PINNACLE..im calling you out...opps

[BITTAPART2]

totaly agree about the price, if it was 50per 2mg Id be allover it post cycle. I am going to stick to growth and slin, only took me 2 months to find the growth lol

[goose]

At the end of the day,me and pinn care about the community,we dont like our guys pissing away money.Me and pinn were the first generation of IGF users,I know I wasted several thousands on this junk (back then it was double the price today) when it came out,the studies were amazing,but reality is something else.

[Narkissos]

^^Harsh... But agreed.

Could we get the thread back on track now?

I'd like to hear about cumulative muscle gains from IGF.

Personally i got plenty of muscle from my 10-day run of igf.

Unforunately, all of it was intestinal.

My waist went from 26.5" to 28".

-CNS

[Pinnacle]

^^Harsh... But agreed.

Could we get the thread back on track now?

I'd like to hear about cumulative muscle gains from IGF.

Personally i got plenty of muscle from my 10-day run of igf.

Unforunately, all of it was intestinal.

My waist went from 26.5" to 28".

-CNS

LOL.. harsh? haha... I was being VERY kind:-) If you only knew what I really wanted to say...

I don't know how you had enlarged intestines on LRshit IGF-1. It's IGF-2 that binds to receptors in the intestines. You might have possibly had a flair up of Candida. Insulin is known to cause that and since IGF is Insulin-like, it's something to take into account

[Narkissos]

LOL.. harsh? haha... I was being VERY kind:-) If you only knew what I really wanted to say...

I have an idea

I don't know how you had enlarged intestines on LRshit IGF-1. It's IGF-2 that binds to receptors in the intestines.

I'm aware that the distension is attributed to IGF-2...though I'm not 100% convinced.

Who knows what was/is in the Chinese IGF however.

You might have possibly had a flair up of Candida. Insulin is known to cause that and since IGF is Insulin-like, it's something to take into account

2 years ago, when i used the IGF, Whitey raised that as a possibility

Would you suggest chronic Candida overgrowth?

Because the waist increase wasn't temporary.

-C

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Thanks Gear for your input.


What about you C? Any igf feedback?

[Pinnacle]

Would you suggest chronic Candida overgrowth?

Because the waist increase wasn't temporary.

-C

Since you are in a country where OTC thrush treatments are most likely sold, I'd check that out. 1-2 doses and it will be gone.

I had the same thing happen a few years back using slin. Everyone has that bacteria in the intestines, but drugs like insulin really flair it up especially when eating higher carbs.

[Narkissos]

Since you are in a country where OTC thrush treatments are most likely sold, I'd check that out. 1-2 doses and it will be gone.

I did use a compound for it when it was suggested to me 2 years ago... I'm not at home at the moment, so I'd have to post the name of it when I get there.. I think I should have the package still.

I had the same thing happen a few years back using slin. Everyone has that bacteria in the intestines, but drugs like insulin really flair it up especially when eating higher carbs.

So I've read...But given that I did use an oral anti-fungal post-assessment... but still have the distension, I attributed the distension to actual growth... as opposed to a flair up.

Would you suggest I try another anti-fungal at this point... or get fecal sample taken to assess what the deal is?

Cus I'd like a sub-26" waist again

-C

[Pinnacle]

I see you down there lurking Jay...lol..

[PT]

i want to hear more views on igf. im well aware of all the so called facts that gropep and other igf suppliers indicate but i want to hear personal experiances. pin made a few good points and if he's correct then were all wasting our money on igf. i was one of the first people to use receptor grade igf when it first came out and i always thought i was having good results but then again i never really ever used it alone. when igf first hit the market years ago one of the main suppliers sent me and a few others samples so we could post our results and of course since i got it for free i didnt have one negative comment. i honestly belived that igf was helping me recover faster and was making my harder but this post is making me think. i want to thank pinn for opening my eyes and because of this i have alot of research to do this weekend. im a member of at least 10-15 boards and im going to make a thread on every board asking people this same question. of course i will get a bunch of morons that will say, "igf made me huge" or "i love it" but i want proof and results from experianced users

[jef]

so what positive effect does igf have? muscle retention while losing fat? is it even worth taking? from working with you in the past I always thought it was good to use on a moderate-high carb diet and would help with fat loss, vascularity and muscle retention...can you give clarification on this?

[fujitsupalm]

i was on igf-1, hgh, on a tren a and test prop cycle.

actually continuing with the IGF-1, hgh, coming to an end of my pct. (third week)

it could be the gh im not sure, just sharing how im feeling right now with my pct.

PCT is the same old same old, hcg, a-dex, clomid.

first week of coming off gear and on pct, i noticed and accepted the fact that my sex drive would be low, however like any other tren cycles i have had and the usual pct, and this is the first time i used igf-1 and hgh.

end of the second week, i was able to fxxk my girls brains out again... i loved that... (not pornography, just mentioning and surprised how soon i could actually find my gf really attractive again that soon after a cycle)

now end of third week, every time i see her i cant get my hands off her, and the hard-on seems to be good, unlike my other pct times, where it took almost a whole month to start really wanting to have sex of any sort with my girl...

so it is the gh helping? or the igf helping? or this time my body just on its own recovered better with the usual pct, or it's just placebo effect (or is it only my imagination that im fxxking my girls brain out, whereas she does not think so? lol)

cheers guys...

[RA]

This thread cracks me up..lol

[D7M]

^lol

classic Pinn.

[Flex-Appeal]

I'm glad this old ass thread was bumped, I got my laughs in for the day!