Dbol only

[spywizard]

I can feel the love in this thread..

I want to thank everyone for staying mature and not reverting to name calling in this thread thus far..

that is all

[DecimaMAS]

I can feel the love in this thread..

I want to thank everyone for staying mature and not reverting to name calling in this thread thus far..

that is all

Give it a few minutes. It's still early. ;-)

[Crest]

just be a man and do it, i did the dbol cycle and it was gay.... i did my 1st injection 1.5 weeks ago, im looking forward to the next one

[Manpretty]

^^^^ the problem with your statments was they were generalized and false....we want to hear what your experience was but your blanket statments about oral was wrong

[BOUNCER 01]

Sorry people. Its just that my experience with orals really pi**ed me off not to mention others who have taken the stuff and they are experienced users, who gave similar feedbacks.

[Crest]

^^^^ the problem with your statments was they were generalized and false....we want to hear what your experience was but your blanket statments about oral was wrong

true true, it wasnt a bad cycle i put on just under a stone (14 pounds i think) i kept around 7 of this due to water ret, not as much as some people but im putting that down to diet not being as in check as it should of been, i didnt get any sides tho apart from my scrotum tightening up a bit @ 40 mg per day lol so im using at as kick start on a test cycle @ 50 mg a day and my strength is up nicely and i feel pumperd after the gym ......................... i dont have much experience with AS but id recomend dbol as a kickstart

[DHew]

can anyone comment on the shutdown of hpta from test vs. the shutdown of hpta from dbol? is dbol an easier pct? ie: do you get back to homeostasis faster??

[Swifto]

can anyone comment on the shutdown of hpta from test vs. the shutdown of hpta from dbol? is dbol an easier pct? ie: do you get back to homeostasis faster??

This tends to vary. If used long enough and at a high enouhg dosage, "shutdown", or hypogonadism will occur.

I'm yet to see BW posted stating "shutdown" has occurred from Dbol. At any dose.

The only study we have to go on used 100mg/ED for 6 weeks and inhibited LH by 80%. It did not cause HPTA "shutdown" and a considerable dosage was used for 6 weeks. Most do not use 100mg/ED Dbol in cycles, though I have seen user's state they do.

This greatly varies from person to person. I have seen staated "shutdown" did occur from some Dbol only cycles. Though, BW was not posted.

Orals are pointless! The gains are hard to maintain and they f**k your livers up. Injections are a lot safer and are easy to keep if you've got a good planned diet that is.

Orals arnt pointless by any means. There often used to kickstart cycles and can be used effectively to cycles without the use of injectables.

I als believe the hypatoxicity is VERY overated. I used 80mg/ED Tbol for around 11-12 weeks with a very minimal raise in liver values. Not to mention drinking a few weekends.

[getdowntoit]

I will admit that orals can give you bad indigestion, a serious trainer will switch to injectables anyway in time but orals is an ideal way for steroid novices to start.

[DHew]

hey swifto, what do you mean by BW? And i thought you didnt drink? maybe im getting you confused with someone else...

[Swifto]

hey swifto, what do you mean by BW? And i thought you didnt drink? maybe im getting you confused with someone else...

I drink occassionally.

BW = Bloodwork.

[dhriscerr]

First off I have no experience with Dbol, but A.R. has alot of good information on it and has alot of good things to say about it, he also did a Dbol only cycle and because of that cycle alone he said he has a special place in his heart. Here's his profile on it for those of you that jump right into the forum without reading all the goodies that this place has to offer.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199829

[BOUNCER 01]

Yeh orals are great for kick starting a cycle, but i was talking about orals only cycle. It can't be good for you in the long run compared to an injectable cycle.

[DHew]

do you guys recommend taking 10mg nolva ED along with the dbol to help estrogen related prboelms? planning on 30mg dbol ED. should get here today...

[dhriscerr]

My buddy wants to take a cycle and is scared of Injecting, so I think he will be a good canidate for it, because if I dont help him out then he will just get it from someone else and get bunk info so atleast i can have him run Nolva and clomid.

[Swifto]

If I were to do a Dbol only cycle, which I probably will in the future, I'd run it at a low dose for a number of weeks. Something like:

wk 1-8 Dbol 15-25mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50-75mg/ED
*Arimidex/Nolva on hand

BW done week 7 to determine how suppressive the Dbol has been and what PCT compounds to include.

PCT with:

wk 1-3 HCG 250-500ius/ED (Weekends off)
wk 1-4 Nolva 20mg/ED
wk 1-Cruise Aromasin 12.5mg/ED
wk 1-5 Proviron 50mg/ED

BW done a further 6-7 weeks on the Aromasin cruise to see what my serum T levels are.

[DHew]

Why the proviron during cycle also, and not only on pct?

[K.Biz]

Manpretty im with you. I agrre a test/dbol cycle is definetly the way to go, for better results...BUT a dbol only cycle can be beneficial with PROPER and let me stress PROPER, diet and PCT.

It seems most people who bash dbol only cycles are past users of that cycle. You constently hear "i lost all my gains, i was a rookie" which implies no PCT, which would be the reason most people lost there gains. im confident with a very good pct and a proper diet.. a dbol only cycle can be run sucessfully