School sends home obesity notices with students, parent upset

[Logan13]

That doesnt change what I said. I didnt know you were for more govt control logan..

there is nothing about gov't control here. It has to do with inept parents being made aware of what they are doing to their kids.

[Kratos]

Promoting awareness has nothing to do with control. After you get the notice you can get back to force feeding your little piglet if you please.

[RANA]

He's only for more government control when it pertains to a minority, like fat people or gays.

Fat people and gays are NOT minorities!
Being fat is a choice, as for being gay (I know it's not a choice) well it's not like you are walking down the street and people say hey look at that gay guy. Now if you are black or Hispanic then it shows and people make judgements.

[AandF6969]

He's only for more government control when it pertains to a minority, like fat people or gays.

Aren't people that are normal weight vs. obese/overweight the minority now?

BTW, I'm obese.

[RANA]

Aren't people that are normal weight vs. obese/overweight the minority now?

BTW, I'm obese.

You could be right

[Logan13]

Fat people and gays are NOT minorities!
Being fat is a choice, as for being gay (I know it's not a choice) well it's not like you are walking down the street and people say hey look at that gay guy. Now if you are black or Hispanic then it shows and people make judgements.

Well said.......

[RANA]

Well said.......

Thanks, I have read numerous comments you have posted in the past, I think you and agree about 99% of the issues

[scriptfactory]

Fat people and gays are NOT minorities!
Being fat is a choice, as for being gay (I know it's not a choice) well it's not like you are walking down the street and people say hey look at that gay guy. Now if you are black or Hispanic then it shows and people make judgements.

I was using minority in it's strictest sense. The smaller of two (or more) parts making up a whole. Choice has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Plus, it was a joke. ;-)

[scriptfactory]

Aren't people that are normal weight vs. obese/overweight the minority now?

BTW, I'm obese.

There are still more people that are average weight than there people who fit the term "obese/overweight" but I don't think that will last for long.

I'm obese, too... :-(

[scriptfactory]

Thanks, I have read numerous comments you have posted in the past, I think you and agree about 99% of the issues

That isn't a good thing...

No, just playing. Logan is basically a good person. The only problem is, and I don't think he has realized this, that there is nothing basic about being a good person.

[Logan13]

That isn't a good thing...

No, just playing. Logan is basically a good person. The only problem is, and I don't think he has realized this, that there is nothing basic about being a good person.

Believe me, I will not judge a person as good or otherwise simply because we do/do not agree on something. Sometimes my tone is harsh, but sometimes it needs to be...........
BTW, BMI does not determine who is obese, at least not most in this forum. My BMI is 30.2............

[RANA]

Believe me, I will not judge a person as good or otherwise simply because we do/do not agree on something. Sometimes my tone is harsh, but sometimes it needs to be...........
BTW, BMI does not determine who is obese, at least not most in this forum. My BMI is 30.2............

The BMI is crap, hell I would be obese by BMI standards, but when I look in the mirror I realize I am a sexy bastard.
The reason I agree w/ Logan is his conservative views

[IronReload04]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M5Xm5RYTRY

george carlin's take on obesity

good shit

[AandF6969]

BMI does not determine who is obese, at least not most in this forum. My BMI is 30.2............

I just think its funny that when you hear numbers like "30% of Americans are obese" we're all in that category... lol

[STONES2]

not telling what they can or can't do. Just letting them know that we will not pay for their chosen lifestyle......If you have a problem with that, you are free to give twice as much yourself. Something tells me that you do not pay out much of anything Tock.

This I agree with, you ate you pay.

2stones

[Shane35aa]

Some parents won't do the right things for their kids if it involves discipline. I would lay down money that when her "big Boned Cupcake" was upset with the note she probably took her right to Mickey D's and let her chow down on 4 or 5 Happy meals. "Now Its better Cupcake"

[Dukkit]

obesity is getting out of control though. i agree with the school. USA as a whole is a bunch of slobs. we need to be forced to eat better and exercise far more. im not perfect and no one else is. but i at least try to watch my diet and get the blood pumping. i understand that a certain percentage of the problem is genetics. but we can all improve ourselves.

[RA]

So Im the only one here, besides tock, who thinks the school shouldnt get into my business and tell me what to do?

[Dukkit]

desperate times call for desperate measures.

[RA]

Sounds like something the Germans said about Hitler.

desperate times call for desperate measures.

[Dukkit]

haha. im amazed you made that obvious connection. exactly what i was thinking.

[RA]

Amazed huh...

haha. im amazed you made that obvious connection. exactly what i was thinking.

[scriptfactory]

So Im the only one here, besides tock, who thinks the school shouldnt get into my business and tell me what to do?

Even though I've taken on more socialistic ideals since living in Europe, I have to agree with you 100%. I raise my children healthy, they will never have weight problems. Even if I didn't, it wouldn't matter. The government doesn't have the right to tell me what to dress, what to say, how I should look, how I should eat as long as I am not abusing or harming another person. It isn't their right.

The problem is, some parents take this to an extreme. I've seen parents do what's amounts to force feeding their children. Stuffing sugars and saturated fats into their kids until they end up becoming disgusting adults. Where do we draw the line? They are killing their children prematurely.

[RA]

Im the same with my children. They will never have a weight problem. Ive always been hesitant to give power to the government because once you give it, you lose that freedom forever.

I agree that it would be nice if everyone took there childrens diet seriously and maybe the some type of free class on exercise and diet would be the key.

I dont know where to draw the line but BMI isnt the ticket. Everyone knows thats a bs number.

I suppose if the kid was so fat that he/she had a hard time functioning in school there should be some intervention.

Even though I've taken on more socialistic ideals since living in Europe, I have to agree with you 100%. I raise my children healthy, they will never have weight problems. Even if I didn't, it wouldn't matter. The government doesn't have the right to tell me what to dress, what to say, how I should look, how I should eat as long as I am not abusing or harming another person. It isn't their right.

The problem is, some parents take this to an extreme. I've seen parents do what's amounts to force feeding their children. Stuffing sugars and saturated fats into their kids until they end up becoming disgusting adults. Where do we draw the line? They are killing their children prematurely.

[gixxerboy1]

So Im the only one here, besides tock, who thinks the school shouldnt get into my business and tell me what to do?

But they school isn't telling the parent to do anything. They are notified about health problems. If the school said you must do something or there would be a consequences then i would agree. But just making a parent aware shouldn't be an issue

[Roidal]

But they school isn't telling the parent to do anything. They are notified about health problems. If the school said you must do something or there would be a consequences then i would agree. But just making a parent aware shouldn't be an issue

1 bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.

[AandF6969]

When you're feeding your kid shit and damaging their health and social life, its borderline child abuse. If the kid showed up with bruises, the school would get involved... if the kid complained he was soooo hungry cuz the parents didn't feed him, the school would get involved. Whats different about feeding your kid McDonalds every day and letting them balloon up to a whale?

[RA]

You go be a sheep and let the govt dictate what you and your children must adhere to. I want no part of that.

When you're feeding your kid shit and damaging their health and social life, its borderline child abuse. If the kid showed up with bruises, the school would get involved... if the kid complained he was soooo hungry cuz the parents didn't feed him, the school would get involved. Whats different about feeding your kid McDonalds every day and letting them balloon up to a whale?

[RA]

Who are you again?

haha. im amazed you made that obvious connection. exactly what i was thinking.

[spywizard]

obesity is getting out of control though. i agree with the school. USA as a whole is a bunch of slobs. we need to be forced to eat better and exercise far more. im not perfect and no one else is. but i at least try to watch my diet and get the blood pumping. i understand that a certain percentage of the problem is genetics. but we can all improve ourselves.

so you are ok with the government saying what you eat, what you will not smoke, drink, and what person you will marry??

that's the next step..

after all, if a person has a genetic marker that will pass to the next generation, we should sterilize them right??

[Dukkit]

The school is just stating simple facts. (such as height, weight and BMI.) Then bringing those facts to the attention of a few parents who may not realize how unhealthy their children are. They are not kicking them out of school. They are not making fun of them like a group of immature school children. The government is not coming into the schools or god forbid the homes of these kids and forcing carrots and nonfat milk down these their throats. They are trying to help the kids. May not be a kosher way to go about it. But if it gets the job done. Why complain??

[Logan13]

So Im the only one here, besides tock, who thinks the school shouldnt get into my business and tell me what to do?

never thought that I'd see the day............

[RA]

Me either

never thought that I'd see the day............