You guys think Chucks....

[OH REALLY]

hay faggot biitch, how would you like it if someone posted a video of you getting slapped across the face. Totally god fk you up. wheres your god damn manners

Is that you chuck

[gooer]

i love chuck, but i think his fighting days are coming to a close. in his prime he would have stomped rashad. did you guys see the post fight interview he had a lump on his face the size of a grapefruit.

[False Positive]

Chuck will be back. But hopefully for him it will be with a new trainer. Hackleman has turned Chuck into a one dimensional bum.

[WARMachine]

Hackleman turned Chuck one dimenisonal?

Or Chuck Liddell fights like hes one dimensional!?

Dont knock the Pit bro... They are dear friends of my camp.

[False Positive]

I wasn't saying that the people at the PIT aren't good friends. I'm simply doubting whether or not they can produce a relevant fighter. Would you say they are on par with BTT?

[WARMachine]

All time? No, i think BTT is the greatest camp ever. Our record speaks for itself.

Although Chute Boxe, ATT, and Miletich FS are right on our ass.

The Pit and BTT often train together, we send guys to help with BJJ and they send guys to help with kickboxing.

They produce MANY relevant fighters. Gan McGee(fought for UFC HW title), Scott Adams(doesnt fight anymore however), Antonio Banuelos (WEC contender), Tim Kennedy (IFL contender), Scotty Lighty(serious K-1 fighter, now starting his MMA career.), Glover Teixeira (Whom i know very well. He's KO'd Sokoudjou, is 6-2 with 6kos. Hes going to be making a UFC debut very soon im sure.)and obviously Chuck Liddell.

Thats a pretty damn good camp IMO.

Between those guys, and thier relationship with BTT, id say they are one of the best camps to train at IMO.

[False Positive]

Its not a bad camp but in my eyes it is a far cry from Elite. Team Quest is so much more deep and relevant at this point in time. Extreme Couture dominates, especially for lightwieghts. ATT is great AKA is awesome. BTT is legit. Chute Boxe is falling apart but still elite. I know they are your boys but come on....

[WARMachine]

Team Quest is a good camp. They have many up-and-comers but very few actual contenders IMO. Danny Henderson is leading that group.

ATT i think is currently the best camp in the world. They are very good in all areas and are producing contender after contender.

Chute Boxe is dead. ()

Extreme Couture has a staple of guys who are world class. They arent much of a team in the traditional sense however.

Granted, the Pit isnt the best, but its nothing to overlook.

IMO, these are the best camps in the world.


1) ATT
2) Black House
3) Extreme Couture
4) BTT
5) Greg Jackson's
6) Miletich Submission Fighting/Hit Squad
7) Team Quest
8) AKA
9) Red Devil
10) The Pit
11) Team Wolfstair
12) Chute Boxe
13) Team Link
14) Team Punishment
15) Lion's Den/ Hammerhouse

[False Positive]

Team Wolfstair has got to outrank the Pit after adding Kongo and QJ. You are right about Black House though, those guys are legit. Is Belfort still there? God I want to see the old Belfort back so bad. I think 185 is going to do wonders for him.

[WARMachine]

No Belfort is actually with Extreme Couture now...

I think since he got off the juice hes been sub-par...

No way Wolfstair outranks Pit... Still needs to be proven. QJ and Kongo are NICE additions though...

But overall i think my list is good.

Agree?

[False Positive]

Agree for the most part 12-15 are interchangeable because they are all on the brink of extinction but other than that you are right on the money. Of course i still rank Wolfstair above the Pit but other than that we agree

[rush_604]

Honorable mention to Marc Dellagrote and Team Sityadong. Hes been doin some good work.

[WARMachine]

^^ He trains a lot of guys...

Hes a world class trainer no doubt