is diet and training.. not supplements

Supplements.. are meant to supplement.

Do you not loose alot of muscles when you cut without roids?

Not to any significant degree.

[TADOLFI]

Optional additions in the latter stages...
The base of a fat-burning regime is diet and training.. not supplements

About sums it up for me.
Sups tweak what I'm all ready doing.

But everyone has their own ways of dealing with losing fat.

[TinTin78]

No i'm not a low-carb proponent.

The lowest my carbs may go at any point (and not for an extended time either: maybe a day) is @ 150 gr

Low-carb and high intensity volume training and low-carb dieting aren't compatible.

Carbs are necessary for volume training and the maintenance of hight intensity under otherwise restrictive conditions...

The volume and high intensity are necessary to stimulate and maintain a high metabolic rate.. and high caloric expenditure.


Optional additions in the latter stages.

Never at the beginning.

The base of a fat-burning regime is diet and training.. not supplements

Supplements.. are meant to supplement.



Not to any significant degree.

Thank's for the replys Nark, and you look like a monster in that pic and I mean that in a good way, really nice!

I will try to cut a little differently this year and maybe go slower, i lost way to much fullness in my muscles last spring. Maybe I can Pm you and get some advice if you don't mind?

[kimag2]

i was on clen 2 week on and 2 weeks off for 3 month and lost 32lbs with 30minuts of cardio a day

[*Narkissos*]

Thank's for the replys Nark, and you look like a monster in that pic and I mean that in a good way, really nice!

I will try to cut a little differently this year and maybe go slower, i lost way to much fullness in my muscles last spring. Maybe I can Pm you and get some advice if you don't mind?

Holla.. i'll see what i can do

[moranitotongano]

I beg to differ...

There is a big difference between 5-7 miles and 5-7 km...

I've been running 3-5k/ed since I was in high school and it's been over a decade...my bf% also rarely exceeds 10% as well.

I have found that as I've added more muscular weight, that cardio has become a bit more taxing, but due to my conditioning and excellent health, I still manage to get it in...
IMHO, cardio and diet are paramount to mainting a low bf%.

-ShrpSkn

I agree. But if your really looking for a fast fix I hear weightloss PEPTIDE FRAGMENT 177-191 works well.

[G-1000]

Shin splints...ahhhh, I remember the days...these come from lack of conditioning...as your body gets used to running on a regular basis, you will find that the shin splints will become less of a factor and will actually no longer be noticed...but it requires focus and dedication to maintain a cardio plan that involves such amount of running that shin splints are no longer a factor...the last time I experienced the agony of shin splints was back in high school...I vividly remember them days..oh the agony, what a bitch the splints are, but if you stick with the plan, they will be a thing of the past, trust me.

-ShrpSkn

I dont like running that much to go throw all that truble.

[shrpskn]

I agree. But if your really looking for a fast fix I hear weightloss PEPTIDE FRAGMENT 177-191 works well.

I don't need a fast fix...maybe you do, but I'm already there.

[vermin]

i care to disagree... only thing that helps with my splints is dropping to around 240 lbs.. at current weight of 265 it takes 2 runs and thats it.. have to do my cardio with machines... at 240 the problem was managable..

Yeah, and your stride matters quite a bit, too. I have moderate femoral eversion and pretty extreme external tibial torsion (my toes naturally point at about the 2:00-2:30 and 9:30-10:00 positions and it is painful for my toes to point forward). I got a running coach who was able to help with my stride to reduce the shin spints, but even he pretty much concluded I should stick to walking. My luck to grow up when they were deciding that leg braces were not necessary for kids.

[Manpretty]

I used t4 (duration) + t3 + slin (4 weeks) + igf-1 (10 days) + cardio + diet + HIT volume training...in my last contest prep. Lost 40 lbs of fat


Nark

thats nuts man 40lbs OF FAT???????
i looked at your pict and you cant be much more than 10-12% offseason....how much do you weight dude it would have to be like 350-400lbs for that to make sence

[dogfight]

Lemme see.

I've been doing this for 9 years (7 competing)... so i gotta back track.

In my earlier contest preps: High-intensity training; diet (no cardio); ECA (ripped fuel 2) in the latter stages of prep.

For my later preps: High-intensity high volume training; diet (no cardio); posing; ECAY (ripped fuel + yohimbe)

For two preps (in one year...a while back) i used clen + diet (no cardio) + HIT volume training... and then never again.

I used t3 (21 days: 25 mcgs) + insulin in one prep... + diet + cardio + green tea extract (thermogenic support) + HIT volume training... dropped 40 lbs of fat

I used t4 (duration) + t3 + slin (4 weeks) + igf-1 (10 days) + cardio + diet + HIT volume training...in my last contest prep. Lost 40 lbs of fat


As you'll see... diet + training is the only common factor.

No steroids in the mix either.

Diet and training are the only 'true' and essential fat burning compounds... even to a greater degree than cardio.

Nark

ok im sorry an im sure you have experince but,( HIT volume trainning) that sounds like Michael Jackson you know white but black. true H.I.T tranning has nothing to do with volume.

[king6]

Clen is some wild stuff. I did 80mcg the other day, split it up 20 in the morning and 20 in the afternoon, I woke up that night drenched in sweat. I think I will only do it for 2 weeks, the sides kind of suck.

[*Narkissos*]

ok im sorry an im sure you have experince but,( HIT volume trainning) that sounds like Michael Jackson you know white but black. true H.I.T tranning has nothing to do with volume.

Where above did you see me state that i'm a proponent of 'H.I.T.'?

HIT is simply an acronym for High intensity training.

Did i say i use the 'HIT program'?

No.

What i clearly said is that i use high intensity.. and high volume.

FYI: GVT is high intensity.. and it's high volume.

Go look up the defination of high intensity with regard to weight-training.

We'll wait.

[*Narkissos*]

Where above did you see me state that i'm a proponent of 'H.I.T.'?

HIT is simply an acronym for High intensity training.

^^

Acronym Expanded:

For my later preps: High-intensity high volume training; diet (no cardio); posing; ECAY (ripped fuel + yohimbe)

Acronym Condensed: HIT volume training.

...'clearer' for you?

[dogfight]

Where above did you see me state that i'm a proponent of 'H.I.T.'?

HIT is simply an acronym for High intensity training.

Did i say i use the 'HIT program'?

No.

What i clearly said is that i use high intensity.. and high volume.

FYI: GVT is high intensity.. and it's high volume.

Go look up the defination of high intensity with regard to weight-training.

We'll wait.

ya i know my shit an im sure you do too but when you said HIT in caps i thought you might have been confused. GVT i would have understood easier. but its cool as long as your growin i wouldnt care how you trained. an ill grow when i get back so its all good bro sorry bout the misread. later

[*Narkissos*]

^^ np.

By the way.. i don't do GVT either.. i just used it as an example of another High-intensity system.

What i do i'd call NIVT:

Nark-Intensity volume training

Those that watch it think it's pretty insane

Nark