here you go came accross this useing the search button
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=290432
here you go came accross this useing the search button
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=290432
that thread is brutalOriginally Posted by ChiTownTommy
Undecided-You have been here for awhile, and you seem to be asking pretty noob questions. Time to read more...
Amorphic- You are natural, are you not? You are giving advice as if you have run these compounds yourself..?
doesnt change the fact i know what im talking aboutOriginally Posted by football2007
secondly, just because i am not a user right now, doesnt mean i dont speak to others and get information from them regarding their results and experiences.
my advice is based on research and communication with others, 2 of the things most people here fail to bother doing themselves
lastly, i could easily lie about what compounds i have taken, and no one would think otherwise, so forgive me for being honest and if you have a problem with the advice i give or the things i say, feel free to correct me or state your own opinion.
He obviously knows what he is talking about, some knowledge is easy to absorb through research. I've never ran a deca only or a tren only cycle for instance, but I've read enough from those that have to know it usually isn't a good idea. I've never injected aas into my veins, but I know enough to discourage it if someone suggests it. I agree that experience is in some cases the best teacher, but if all users took the time to develop the level of knowledge base Amorphic has before they start using, the community as a whole would surely be better informed than it currently is.
very true....amorphic has had nothing but good informative posts on here...i'm glad someone actually does research and states their knowledge...keep up the good work amorphic and ima******ger
Another unconclusive Dbol only thread...this way Dbol will soon become a legal supplement IMO...
Yeah, and you'll be shut down even harder using test for 10-12 weeks as well.
Your second statement is vauge. They will shut you down to varying degrees. I've used EQ as a base without test and recover great. I just came off Test E 500mg/wk and EQ 400mg/wk and I'm shut down much harder "frantically" trying to recover on nolva and aromasin. And my sex drive sucked while on cycle.
Peace Out.
Last edited by luckylou; 11-26-2007 at 10:25 AM.
Thats somewhat what I was trying to ask...The study that I read, from this website, stated that over a a 6 week period, of a d-bol only cycle, at 100 mgs per day, the participants experienced, "decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it´s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it´s original value, and FSH went down about a third"
These findings seem to contradict what many of you are stating, I'm not saying either is correct, im just trying to have someone explain it to me...
I just got the idea that you think exogenous testosterone does not shut down your endogenous production.
I saw your comment where you said that exogenous chems will suppress endogenous test production....but I still get the above idea...
Me personally, I wouldnt do dbol only just because I never seem to gain quality LBM on it anyway. Testosterone seems to add mass better than dbol does. Matter of fact, I don't see shit with dbol at all.
I just don't see why many wanna run dbol only when they can run dbol and test, other than the fact they are afraid of needles....
Oral only cycles can be ran with success, but I wouldnt really wanna run one that just seems to add 100% bloat without much noticable difference in mass. Most say that their strength goes "through the roof" but its all individual.
Anyway, I wasn't tryin to bust on you, it was just an observation.
For the record, you do know a good amt for never having shot it into your body.
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