Breaking the myth of dextrose and malto

[naturalsux]

Gatorade doesn't push nutrients it just contains electrolytes. If you're into heavy cardio or activities that generate a lot of sweating then your body is losing the electrolytes needed for muscle contraction. Mainly the Na and Cl ions excreted by sweat glands. Thats why the nutrition label for gatorade has all that sodium and probably even potassium. (idk i don't drink the shit either)

Anyways, those aren't nutrients, they're minerals.

the nutrients i m talking about are creatine and glutamine, that i add in.
the Gatorade(dextrose) is meant to spike insulin levels to drive amino acids and glucose into muscles.
all this is found in the flex march issue, seven best meals for growth all day, page 158. it also says that gatorade is better than oatmeal for PWO.

[novastepp]

eating in itself will stop cortisol. stopping cortisol is one of the first reasons people used dex. but any food will stop it. "spiking" insulin levels using dex?? you can't even compare the response to a spike if you use exo. insulin. what the hell are people discussing here? which is better? and replacing glycogen will take you around 24 hours to achieve anyway. so "filling" it with dex isn't going to happen. a lot of the shit advice that is passed around here is all "bro" talk. i have an outrageous idea for anyone who is still bitching about this concept to try...


do what works.


and if you think that your PWO offering is going to shape the way you look/grow/feel then why even bother planning the rest of your diet? its a cumulative effect. many people here will bitch about whey PWO or just a meal. dex or oats. but the people who are growing and changing on a routine basis are those who do what works best for them INDIVIDUALLY!

****ing people never listen to their own body and i'm out.

[GrowingMuscle]

the nutrients i m talking about are creatine and glutamine, that i add in.
the Gatorade is meant to act just like dextrose, by spiking insulin levels.
all this is found in the flex march issue, seven best meals for growth all day, page 158. it also says that gatorade is better than oatmeal for PWO.

Flex march issue page 158

[naturalsux]

Flex march issue page 158

whats so funny, the guy that said it has a Phd. i guess flex paid him to say that huh?

[Surfstud18]

What would cyto gainer or true mass be labled as? Would that be in the dex?

[chest6]

cytogainer is dextrose I believe..

[mavsluva]

Most of the carbs offered by Cytogainer is derived from maltodextrin. It's what they call their proprietary "complex carb solution".

[Surfstud18]

dang that's nuts i just take it cause it has 56grams of protein and i use my true mass at night or musclemilk colligate

[Dude-Man]

The more supplements i use and the less real healthy food i eat as a result, the shittier i feel. I think that this maxim holds true for just about everyone.

[DNoMac]

i wonder what the consensus is on having a little bit of dex + oats? say 15g of dex and the rest of your PWO carbs coming from oats. id assume that 15g of dex would spike insulin levels a bit without decreasing insulin sensitivity. just some thoughts.

Thats what I've been doing for a while. I've experimented with just dextrose, just low GI carbs (oats), and a combo. Haven't noticed a difference, and have been getting consistent gains. I feel a bit of dex could cause the spike and perhaps increase nutrition uptake and blunt cortisol, while the oats will keep 'stable' levels of blood sugar.