Real/Fake Norma's?

**Dizz28** · 02-11-2007, 03:02 PM

i don't think he said either way....which is good because he probably would have made it a point to let me know if they were fake....lol

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 04:31 PM

i have the exact same stuff but how do i see the watermark which is on the price sticker?? i tried but cant really see it but i might be doin it wrong!

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 04:36 PM

dizz? can u turn the tops on ure norma's because i think some 1 told me that the tops should not be able to be turned (silver) top

**MichaelCC** · 02-11-2007, 04:58 PM

"Dizz28" your norma is fake - and I hope JD will tell you the same after he'll read my thread ... I don't want to write the same things again, so here is thread, where you can find your "norma" (the same L and E like yours) and my opinion on this one ...
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=283366

**juicy_brucy** · 02-11-2007, 05:00 PM

Dizz28. now that I look at your bottles, I notice that the old style lables have new expiry dates. I think they are fake too. sorry. just noticed that after MichaelCC posted.

**MichaelCC** · 02-11-2007, 05:04 PM

thanx JB - anyone else want to change his opinion

?

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:05 PM

so they are fake?

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:05 PM

i have seen guys who have used same stuff but gained alot

**juicy_brucy** · 02-11-2007, 05:06 PM

Yes. fake.

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:08 PM

geez,i kno guys who have used this stuff exactly the same lot numbers and expiry dates,in my gym and they got results

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:10 PM

but how can it be fake? the fakers spent so much money to get the holgrams and they are so stupid they are gonna make 1 mistake on a number or letter!

**juicy_brucy** · 02-11-2007, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by MichaelCC

thanx JB - anyone else want to change his opinion

?

ahh. I never actually said they were real... I said if judge hasn't said they were fake by now, then they may be real... I never looked at the pic close up till now.

i only told him to UV light it... lol.

These look nothing like what is in my hand with the same expiry date... MichaelCC is the man!

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:13 PM

some 1 put me back in the freezer (demolition man)

**MichaelCC** · 02-11-2007, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by kwakisaki

i have seen guys who have used same stuff but gained alot

one question - did you see them (at your own eyes), how they apply EXACTLY this norma? if not, you cannot tell it this way - one thing is what they told you and second thing is what they realy used ... it's old bussiness trick how to sell fake stuff.
But most possible way is, that in this norma should be some enanthate or propionat (for example 100mg), which are very cheap testosterons and its results can be visible very soon, so fakers add this substances to their stuff mostly ....

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:17 PM

i have had my friend injecting the same normas,actually i was injecting him for the 1st 3 week and now he is like arnold lol

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:18 PM

he's huge and defined so... i dont know

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

that doesn' t mean anything. It would be like a bottle of Tylenol being made today and having a shelf like of 3 years, it sitting on the shelf for 2 years the finally gets bought. It would only have a year left on the expiration date.....see what I'm saying??

The shelf life doesn't really say anything about it being real or fake....unless the it's something rediculous like a 10 year shelf life or something.

Anyway, expiration dates aren't very accurate anyway. An expiration date is supposed to be at what point the medication retains >90% of it's activity in ideal conditions. Studies have been done and found that certain medications will retain thier activity for greater than 15 years after it's "expiration" date....just is going to be a little weaker because of degeneration..

Dizz

?????

**MichaelCC** · 02-11-2007, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by kwakisaki

i have had my friend injecting the same normas,actually i was injecting him for the 1st 3 week and now he is like arnold lol

OK bro - your are simply obstinate, so use it

But one thing is for sure - it's NOT REAL 200mg nandrolone decanoate. You can tell me what you want, but this one is true.
hmmmm - now I'm thinking, why some people are asking for help .... even if they know everything already ...

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:27 PM

no,michael i am not saying your wrong u have more knowlege than me im just telling like a brief so personally i wouldnt use this if its fake? but ill tell u wat michael these look so real!

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:32 PM

michael can u turn the tops (silver) on your real one's??? cuz some 1 told me that u should'nt be able to turn the tops

**MichaelCC** · 02-11-2007, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by kwakisaki

no,michael i am not saying your wrong u have more knowlege than me im just telling like a brief so personally i wouldnt use this if its fake? but ill tell u wat michael these look so real!

you are right - it looks so really, but anyway it's just almost perfect looking fake. I don't need to get it tested or something like that - for me it's most important it's not real 200mg nandrolone decanoate. I don't care what is inside.

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:38 PM

what about the tops can u turn them on the real 1s the (silver)

**MichaelCC** · 02-11-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by kwakisaki

michael can u turn the tops (silver) on your real one's??? cuz some 1 told me that u should'nt be able to turn the tops

... of course you can turn it (silver tops + rubber together, not separately)... also in the case of real one. No need to be extra strong. You know, it's just black rubber and glass - it's not "steel-concrete"

I think "turning test" is not the right way how to spot fake

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:49 PM

so u can turn them?

**MichaelCC** · 02-11-2007, 05:52 PM

yes - it's not problem ...

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:55 PM

michael do u live in uk? cuz i need to talk about.....

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 05:56 PM

??????????????????????????

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 06:12 PM

michael

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 02-11-2007, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by juicy_brucy

The newer bottles do. yes. you should see a faint hologram. very hard to fake the new lables. at least I have heard of no "exact" fakes...

thats correct.....michaelCC has good pics of this hologram label posted..

**kwakisaki** · 02-11-2007, 06:29 PM

yes these are fake

**Dizz28** · 02-11-2007, 09:12 PM

Wow, they spent a lot of money making the labels for them...if they are fakes.

The one's that I posted have labels with the hologram in them too.

**robmase** · 02-12-2007, 10:27 AM

DUDE!! The bottle has Athens clearly written on label. Athens is in Greece, not Poland.....Im not 100% sure but, going off your numbers you have a 3 year expiration date, and I think Deca has a 2 year expiration time. The 05 means it was made in 2005, and your expiration date is 2008....FAKE!

**Dizz28** · 02-12-2007, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by robmase

DUDE!! The bottle has Athens clearly written on label. Athens is in Greece, not Poland.....Im not 100% sure but, going off your numbers you have a 3 year expiration date, and I think Deca has a 2 year expiration time. The 05 means it was made in 2005, and your expiration date is 2008....FAKE!

WOW! thanks for reiterating what 5 other people said about the same two subjects!

Cut and paste works well too

**juicy_brucy** · 02-12-2007, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

Cut and paste works well too

LMAO.

**Dizz28** · 02-12-2007, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by juicy_brucy

LMAO.

It's amazing the stupidity people post just to put thier .02$ in...or .01$ ....or worthless comments?? Whatever the case.

I'm gonna have mine tested....

**judge_dread** · 02-12-2007, 04:15 PM

Dizz like the other guys told u you do have counterfeit Normas...Juicy's Normas are real and MCC knows the stuff too ,I just saw the pics of your vials, sorry for your loss
Maybe they have something inside but this gear wasn't made in Norma Hellas factories

**Dizz28** · 02-12-2007, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by judge_dread

Dizz like the other guys told u you do have counterfeit Normas...Juicy's Normas are real and MCC knows the stuff too ,I just saw the pics of your vials, sorry for your loss
Maybe they have something inside but this gear wasn't made in Norma Hellas factories

Ahh, win some - lose some. Especially in this game it's easy to lose some.

It's mostly my fault for trying to get one of the most counterfitted vials on the market. Should have stuck with an UGL or a Mexi.

F' it, didn't pay that much anyway so I'll take that loss.

Thanks guys for your help

respect,
Dizz

**MichaelCC** · 02-12-2007, 05:29 PM

try to get your money back Dizz ... if your supplier is honest man, he can do it ...

**juicy_brucy** · 02-12-2007, 05:31 PM

I have lost lots in the past... Don't sweat it. It happens.
Like MichaelCC said, if your suplier is a good person, you will get a refund.

**Dizz28** · 02-12-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by juicy_brucy

I have lost lots in the past... Don't sweat it. It happens.
Like MichaelCC said, if your suplier is a good person, you will get a refund.

Not too worried about it because I didn't pay all that much for them. Can't say prices on this board but it's not gonna kill my wallet.

I do want to get them tested first though because, like Judge said, it might have some gear in it and I also want to be certain it's completely worthless before confronting my source.

Thanks for all you guy's help.

looks like I gotta "aquire" some different version now.......ahhhhhhhh

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