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    Diff a christian here bro

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    i am...i have the one verse from the bible in my signature on my ribs, and will get the other shortly....went to catholic school for 14 years, lived beside the church for 7 years....

    hate church and what it stands for, but love and believe in God...

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    I am a follower of God as well...

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    I am not Christian (I am Buddhist), so please excuse me for posting in your thread. :P

    You sound like a very religious person, so I was wondering, isn't Bodybuilding part of the seven deadly sins? I.e. Vanity (and possibly greed).

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    What if you are bodybuilding to be healthy and strong, and you don't care what you look like? Is that a sin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicy_brucy View Post
    What if you are bodybuilding to be healthy and strong, and you don't care what you look like? Is that a sin?
    No sir.
    To be healthy is obviously not a sin.
    To be strong can possibly be a sin, depends on the reasons for becoming strong I guess. If you want to become strong to impress other people and/or to raise your status in society then it's a sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameuser View Post
    No sir.
    To be healthy is obviously not a sin.
    To be strong can possibly be a sin, depends on the reasons for becoming strong I guess. If you want to become strong to impress other people and/or to raise your status in society then it's a sin.
    You are 100% right, and I agree with you. It depends on ones motives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicy_brucy View Post
    You are 100% right, and I agree with you. It depends on ones motives.
    Yes, but I think the majority of bodybuilders have (at least some) sinful motives, including me. I think it's hard/next-to-impossible to be sinless and body build.

    Generally bodybuilding starts off with envy (envy to be someone else), and then to achieve your goal you have to eat excessively (gluttony/greed), once you have reached a certain desirable state you have pride (vanity) about your body.

    PS Not trying to start a flame, just saying what I think is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameuser View Post
    Yes, but I think the majority of bodybuilders have (at least some) sinful motives, including me. I think it's hard/next-to-impossible to be sinless and body build.

    Generally bodybuilding starts off with envy (envy to be someone else), and then to achieve your goal you have to eat excessively (gluttony/greed), once you have reached a certain desirable state you have pride (vanity) about your body.

    PS Not trying to start a flame, just saying what I think is true.
    It's impossible to be sinless in your entire life period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameuser View Post
    No sir.
    To be healthy is obviously not a sin.
    To be strong can possibly be a sin, depends on the reasons for becoming strong I guess. If you want to become strong to impress other people and/or to raise your status in society then it's a sin.
    What if you do it because you believe in Darwinism and Natural Selection. I am a christian Of the Catholic Faith (went to Cath grade school, wore a tie and had religion classes), but I think that one day there will be an event that will cause the downfall of our society (i.e Romans, Greeks) and those that have desirable traits to live long enough to reproduce Will. All the weak and stupid shall die and those fit to survive will.

    (I dont really think about this too strongly, but if that day does come, I want to be there to build the next Civilizations. Oh, and i love when people stare at me and my body gets me ***** my face wouldn't. And yes I wear condoms)

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    agnostic.

    (sorry, i had to)

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    I guarantee this thread will:

    a) get locked down;
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    c) start an argument; and
    d) result in a suspension or banning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAR View Post
    I guarantee this thread will:

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    d) result in a suspension or banning.
    lol don't they all....

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    I renounced as a Catholic over 12 years ago. One of the many great things I have done along the way. Now I know what spirituality is.

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    Christian here

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    Quote Originally Posted by boots555 View Post
    Please dont respond unless you are a Christian Body Builder.
    This is an open forum anyone may respond

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    Quote Originally Posted by boots555 View Post
    Are any Bodybuilders Christians here? Please dont respond unless you are a Christian Body Builder.
    Yeah but you asked a question. Are you only wanting "yes" answers?

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    I've been a competitive bodybuilder for the last 8 of the 10 years I've been working out.

    I'm a Christian.

    I compete onstage against myself... Not against a bunch of guys. Their presence there is irrelevant.

    It is about me yes... but it isn't vanity.

    It is about self improvement and self-actualization.

    I compete against myself like I've said: the 'me' who i was the last time I stepped on stage.. v.s. the me I am now.

    Sure, bodybuilding can be a vain exploit... but what can't?

    Even humanitarian/missionary work can be a vain exploit.

    Being able to say 'I help the poor' gets some people's rocks off.


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    Exactly, Nark! One may be a generous, kind, loving and "Christian" (to go the whole ten yards) and be a bodybuilder, just as one may be all those things and a wealthy heiress or capitalist, or aristocrat, or communist... If bodybuilding helps bring you into the family of mankind, and doesn't lock you up and make all men your potential rivals and enemies, it has helped you realize your full humanity and is a good thing. Sin is, by its very nature, competitive. A sinful nature doesn't care about being rich, or beautiful, or muscular... the "joy" of sin comes in being MORE rich, or MORE beautiful, or MORE muscular than everybody else... and using that fact not to build up your own humanity, but rather to pull other people down, to make them feel "less than", worthless, unloved.

    It is the spirit in which we perform our actions that they are judged.

    Riches, good health, a beautiful body, social status, a prominent family, military or athletic victories are all GOOD things of which we can be proud. The problem of sin comes in when we set these things up as "false gods", expecting them to provide sustenance for our soul or solutions to life's problems. They can't. They're not up to the task.

    The problem comes when Man, having once and for all pushed "God" out the front door, tries to smuggle something else in through the service entrance to take his place. Muscles won't be preached against as much as worldly "riches", in this respect, but then they are less likely to be taken as a "false god" and set off warning alarms in our head.

    (Is this ME talking! "What have you done with BigLittleTim?")
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLittleTim View Post
    Exactly, Nark! One may be a generous, kind, loving and "Christian" (to go the whole ten yards) and be a bodybuilder, just as one may be all those things and a wealthy heiress or capitalist, or aristocrat, or communist... If bodybuilding helps bring you into the family of mankind, and doesn't lock you up and make all men your potential rivals and enemies, it has helped you realize your full humanity and is a good thing. Sin is, by its very nature, competitive. A sinful nature doesn't care about being rich, or beautiful, or muscular... the "joy" of sin comes in being MORE rich, or MORE beautiful, or MORE muscular than everybody else... and using that fact not to build up your own humanity, but rather to pull other people down, to make them feel "less than", worthless, unloved.

    It is the spirit in which we perform our actions that they are judged.

    Riches, good health, a beautiful body, social status, a prominent family, military or athletic victories are all GOOD things of which we can be proud. The problem of sin comes in when we set these things up as "false gods", expecting them to provide sustenance for our soul or solutions to life's problems. They can't. They're not up to the task.

    The problem comes when Man, having once and for all pushed "God" out the front door, tries to smuggle something else in through the service entrance to take his place. Muscles won't be preached against as much as worldly "riches", in this respect, but then they are less likely to be taken as a "false god" and set off warning alarms in our head.
    Great post.


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    I was raised Catholic, but after seeing two of my best friends die in a helio crash with me, and then being a block away when that jerkoff blew up the Murrah Building in OKC, I guess I kinda lost my faith. Not trying to down your thread bro, just giving my opinion

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    I don't understand all the kaos in the world either. Not letting it affect my belief in God at this point, just putting it off till it will all be revealed to us later (judgement day/next life)...

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    ^^Why speculate?

    That's as pointless as counting every grain of sand on the beach.

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    im a christian.

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    lol these threads go nowhere!!

    Its all about faith. The truth is, what you want it to be. What makes your god any more credible than that of the Greek Gods? other religions? etc.

    Whose to say whose right and whose wrong?

    I don't like organized religion. Do I believe in Jesus?
    No. Im sure there was a "jesus", but some miracle working messiah? I dont think so. This is my opinion/view, and were each entitled to. If people choose to believe, and it causes them to have a better life/be a better person, more power to them.

    A quote I've always kind of liked is:
    "I contend we are both atheists; I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    lol these threads go nowhere!!

    Its all about faith. The truth is, what you want it to be. What makes your god any more credible than that of the Greek Gods? other religions? etc.

    Whose to say whose right and whose wrong?

    I don't like organized religion. Do I believe in Jesus?
    No. Im sure there was a "jesus", but some miracle working messiah? I dont think so. This is my opinion/view, and were each entitled to. If people choose to believe, and it causes them to have a better life/be a better person, more power to them.

    A quote I've always kind of liked is:
    "I contend we are both atheists; I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

    The historical Jesus is a part of history. No new testament scholar today would deny that. I respect your response but believing that is illogical. The question is did He rise from the dead. Christianity stands or falls on this question. BigSexy that tomb is empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boots555 View Post
    The historical Jesus is a part of history. No new testament scholar today would deny that. I respect your response but believing that is illogical. The question is did He rise from the dead. Christianity stands or falls on this question. BigSexy that tomb is empty.
    I disagree with him rising from the dead.


    Whats illogical? What makes your god any more credible than any other? How can you possibly down all other possible gods?? Did you know, the bible is only 1/10 of the writings from back then. It just so happen to live on because of thats what the Romans wanted was it not??

    Better yet, lets just agree to disagree. This will go nowhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    I disagree with him rising from the dead.


    Whats illogical? What makes your god any more credible than any other? How can you possibly down all other possible gods?? Did you know, the bible is only 1/10 of the writings from back then. It just so happen to live on because of thats what the Romans wanted was it not??

    Better yet, lets just agree to disagree. This will go nowhere


    Both liberal and Conservative scholars agree that Christ was a real person and died on the cross.

    Christ is credible because of his incredible life. He performed miracles to credidate who He was claiming to be. He fullfilled hundreds of old testament prophecies. I would encourage you to just read read Isaiah 53. Again that tomb is empty. All the Jews had to do to squash Christianity is provide the body. The tomb is empty. Christ said this would happen over and over again. He predicted his own death. Not only that but also things like the destruction of the temple.

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    This was more than a carpenter

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    raised Catholic.......I can see through the bullshit.....some people cant, some people get turned away from it because of corruption and bullshit.......But I believe in Jesus, and I believe in God.

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    Its a fact that Christ is a real person of history. If your catholic you know about Augustine. One of the the greatest minds to live. He said it years ago, you never judge a philosophy by those who abuse it. You judge it by its founder and the claims it makes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boots555 View Post
    Its a fact that Christ is a real person of history. If your catholic you know about Augustine. One of the the greatest minds to live. He said it years ago, you never judge a philosophy by those who abuse it. You judge it by its founder and the claims it makes.
    +100

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    I am happy to here from catholics.

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    I consider them christian also

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    Quote Originally Posted by boots555 View Post
    I consider them christian also
    news flash...they are christians! if you believe in chirst , you are christian, you dont have to be born again or any other denomination to be christian.



    A Christian is a person who adheres to Christianity, a monotheistic religion centered on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as presented in the New Testament and interpreted by Christians to have been prophesied in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament

    theologians consider a Christian to be anyone who accepts the Nicene Creed. This ancient text is accepted by Catholics, the Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans and all the remaining mainline Protestant Churches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust View Post
    news flash...they are christians! if you believe in chirst , you are christian, you dont have to be born again or any other denomination to be christian.



    A Christian is a person who adheres to Christianity, a monotheistic religion centered on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as presented in the New Testament and interpreted by Christians to have been prophesied in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament

    theologians consider a Christian to be anyone who accepts the Nicene Creed. This ancient text is accepted by Catholics, the Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans and all the remaining mainline Protestant Churches.


    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by boots555 View Post
    I agree
    cool!

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    Some need Atheism like those who cling to christianity. It goes both ways and I can go into detail about it.

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    i was raised catholic, was an alter boy for years went to catholic school, now i am not catholic. i made my own choice to become Episcopalian. more excepting rules that make more sense to myself.

    believe what you will believe. but i dont want to see people pointing at others and saying
    " what i believe is the right, if you believe anything else you are going to hell" if this happens again, thread is closed

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    i was raised catholic, was an alter boy for years went to catholic school, now i am not catholic. i made my own choice to become Episcopalian. more excepting rules that make more sense to myself.

    believe what you will believe. but i dont want to see people pointing at others and saying
    " what i believe is the right, if you believe anything else you are going to hell" if this happens again, thread is closed

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