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[sooners04]

sooners04... that just make no sense...

I will ask again, how hard is to hit the groin, throat, and eyes, do you need 10 years of training to hit that? NO. pretty much in a week you could be a master at hiting groins, throats and eyes... There used to be some kempo fighters at the beggining, but they got their asses kicked so bad, that after a while, there was no kempo fighter no more (at least on kempo)...

If You ask me if they were able to use all kind of atacks at UFC 1 2 3, the out come would of been any different... I say... HELL NO, Why? because other guys will be able to use the same techniques against you.. so imagine royce holding your nuts, to make you leave an open spot for him to grab your arm and break it in 10 parts... The assumption that TM do not work on MMA 'cause their arent able to use dirty attacks... is just some excuse they tell you at your dojo so you can keep on practicing (and paying of course)... and the worst thing is that even the instructor belives it...

Again I'll say that the person with the most training increases his/her odds of winning a fight. Just like in Zimmy's example. It's obvious you don't practice hitting the throat, eyes, or groin because it's a lot easier to hit someone's face or kick them in the leg than it is to strike their throat or eyes. That just comes down to target area. Even in UFC 1,2,3 there were rules, like no eye gouging. To say we practice JUST hitting those area's is another example that you no nothing about Kenpo. We practice blocking/avoiding strikes and then attacking those area's in a quick and effective manner. It's not an excuse for the instructor(ME) to use, it's just the easiest and quickest way to injure your opponent in a street situation and it's how we train, so it's what we are most comfortable with, just like Zimmy trains BJJ and is most comfortable taking the guy to the ground rather than boxing with him.

[bRKBEATz]

Sure Bruce Lee would lose to any MMA fighter of today's era.

However, for his time, he was one of the first to realize that mixing styles was the most effective way to fight. He was more than an actor - he was a great fighter, and one that realized that a person needs to use more than 1 style to win fights. As hge once said:

"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.

Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."

[roid_rage]

Again I'll say that the person with the most training increases his/her odds of winning a fight. Just like in Zimmy's example. It's obvious you don't practice hitting the throat, eyes, or groin because it's a lot easier to hit someone's face or kick them in the leg than it is to strike their throat or eyes. That just comes down to target area. Even in UFC 1,2,3 there were rules, like no eye gouging. To say we practice JUST hitting those area's is another example that you no nothing about Kenpo. We practice blocking/avoiding strikes and then attacking those area's in a quick and effective manner. It's not an excuse for the instructor(ME) to use, it's just the easiest and quickest way to injure your opponent in a street situation and it's how we train, so it's what we are most comfortable with, just like Zimmy trains BJJ and is most comfortable taking the guy to the ground rather than boxing with him.

I'm sorry my friend, i'm sure you are totally conviced about your techniques, and sure as hell you are going to answer that you already used them, but I just dont buy that crap, blocking/avoiding? give me a break, unless you train full real contact, no matter how many times you simulate the situation, in real life, with the adrenaline going on, and specially not knowing where the heck the hit is coming from, you will get hit... , i'm telling you, it works to hit someone in the throat if you hit them buy sorprise, but as soon as the fighting has started, unless the other guy is a retard, it is pretty damm hard to hit to the throat, and even if you can hit the throat, its got to be clean shot to make any effect, other ways, is just like a hit to the neck, and what happend if you miss the hit? that you will most likely miss... uhmm?? going for the eyes? as soonest as you realize, if the other guy has a couple of more pounds that you, you are going be getting the beating of your life on the ground...

What I'm saying is that you cant base your whole MT in a couple of dirty tricks, again, you can be a master on hitting right spots in a couple of weeks, but being a real athlete, get the strengh, cardio and hability that a cross training gives you, that's what it makes you a good fighter, in the street or the mat... Sorry man, but I've done a lot of different MT, seen too many fights and been involved as well, and simply, dont buy the karate, kung fu shit no more.

[sooners04]

I'm sorry my friend, i'm sure you are totally conviced about your techniques, and sure as hell you are going to answer that you already used them, but I just dont buy that crap, blocking/avoiding? give me a break, unless you train full real contact, no matter how many times you simulate the situation, in real life, with the adrenaline going on, and specially not knowing where the heck the hit is coming from, you will get hit... , i'm telling you, it works to hit someone in the throat if you hit them buy sorprise, but as soon as the fighting has started, unless the other guy is a retard, it is pretty damm hard to hit to the throat, and even if you can hit the throat, its got to be clean shot to make any effect, other ways, is just like a hit to the neck, and what happend if you miss the hit? that you will most likely miss... uhmm?? going for the eyes? as soonest as you realize, if the other guy has a couple of more pounds that you, you are going be getting the beating of your life on the ground...

What I'm saying is that you cant base your whole MT in a couple of dirty tricks, again, you can be a master on hitting right spots in a couple of weeks, but being a real athlete, get the strengh, cardio and hability that a cross training gives you, that's what it makes you a good fighter, in the street or the mat... Sorry man, but I've done a lot of different MT, seen too many fights and been involved as well, and simply, dont buy the karate, kung fu shit no more.

I agree with EVERYTHING your saying, but I don't know why your singling out that the style I practice ONLY strikes throat, eyes and groin. We do punch and kick and block strikes. I'm not sure what styles you practice but don't you practice punching/kicking/blocking as well? It's easier to hit someone in the face than the throat but the difference is the damage done. If you miss punching someone in the face don't you take a chance of getting countered? You act like those are the ONLY things we train for? You know NOTHING of my style and you insist we don't train full contact. I would appreciate it if you didn't assume that you know EVERYTHING about EVERY martial art out there because you have seen a few different ways of training. You say that if I don't know where the strike is coming form I'm going to get hit, well YOU tell me how ANY style is going to prepare you for a strike that you don't see coming? As far as cardio goes in the street, in my experience in a street fight, the fight doesn't last long enough to worry about having good cardio, adrenaline takes you far enough to last a couple minutes easy. In the street someone breaks up the fight, either a bouncer/security or police of maybe a group of friends. Street fights aren't normally set up with both guys knowing that they are in a fight until someone makes the first move, in which case that will NEVER be me and if I have a chance to walk away from a fight you can bet I will EVERYTIME. NO need to jeopardize my job or life for fighting on the street if it can be avoided. One other thing that hasn't been brought up is training against someone with a weapon, I.E. club/knife. Again leaving would be optimal but what happens when you have NO other choice and you have to defend against that knife or club, do you have a plan of defense? I sure as hell do and I am confident I can survive the attack.

[zimmy]

why does everyone bash on bruce lee? Have ya'll read his book when he was making his own style? It has some bjj in it!

[sooners04]

I will still say that the way I train would NOT work in MMA because it's not made for sport with rules, a referee, and both fighters knowing that they are in a fight. NONE of those instances are the case in a street fight. I'm still confused as to why you keep talking about attacking people by surprise? Why would I attack someone? That only leads to jail/civil lawsuits and retaliation. I'm talking about being aware that an attack is coming and being prepared for it, like I said before there is NO way of training that prepares you for the A-hole that sucker punches you.

[jamyjamjr]

iv been fighting for 5 years now, n when i really look at the different techniques needed for champs to be champs, i see the following;

1. sombo- good stuff, but by its self leaves vulnerabilites
2. good old fashioned bjj- great for ground game, but usually leaves fighters scared of getting hit due to poor stand up experience
3. greco-roman - if you do not incorporate some type of wrestling into your stock, your ground games gonna suck, as is your take down defense
4. boxing- ahhhhh the sweet science, gotta love it... a must have.... or
5. mui thai- gotta have those kicks guys, your feet are your most powerful weapons.. they can knock someone out through a block if youve trained yourself right....

the way i see it, you should be skilled at 1, 2,3 and 4 or 5. i personally do 1, 2, 3, and 4... im a boxer by blood, cant help it...

- theres nothing more bonding then two people who have love and respect for each other getting in the ring and trying to beat the crap out of one another only to strengthen that love and respect... this is the ultimate high