All Out Strength: Halotestin vs Tren

[one8nine]

let me know what you guys think of this cycle:

wk 1-4: Halo 20-30mg (depending on tolerance, but most likely 20mg)
wk 1-12: Test Prop 100mg ed

Diet: Clean bulk with tons of fish, chicken, potatoes, whole grain pasta, 280g protein ed, start out at 4000 cal ed, tons of water.

Training: Powerlifting routine, consisting of really low rep sets with heavy heavy weight. (5 sets of 5 my best bet)

wk 12-16: PCT with 20mg nolva ed/with proviron(researching dosage)

just so you know:

5'8"
180lbs
10% BF as of last night

pct starts after you cut test, not the last week of it
ive used halo 70mg ed just fine

[football3355]

pct starts after you cut test, not the last week of it
ive used halo 70mg ed just fine

i know, since prop has a short ester, I got it. Ok 30mg ed for starters on Halo. I just dont know how good its gunna work compared to a50 + test prop

[one8nine]

i know, since prop has a short ester, I got it. Ok 30mg ed for starters on Halo. I just dont know how good its gunna work compared to a50 + test prop

you put
test 1-12
12-16 pct

pct should start 13

[football3355]

ok i see what you mean...but I put 12 because depending on when I start I might be on week 12 still when I start pct a day after last test injec. But I know what you mean, my bad. I have to do more research though since I want more opinions on halo about strength. Your info is great but everyone else seems to not be sayin so. But I know you have more experience so i believe you

[one8nine]

ok i see what you mean...but I put 12 because depending on when I start I might be on week 12 still when I start pct a day after last test injec. But I know what you mean, my bad. I have to do more research though since I want more opinions on halo about strength. Your info is great but everyone else seems to not be sayin so. But I know you have more experience so i believe you

who said helo isnt best for strength? everyone in this thread agreed

ive used:
m1t
test e
test p
tren e
tren a
deca
masteron p
masteron e
npp
halo
drol

i think thats it?
halo by far for strength, with tren in second
when people give you their opinion be sure to ask for experience not internet copy paste numbers

[football3355]

wow. I totally understand bro. Damn you've taken alot. Yes those numnbers do seem off, thanks for your help once again. Halo it is! still cant get over your knowledge>>>> if taking that much doesnt make you a vet, then idk what will lol. BTW saw your post about your accident man, the best to you. I know how it feels second hand, my uncle was in a coma for 6 years after driving home and fell asleep at the wheel and rammed the corner of a big rig. Now hes in a wheel chair and barely knows who we are. Good luck man! You are mentally tough from mma, im sure, so you'll get through it just like a tough fight. After all, that's kinda what it is, in a sense

[one8nine]

wow. I totally understand bro. Damn you've taken alot. Yes those numnbers do seem off, thanks for your help once again. Halo it is! still cant get over your knowledge>>>> if taking that much doesnt make you a vet, then idk what will lol. BTW saw your post about your accident man, the best to you. I know how it feels second hand, my uncle was in a coma for 6 years after driving home and fell asleep at the wheel and rammed the corner of a big rig. Now hes in a wheel chair and barely knows who we are. Good luck man! You are mentally tough from mma, im sure, so you'll get through it just like a tough fight. After all, that's kinda what it is, in a sense

ive had harder 6 minutes than these 6 months it. it will be over ill be healed soon, no sweat.

show me a post that someone said halo isnt best for strength though? you said no one agreed with me?

[football3355]

ive had harder 6 minutes than these 6 months it. it will be over ill be healed soon, no sweat.

show me a post that someone said halo isnt best for strength though? you said no one agreed with me?

only one person on here dude, I meant online, not here specifically. And I didn't mean disagree with you personally or specifically either. I looked online and out of the charts and alot of people not on here, they feel tren is alot better, but mabye they werent comparing strength, shit brb

[john1181]

i hear halo is very very toxic..one should have frequent blood tests on it..

[BG]

Tried it for 3 weeks at 40mgs, didnt feel much maybe was bunk, got more strength from oral winny and cheaper.

[Gym Freak]

Tried it for 3 weeks at 40mgs, didnt feel much maybe was bunk, got more strength from oral winny and cheaper.

Do you think your dose was to low. Some have said that they didn't feel or notice anything until 70mg.

[Stoneco|d]

nice topic!

Someone mentioned Test, Tren, Halo ... was that a joke or can it be stacked?

week 1-12 test p
week 1-10 tren
week 9-12 halo

If so would a pct of proviron, hcg and clomid be sufficient or just clomid/proviron. That stack looks sick lol.

[sharky]

Imo halo for strength. I did run it a little hight than maximus is saying but i would go with him.

[ofthegoose1]

If ive been off of a 12 weeker for 2 months....would it be safe to run a short 3-4 week cycle of halo? trying to increase strength for powerlifting..

[BlackTalon]

Im on tren now and I cant imagine anything having better strength gains. It ranks a lot higher on the isteroid.com steroid effectiveness chart

[Kibble]

So if you want a sure shot at strength, why not run a test base, along with 400mg/week Tren, and 50mg/ED Halo?

Thanks for this thread OP, I was just about to start one with questions on Halo. It sounds like the perfect oral since it produces strength without weight gain. That is exactly what I want.

[gymnerd]

So if you want a sure shot at strength, why not run a test base, along with 400mg/week Tren, and 50mg/ED Halo?

Thanks for this thread OP, I was just about to start one with questions on Halo. It sounds like the perfect oral since it produces strength without weight gain. That is exactly what I want.

50mg ed of Halo will cause you some liver damage most likely 20mg ED is all you need.

[CoreyJoseph]

Tren is a better choice Halo is more a drug used by competitive body builders during the last few weeks of contest prep they take Halo to gain a harder dryer physique..