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    ill be following this one. goodluck! you look less than 14% to me.

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    not from the front!

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    ah cmon u blurred the lotion out lol

    Tren should help ya out..we'll see.

    Just please don't fvck with DNP during your PCT again...or I'll say I told ya so again

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    how many lbs of water should i expect with prop/tren a ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haro3
    how many lbs of water should i expect with prop/tren a ?
    I wouldn't think any. I had no water weight gain with prop, and tren is suppose yield all dry gains, and masteron should dry you out as well.

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    you will still gain some water im sure....i cant imagine u wouldnt gain any....

    and didnt u run the prop after u had started ur cycle so any water u were gonna gain u had probably already gained from the test e..

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    so far no real sides...have had some headaches atleast one per day..nothing horrible but still there but my bp isnt high at all 135/80 which is actually kinda low for me....so that doesnt explain it...shot my right delt last night lil sore today it feels like someone hit me in the shoulder like a deep bruise..i still dont know if that "prop pain" or if thats just from having 2cc's of oil in there...either way i can live with it

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    had my first night of night sweats and slight insomnia....i fell asleep fine but i woke up to piss and couldnt go back to sleep regardless how tired i was and i keept waking up wet from sweat.....not horrible nothing like dnp but still sweaty and now i feel nasty i need a damn shower lol

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    also i have switched to ED injects for now to see if i handle the pain better with 1cc as opposed to 2cc....might make a difference (hopefully)

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    It's been 10 days since you started, I assume you are starting to feel the test and the tren a little? I felt the prop after about 5 days, but I still had some test e in me. Not sure what kind of results you get from masteron, I guess it is kinda like winny, but puts on more muscle.

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    oh yea im horny as hell now and i had a lil bit of night sweats last night and some insomnia and i remembered a dream very vividly....but im only 10 days in like u said which makes me wonder if the tren would already be hittin me..? and i've put on like 5lbs which makes me believe im holding water because i havent upped my diet at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haro3
    oh yea im horny as hell now and i had a lil bit of night sweats last night and some insomnia and i remembered a dream very vividly....but im only 10 days in like u said which makes me wonder if the tren would already be hittin me..? and i've put on like 5lbs which makes me believe im holding water because i havent upped my diet at all
    From what I have read about tren, the diet is not as critical as it is with test. It is suppose to put on quality muscle without requiring more calories, that is why the farmers use it on the cattle, because the cows get bigger while eating the same amount. So the 5 lbs could be muscle.

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    yep same here.. My left arm is bigger...bi peak is better etc. My right arm literally has 0 peak

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    nothing major yet but i am still having pain with 1cc of prop/tren i must just not like prop oh well i can deal with it, i still have the headaches but no increase in bp and also if u dont keep ur water intake HIHG u will piss some DARKKKKKKk yellow.......did notice that. and im fatigued easier, nap more, and maybe a lil more lethargic in class and what not....but still only 1.5 weeks in

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    How are your stregnth gains and pumps in the gym?

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    feel pumped all the time and strength i havent noticed a whole lot but i would say it is increasing....i sweat alot tho..and i dont sweat much at all usually

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    Damn! Now I have cycle envy. I hate PCT, I feel small. How come you are running Masteron during weeks 6-12? I thought you were suppose to run it for the first 10 weeks? Or are you using it for cutting purposes?

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    i dunno just what i decided to do

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    injectition pain is still there and this last one really hurts......i've been putting a heating pad to them after im done to help "disperse" the oil dunno if it helps any...

    strength is noticeable nothing crazy but its going up

    hunger is definately noticeable im hungry all the time dunno if thats a characteristic of tren but it sux when ur on around 2800 cals

    and the only sides aside from inject pain have been night sweats they are progressively getting worse and does anyone know does ur sweat smell worse when on this stuff? cuz normally even if i sweat i dont smell bad but man i woke up this morning and it was BAD! lol no big deal jus curious

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    pic taken yesterday 210lbs ish

    since i didnt have a bottle of lotion on the dresser i figured i'd draw one in just so chest has something to make fun of me about

    any my quads usually show a lil better but they were hella sore so i couldnt flex them at all

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    shot 500iu HCG today and will continue to do so throughout the cycle

    shot left delt two days ago and its pretty red/sore/swolen this stuff is really more of a pain then anything! skins real tight and red i'll start putting a heating pad to it tonight to try and get the oil to dissapate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haro3
    shot 500iu HCG today and will continue to do so throughout the cycle
    bah..dont do it throughout bish...

    No one listens to me


    HAHA Look at this guy..hes got lotion on his desk..who does that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    bah..dont do it throughout bish...

    No one listens to me


    HAHA Look at this guy..hes got lotion on his desk..who does that?
    i'll cycle it chillax biotch

    ya you like my "cartoon" lotion? thats all for u baby

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    looking good brother, its not your sweat that smells its the bacteria on your skin, you prob need to shower more haha

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    lol yeah...Im glad you were thinking of me.

    It would have been better if the picture was of me and u

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    lol that lotion thing is funny. ANYWAY,
    dude haro ur legs are GREAT. ur upper body is too i just nevr saw the wheelies. what do u do to the the teardrop so big? or whatever that muscles called, the inside of ur legs by the knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69
    lol that lotion thing is funny. ANYWAY,
    dude haro ur legs are GREAT. ur upper body is too i just nevr saw the wheelies. what do u do to the the teardrop so big? or whatever that muscles called, the inside of ur legs by the knees.
    lol dude my legs suck i hardly train them cuz of my knee injury. but when i do its extensions/light hacks and leg presses squats are hard on me. but im learning that form takes alot of my knee pain out so im getting better at squats.

    plus i rode bmx for 10 years so that probably helped with the tear drop"

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    Any signs of increased aggression Haro? I'm about 5 days into a test-e/tren-e cycle and I'm hoping that I dont get any increased aggression. I never have in the past but Tren is a whole different animal I hear.

    How are the nights sweats? Have you experienced any insomnia other than the one night? I was thinking I might pick up a perscripton for something to help me sleep if I get insomnia, Valium/Xanax maybe. My doc is pretty cool about that type of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerdan
    Any signs of increased aggression Haro? I'm about 5 days into a test-e/tren-e cycle and I'm hoping that I dont get any increased aggression. I never have in the past but Tren is a whole different animal I hear.

    How are the nights sweats? Have you experienced any insomnia other than the one night? I was thinking I might pick up a perscripton for something to help me sleep if I get insomnia, Valium/Xanax maybe.
    no no more insomnia really its more like u wake up from sweating then ur just uncomfortable and its hard to go back to sleep. night sweats arent as bad but i just turned my ac on so that helps as well

    agression see i always thought that was in ur head kinda like the bigger you got the cockier you got but honestly i have noticed being a lil short tempered lately like im usually VERY passive with my gf (who is incredibly voicestress) i usually just roll my eyes and say ok whatever but lately i've been snapping back i have noticed that so maybe it does actually increase agression...i mean its not bad its not like i walk across campus and look for a reason to start a fight by anymeans just short fused. lil shit bothers me more than it should. ie curling in the squat rack i said something to someone yesterday about it usually i wouldnt etc. but i've also been a lil bitter because of the ddamn injection pains and the headaches i've gotten. so im sure it all adds up.

    but i have noticed pretty sick pumps especially if i hit a drop set at the end man its crazy, today was the first day i really really noticed any strength gains but i will say my endurance has gone to HELL. especially noticeable when im trying to get a piece and i cant go for more than a minute without breathing like i just smoked a pack and ran a mile lol its bad!

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    glad to see this journal. im a week into sust, tren cycle and dont know what to expect. glad your a couple weeks ahead of me.. havnt felt anything really yet just a bit stronger.

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    hmmm so the blend is painful hmm..

    Maybe I wont blend

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    Nice log Haro, hope the sides dont get too bad...

    CD

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    felt like u smoked a pack and ran a mile...tren kicked in buddy!

    someone once said, a chain smoker would beat a tren user in endurance anyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69
    felt like u smoked a pack and ran a mile...tren kicked in buddy!

    someone once said, a chain smoker would beat a tren user in endurance anyday.
    yea comin from someone that used to smoke i told my buddy the other day "it felt like i smoked a pack of KOOLS then ran" lol if anyone used to smoke they know how brutal those bastards are

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    Update Haro? Also, you thinking about that custom title yet? Maybe:

    Haro3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerdan
    Update Haro? Also, you thinking about that custom title yet? Maybe:

    Haro3
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    LOL! prick, haha thats kinda funny


    umm nothing special to report injections are getting less painful i dunno if im gettin used to the esters or what but i didnt have near the pain or swellin on the last two. i shot my glute for the 2nd time EVR last night and i remember why i HATE shooting glutes but i'll live. I have noticed i get incredibly fatigued really easily and sleep is becoming more and more restless. i sleep and i stay in bed all night i dont wake up 100% but i just dont feel like i sleep very deep and i wake up in the morning just tired/worn out feeling and drag major ass for a while. which is all sides of tren so i know its workin. vascularity is better than 3 weeks ago for sure no weight gain really pumps are getting intense arms felt HUGE after only a couple sets last night.

    morning weight is about 207-209 i think i started a lb or two lower than that so nothing crazy by anymeans. i'll keep posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haro3
    LOL! prick, haha thats kinda funny


    umm nothing special to report injections are getting less painful i dunno if im gettin used to the esters or what but i didnt have near the pain or swellin on the last two. i shot my glute for the 2nd time EVR last night and i remember why i HATE shooting glutes but i'll live. I have noticed i get incredibly fatigued really easily and sleep is becoming more and more restless. i sleep and i stay in bed all night i dont wake up 100% but i just dont feel like i sleep very deep and i wake up in the morning just tired/worn out feeling and drag major ass for a while. which is all sides of tren so i know its workin. vascularity is better than 3 weeks ago for sure no weight gain really pumps are getting intense arms felt HUGE after only a couple sets last night.

    morning weight is about 207-209 i think i started a lb or two lower than that so nothing crazy by anymeans. i'll keep posting
    You probably wont see crazy weight gains, because you will probably be burning fat as you are putting on muscle, and the fat loss will increase when you start the masteron.

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    I have one lat that looks substantially bigger than the other from a rear double-bi shot. I'm not sure why, one seems longer and the other says kind of balled up and sticks out a little further. If you figure out a way to even em out, let me know.

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    same prob as me one flares out and the other just seems longer and tapers in more gradually towards my waste.....

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    My lats look just like that. I wonder if its just how I flex them or whether they are really different shapes. Looks like its the same side too.
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