Maybe on week 5 day 1 ill take some pics and u guys ca compare to my before pics. Ive noticed im a little fuller all around but i know this early on its just water.
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Maybe on week 5 day 1 ill take some pics and u guys ca compare to my before pics. Ive noticed im a little fuller all around but i know this early on its just water.
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Fu*k, my left felt is startin to kill now! Im sure its from me movin th needle around like a dumbass tryin to aspirate with one hand. Just hope i can lift my arm over my head tomorrow so i can still work out back. I know last time i shot my right delt i couldnt lift my arm past my chin worth sh*t. Switching gear soon to another test e ugl that shouldnt be so damn painful. I heat my gear in hot water for 3-4 minutes and rub site for a good 5 minutes but always get pain still. Fu*kin sucks when it starts effecting ur workouts!
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Yeah I feel you on the effecting your workout part thats why I stopped using prop after 7 days plus I was pinning to much at one time and I didn't have enough needles to go to ED so I quit. I remember though within 4 days my eyes began to dilate and I felt full. Probably due to the dbol I was taking as well. Keep at it
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I thought u where all natty? I knew u where a liar with the kind of weight u push! HAha, j/k.Originally Posted by Reed500
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Na, never claimed to be. I wrote up my 5 prohormones cycles before. Don't you remember when I tried to go to the dark side, probably not since the cycle only lasted a whole week!!!I *****ed out cause of the inability to perform exercises. Prop and dbol was going to be my first cycle.
Last edited by Reed; 08-25-2008 at 08:20 PM.
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I know bro, just fu*kin wit ya. Get all defense and sh*t, just jokin. We all know you juice bro, haha. Looks like ur doin good over on ur log, u move some crazy weight bro! I want to grow up to be just like you, j/k. Lol!Na, never claimed to be. I wrote up my 5 prohormones cycles before. Don't you remember when I tried to go to the dark side, probably not since the cycle only lasted a whole week!!!
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Don't over-think it man. More importantly is your diet and proper rest(as best you can). When it starts to kick in, you'll know it. Take advantage of it then.
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I know, im just over thinking it. Just ive done ph cycles in the past and know what its like to feel "On" and im not gettin that yet. Im sure its all gradually building up and will hopefully peak soon so i can get some strength gains and feel like im "On" something. Just a few more shots of this ugl then switching to another thats dosed at 275mg/cc so ill be up 50mg a week till week 12. Hopefully that extra 50mg a week will help boost things up.
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HAd a great back workout today! My shoulder pain from the inject the day before was almost 100% gone when i woke up today thank god! Had a lot of energy in the gym and sweat like a fu*kin pig too! Does this stuff make u sweat a lot? I mean my whole top half of my shirt was drenched half way through my workout. Ive never sweat like that before in the gym, no fat burner or anything has got me that hot before. I didnt mind it but just seemed kinda weird that i was so damn drenched. Ive noticed in these last 4-5 days ive been sweating a little more in the gym but today man i was soaked! Didnt push any crazy weights today, bout the same as before. Still, had great energy and was only taking 60 second breaks between sets.
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wukillabee, yeah I hardly ever sweat but on test man I am sweating major at the gym, at home I am running hotter than usual and have to have the air down or the fan on. even the wife has noticed about the sweating during "business time" ahah
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Oh yeah, sweatin lastnite during sex more than normal haha. Why is that while on test u sweat more? Not a big deal to me, just curious.wukillabee, yeah I hardly ever sweat but on test man I am sweating major at the gym, at home I am running hotter than usual and have to have the air down or the fan on. even the wife has noticed about the sweating during "business time" ahah
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Buuuudddy. Is it starting to work??? I'm pumped!!! Oh I pmed you caused I wanted to know the size of the needle you were using for your chest. Do you think 1 inch 23g is too much for me.
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Bro, i already pmed u back lastnite! Yeah, i use 23g 1' now with this ugl cus its so dang thick i have to. Next ugl ima start in a week should be much thinner so i can go back to my 25g pins. Its takin its damn time to kick in very slowly but yeah, its gettin there i guess. Im thinkin ill really be feelin it by next week, if not then my gear is way fu*kin underdosed or bunk. Feel good right now though. My mood has been very pleasent, muscles feel more full and thick (probably just water), sweatin a hell of a lot more, slight increase in libido i guess u can say. All the ingredients to an aas cycle except the one and only one im lookin for, "The damn strength gains!" Hopefully that will be the next to kick in and knowing my luck looks like the last to kick in, haha!
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Yeah I never got that PM, you sure you didn't PM yourself. I've done that before. Yeah your probably starting to feel it. Good.
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oh, maybe.
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Had a decent shoulder workout today, nothing to brag about. If anything i was a little weaker than normal on shrugs for some reason. Not sure why since my diet is in check and i got 8hrs sleep lastnite like i do everynite, maybe just a bad day? Had a good pump in the gym and some good intensity while workin out shoulders but no strength gains yet. Kinda sad on this one, was hopin to see some strength gains by now. Well tomorrow is inject day, gonna do left glute in the evening before workin out legs so maybe after that shot things might kick in more, idk? Maybe my gear is suspect or im expecting too much too soon? Either way i would expect strength gains by now.
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lets hear about the new pain
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Sounds like you're well on your way. Worth the wait? It gets better.
I did the same workout today, but i threw in some hack squats at the end for good measure and i'm already hurtin. Even got on the treadmill for 2 miles hoping it would minimize the soreness some but no luck yet. It's worked in the past.
Keep up the good work man and i'll be checking your progress.
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Yeah its worth the wait but now knowing how good my body responds with no bad sides so far, if i do another long ester cycle ima frontload for like the first 2 weeks! No need to wait 4-5 weeks for it to warm up, waste in my eyes and wallet. Im sure starting monday with the new gear and bringin my test up from 500mg a week to 550mg a week for the rest of the cycle will also help give me the full potential of it. Thanks guys for keepin up with my log. I hate doin a log with no one responding, its like ur talkin to urself haha.
Shit, gotta call the gym to make sure theyre open monday or its gonna **** up my routine again.
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Why don't you just make it an even 600? You have plenty left right?
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Oh yeah, i have enough for 550mg for probably another 10 weeks if i wanted. This vial is 20ml at 275m/ml. My other older stuff i just used is a 10ml vial at 250mg/ml. SO how would i measure the 275mg stuff in a 3ml syringe to get 300mg per shot? at the 1.2ml mark maybe? Not the best when it comes to these measurements, haha. 600mg a week does sound nice though! Why didnt i think of that?
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Hey guys I`m a newby here.Need some advise.I find a sourse for my first cycle.It`s gonna be testosterone cypionate or enathate what ever i find available.400 mg a week in one shot for three weeks.As pct I was thinking to do this I found on forum.Start one week after last shoot Clomid 100mg twice a day for three week and run nolvadex at 20mg day for three week.How that is sound?What do you think wood be the right price for the gear in question.Im 32, 130pound body fat12% tall5.6 many thanks in advance,you`re great guys
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This is a person's cycle log not the Steroid Q+A forum, post your questions there. You'd get a much better response. But I can tell you right now with your stats I'd suggest to look into the diet forum before you begin any cycle. Workout, diet proper for a while, get your weight and muscle mass up then start a cycle.
Last edited by Reed; 08-31-2008 at 01:35 AM.
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Oh, ok. Little tougher to figure but i broke out the old calculater for this one. According to my calculations, 1.1 yeilds 302.5mgs, and 1.2 yeilds 330mgs, if i did it right. Think i did.
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Haha, i hope u did. Dont want to look like a newb and make a new thread asking people how to dose my 275mg gear to get 300mg out of it, haha. I thought it would be 1.1-1.2. Anyone else have some insight on this? Thanks stpete, appreciate it but would like to know for sure.
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Today was my first inject with my new ugl gear. Its dosed at 275mg/ml and was looking to shoot 300mg so i did 1.1ml. Warmed up the vial, tried drawing with my 23g (since i was told i could easily do so) but still had trouble, shot with 25g. Even so, i can easily tell this gear is thinner than my last ugl so thats good. Shot my right pec no probs and no pain. 5hrs later, no pain, next day (today) no pain at all! I love it! Might just go back to drawing with my 20g and shooting with my 23g but lovin this gear cus zero pain! My goal now is 600mg a week til the end.
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Did chest today and loved it! Was easily up 10-20lbs on all my lifts and pushin it like nothing. HAd a great pump in my chest and felt pretty damn strong. FInally noticing the strength gains and my whole body feels pumped and strong all day long, love it. No prohormones compare to the real deal my firends, none!
My body weight unfortunately keeps fluctuating so i dont know where the hell im at. I started pre-cycle at 198lbs weighing myself first thing in the morning upon waking up. Weighed myself 2 nights ago just before bed at a solid 210lbs. Weighed myself today 3hrs after my first meal at 206.7lbs. At least im still up a good 8-10lbs from 5 weeks ago i guess. Diet been in check and if anything trying to eat slightly larger portions every 3hrs than normal since im on cycle. Been doin cardio 4-5 days a week so im sure thats keeping my water weight down and bloat away (i really dont see any bloat at all in me). I feel maybe 4lbs water weight gain and maybe 4-6lbs muscle gain, something like a 50/50 mix right now. Ima post up pics midway through at week 6 day 1 for u guys to help me compare to my before pics.
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No injection pain at all today, lovin it! Unfortunately since today was the first day of the fall semester i had to go and add classes last minute so no gym. At least i got my school schedule to work around my work and gym schedule and still able to get 10 units. My chest feels a little sore but thats just from my workout and feels sore in a good way. My muscles feel pumped even on my off days its great. FOr some reason though my arms like my forearms, bis, and tris feel the most pumped everyday. Cant complain, just thought my larger muscle groups would feel more pumped than my smallest. Back/calfs/cardio tomorrow.
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So what your saying is that I need to get off that weak sauce and hop on the test train. lol. Well thats good to hear from you that prohormones don't compare to the real deal. I can't wait to start. Hopefully I'll get big
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Oh yeah bro! Ive tried m1t, superdrol, orginal halo (which im gonna through in the last 4 weeks), orastan a and e, 11oxo, phera, you get the idea. None of these, not even stacked compare to what im finally feeling now in week 5 of this test e cycle bro. Stop pus*y footing around and get on the real stuff. Prohormones do have their place but this is a whole other level here. Sine ive stocked up on the good ph's and have a sh*tload of them, ill use them in future cycles to either jumpstart or end a cycle.So what your saying is that I need to get off that weak sauce and hop on the test train. lol. Well thats good to hear from you that prohormones don't compare to the real deal. I can't wait to start. Hopefully I'll get big
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Ok you got me all excited I can't wait any longer, I'm starting right now. haha jk. Well as soon as I finish this log, PCT and get my blood work back in check, I'ma get it done! Don't worry I'm not waiting the standard wait time like most people suggest after a cycle. I use to wait like 6 months to a year before I started another 4 or six week PH cycle. I'm at least giving it 2 weeks after PCT before I get blood work done and if it checks out well I'm going for it.
BTW I'm glad your starting to progress. Get it done!!!!
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I think its more legit blood work than time on and pct=time off. I think that protocol is more for aas users and for the 75% of americans like me without medicial insurance that cant really afford to get blood work done out of pocket. As long as blood work is good then id go with it, thats the real determining factor anyway. Time on+pct=time off is just basic, everyone's body is different while some recover much quicker and some much longer. Lucky for me i know i recover much quicker at least from ph cycles.
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dont sweat your weight.
even at 215 single digit bf, i could sweat down to 185 to wrestle no problem and still function 90%
test e bloat could be fluxuating, water intake, sweat, sodium, sugar- all can mess with your weight. the bottom line is your lift # and what you see in the mirror
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True, true. I do see a difference in the mirror in a great way and my lifts are finally starting to get stronger. U can really tell when ur shirt seems like a medium instead of an xl, thats how they feel now. Especially on the sleeves, my arms, shoulders, chest are swole in my regular tees. Also starting to see more defenition then before in my mid-section which is a huge plus! Ur right, i wont trip on the numbers. I know mentally what i want to look like and im definitely on the right path! Gettin swole while gettin lean, doesnt get much better than this!
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pics n measures mid cycle please
then on start of pct
then post pct
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Thats what i was thinkin, see where im at halfway, then at end, then what i kept. GOnna do pics on week 6 day 1 and if i can remember with measurements. Forgot to do measurements before cycle. Whats the best time to do measurements, upon waking up, after workout? gotta find a tape measure to do measurements too damnit. Used to have a good accu thing but lost it. Ill try to find something.
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I do mine first thing in the morning. pictures and measurements shouldn't take more than 20 min. tops. and it is great to have someone help if you can.
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Did back/calfs/cardio today. HAd another great workout today. All my back lifts where up around 10lbs and felt swole the whole time. My donkey calf raises where also up 20lbs which really impressed me since my calfs r laggin. Still sweatin like a pig in the gym like never before. No big deal. Still no real negeative sides, just sometimes feel a little lethargic or out of breath. Never been like that before. Like if i walk up the stairs at work i breath a little harder than i normally would and same when i do cardio. Right delt shot tomorrow, yeah!
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I don't really know when "the best time" is, but i do mine first thing in the morning. I was told this a long time ago by a friend who is a trainer. How are those injects going? Yea, yea, yea, i know, you love em. Freak!!
Keep up the good work bro.
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Alright, ill take my mid cycle pics when i wake up still with the snot in my eye haha! Well had only 1 inject on monday of the new gear and its great! Totally painless! Gonna shot right delt today around 4pm before i hit the gym for shoulders/abs/cardio. Gonna stick with 1.1ml for the rest of my cycle to get 600mg a week. Still havin zero negative side effects such as acne, mood swings, gyno symptoms, bloat. Having plenty of positive effects though such as increased strength, pump, aggressivness (in the gym), size, good sense of well being all day and everyday, increased libido. List kinda goes on in that department. Just glad my gear is the real deal and im not gettin bad sides.
Still was thinking though maybe in a week or so to throw in .25mg of l-dex eod since im doin 600mg of test E a week just so nothing bad does arrive. Like a prevent anything bad happening before it happens and more drastic measures need to be takin. What do you guys think on this?
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