Gay Marriage: support or oppose?

[CeeLo]

Gay people have a right to be just as misrable as the rest of us...


I quote one of my favorite fighters of all time

-"I respect different sexual orientations but I advise them not to touch me."

I like that!

I have said this before. I have gay friends and relatives and I don't preach to them that it is either right or wrong. I just can't watch it or be in the mist or the act.

[DSM4Life]

I like that!

I have said this before. I have gay friends and relatives and I don't preach to them that it is either right or wrong. I just can't watch it or be in the mist or the act.

Tell this to your relatives, " It sickens me so much that i can't bare to see you show affection to the person you love" and see how they respond.

[Hoggage_54]

Gay marriage is legal in Canada. All we kept hearing from the haters was how it was going to destroy society as we know it. I'm still waiting for society to be destroyed...

[IronReload04]

why the hell not?

1. all that would be doing to making official what is already going on

2. this country was built on freedoms.....marriage is one of them.

[40plusnewbie]

No problems with gay marriage. It has to be fair for everyone.

I do have a problem with government getting involved with religion. The WORD marriage has very specific legal benefits/liabilities. For thousands of years, marriage has been a religious event. It is still a religious event today for many Americans.

You don't need a bar mitzvah license or a baptism license, so why do you need a marriage license?

I don't think that the WORD marriage should have any legal meaning because it is a religious event.

As far a I am concerned, churches get to decide if people can get married. Some churches have been marrying gay people for quite some time. Not sure how the government gets to override god for those people.

Word baby! Of course by getting involved they get to have extra control over us and charge us for the privelege of being controlled in this manner and then make a bunch of rules like in the tax codes and whatnot.

I think government should have nothing to do with marriage.

In fact I think that governments are inherently evil and should all be aboloshed and replaced by societies based on voluntary associations between people (and I'm not crazy, I realize if govt disappeared tomorrow there would be chaos. But govt today creates a ton of chaos. In fact governments have killed more of their own citizens in the 20th century than all the poeple killed in wars over that same time period, so govt ain't no peach neither).

[Jfew44]

"Guys, the real enemy here, is the institution of marriage, it unrealistic, it's crazy!"
Wedding Crashers

[oneshot]

You should be able to decide who you want to file your taxes and share your healthcare plan with. Legally, that's all marriage is anyway.

[green22]

My suggestion to all the gay folks out there.......Just keep dating, cause when ya get married, the sex stops. Really though, I could care less...

[CONsis10c]

I'd have to say I support gay marriage because if i was a women I would damn sure be a lesbian.

[QuieTSToRM33]

Marriage is a legal issue ... not a religious one.

I'm all for it.

[Kratos]

You should be able to decide who you want to file your taxes and share your healthcare plan with. Legally, that's all marriage is anyway.

And betting half of your shit on black.
As long as there are legal disputes over money and personal property, gvt will have a role in marriage. Kids in a gay marriage also adds legal issues in case of a break-up.

[Kratos]

i dont understand why you feel you have to stand up to everyone's opinion here. let people voice their opinions, which is what this thread is for, or is it just a means of getting as many people as possible to agree with you and to bash everyone who doesn't tow the line? my mind is still free thank you.

I have to agree, although I support gay marriage, this is not a debate. Only one view point is able to be openly expressed.

[gixxerboy1]

I have to agree, although I support gay marriage, this is not a debate. Only one view point is able to be openly expressed.

i guess i didnt realise i was doing that. I apologise to every that felt i bashed them

[Mike Dura]

All people have the right to pursue happiness in the way they see fit. I don't understand why some heterosexuals feel threatened by gay marraige.

[Nicotine]

as long as no one is being abused, who gives a shit?

with all the BAD shit going on in this world, is 2 people who love each other really that big of a deal?

canada and calif have legalized it. they didn't explode and fall off the map, the "FAMILY UNIT" still exists.....

i still fail to see how "the family unit" would fall apart for those who are in families.

i didnt know buttseks would destroy other peoples homes :P

[JiGGaMaN]

canada and calif have legalized it. they didn't explode and fall off the map, the "FAMILY UNIT" still exists.....

i still fail to see how "the family unit" would fall apart for those who are in families.

****, i dont think theres many households out their with a functional 'family unit'. I dont think i know of any...

[Tock]

No reason why gay people should have to find a heterosexual if they need to get married.
I know lots of gay guys who married straight women in a desperate hope that they'd "straighten out" (lots of guys grow up in religious families around here). All that happened was both their lives were made miserable.

There's a reason why some birds of a feather flock together . . .

[joescobra03]

it's their decision

[zimmy]

I'm a libertarian so obviously I don't think the government should be allowed to regulate half of what they do...and this is included. But seeing as California is borderline socialist anyway...it wouldn't surprise me if it passed.

[redz]

Heres the thing.... man is a man and a woman is a woman mariage is one of each as defined by religious rights. I think it should be equal to mariage but defined as something else. We dont call girls boys because its not fair they are labelled differently do we? 2 different things that should have 2 different names with equal rights.

[MR_T]

bro seriously I don't see why you would care how many people are for or against gay marriages. I picked 'civil union' because I grew up brainwashed by my church but in hindsight its your right, and you should have the right to marry whomever you want. You live in the only country that guaranties the right to the pursuit of happiness.

[DSM4Life]

Heres the thing.... man is a man and a woman is a woman mariage is one of each as defined by religious rights. I think it should be equal to mariage but defined as something else. We dont call girls boys because its not fair they are labelled differently do we? 2 different things that should have 2 different names with equal rights.

You can keep the word "marriage." I don't care what they call it , just give us the same rights. Case closed.

[smokethedays]

bro seriously I don't see why you would care how many people are for or against gay marriages. I picked 'civil union' because I grew up brainwashed by my church but in hindsight its your right, and you should have the right to marry whomever you want. You live in the only country that guaranties the right to the pursuit of happiness.

Yeah, as long as you are a white christian male perhaps.

[gixxerboy1]

You can keep the word "marriage." I don't care what they call it , just give us the same rights. Case closed.

Are you sure? I could get creative

[warchild]

this guy does have a good idea
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155043/

[DSM4Life]

Are you sure? I could get creative

All it would do is amuse me. I am not easily offended like Rulh

[Bojangles69]

I oppose all forms of marraige, gay or straight.

[smokethedays]

i wouldn't wanna offend any one that is homosexual cause ihave friends who are besides the members on here.
But here is wt I think.

before arguing wheather homosexuals should "marry" into each other or not we should ask what is it to be married?

Marriage is just the official procedure of allowing 2 a male and a female to practice sex and produce while not called SINNERS. the church had to say yes before we can have sex with each other and produce children. Hence the word "bastard", other wise this word wouldn't exist. Because some shitty ass document created by a 30k/year clerck is going to make your sexual life with the other person "legal" in the eyes of God and a proof of leal issues for the govt.

So why do we marry?

we can have a GF/BF, live with them, still have children with them and not get struck by God for producing bastards.

Now since Homosexuals CANNOT produce children, why get married?
Just to feel equal to heterosexuals? now thats bullshit, excuse me.

Does that mean that Heteros should turn gays to be equal or something?

Also one annoying notion that is advocated for by homosexuals is that kids brought up by 2 daddys share the same bed unlike 99% of the society or what the kid really learn of TV or friends or sex ed. class are typical normal kids!!!

Some people would say, that is why we have to educate the world!!! and to those I say, the world is bigger than you town buddy!!!

The world is accustomed to norms and traditions through out 1000's of years. and maybe you are the seed of a new change but do'nt argue that it is your right to destroy a childs life by making him the only kid in class with 2 daddys.

Have a BF/GF that is your business but adopting innocent children and expose them issues way beyond the understanding of most adults is too harsh.

[Bojangles69]

They just want it because they can't have it.
I always see my dog chasing rabits, not turtles.

If gays get marraige, its the turtle syndrome 'fvck, I could really care less about this shit'.
But only reason its not allowed is obviously religion. Any law religion controls, is a law that has ceased to evolve with natural human intelligence, and is also a law that can svck my dick - to be blunt.

[smokethedays]

They just want it because they can't have it.
I always see my dog chasing rabits, not turtles.

If gays get marraige, its the turtle syndrome 'fvck, I could really care less about this shit'.
But only reason its not allowed is obviously religion. Any law religion controls, is a law that has ceased to evolve with natural human intelligence, and is also a law that can svck my dick - to be blunt.

I agree

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

**** religion and **** government


its their decision, the end.

[Rugger02]

I agree

I guess I disagree, There are some people in the world that actually love eachother and want to take that love to the next level of total commitment. That's what marriage is. Not an attempt to pacify god because we can't have sex without being married. I married my wife a year ago and she's still my best friend in the world. Did I believe that pre-marital sex was a sin? Yah, sorta. Did I do it anyways? Absolutely.
I don't know what experiences have turned so many of you people so stongly against marriage, but it was probably the single best decision I've ever made in my life...

[DSM4Life]

i wouldn't wanna offend any one that is homosexual cause ihave friends who are besides the members on here.
But here is wt I think.

before arguing wheather homosexuals should "marry" into each other or not we should ask what is it to be married?

Marriage is just the official procedure of allowing 2 a male and a female to practice sex and produce while not called SINNERS. the church had to say yes before we can have sex with each other and produce children. Hence the word "bastard", other wise this word wouldn't exist. Because some shitty ass document created by a 30k/year clerck is going to make your sexual life with the other person "legal" in the eyes of God and a proof of leal issues for the govt.

So why do we marry?

we can have a GF/BF, live with them, still have children with them and not get struck by God for producing bastards.

Now since Homosexuals CANNOT produce children, why get married?

Let me turn that question around on you, Why are heterosexuals entitled to certain "perks" and rights and not homosexuals ?

Also

Are you saying that if a man/women is unable to produce children then they shouldn't get married ?


Just to feel equal to heterosexuals? now thats bullshit, excuse me.

Does that mean that Heteros should turn gays to be equal or something?

Why would they want to do that ? They would LOSE rights !

Also one annoying notion that is advocated for by homosexuals is that kids brought up by 2 daddys share the same bed unlike 99% of the society or what the kid really learn of TV or friends or sex ed. class are typical normal kids!!!

Never heard of this, where is this study , i'd like to see it .

Some people would say, that is why we have to educate the world!!! and to those I say, the world is bigger than you town buddy!!!

The world is accustomed to norms and traditions through out 1000's of years. and maybe you are the seed of a new change but do'nt argue that it is your right to destroy a childs life by making him the only kid in class with 2 daddys.

Already you have the perception that gay couple destroy children. Well let look at some data.

How many children are in foster-care right now ?

According to National Foster Care and Adoption Statistics http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/socwork/n...tatistics.html

* 510,000 = Number of children in foster care on September 30, 2006

* 129,000 = Number of children waiting to be adopted on September 30, 2006

* 51,000 = Number of children adopted from the public foster care system in FY 2006

That means that as of 2006 510,000 heterosexual parents FAILED to be a good parent. This doesn't included children that have ran away from home or children that have died by neglect by the parent.

Now Where is the data showing that homosexual parents are as bar or worse ? I want to see data and references to back it up.


Have a BF/GF that is your business but adopting innocent children and expose them issues way beyond the understanding of most adults is too harsh.

I don't blame you for thinking this way as its a general stereotype about gays. Although i do have to admit that when i read post like this i can't help but to think of you as uneducated. Not in general but when it comes to this subject. Listen, do some research then come back with a response.

[Bojangles69]

I guess I disagree, There are some people in the world that actually love eachother and want to take that love to the next level of total commitment. That's what marriage is. Not an attempt to pacify god because we can't have sex without being married. I married my wife a year ago and she's still my best friend in the world. Did I believe that pre-marital sex was a sin? Yah, sorta. Did I do it anyways? Absolutely.
I don't know what experiences have turned so many of you people so stongly against marriage, but it was probably the single best decision I've ever made in my life...

I just don't see how marraige = commitment.
Its like saying:
A = A
B = B

so A = B, just a flaw of logic imo.

edit: not to say I'm not happy for you, just that I see how marraige can actually ruin a relationship under different circumstances.

[DSM4Life]

They just want it because they can't have it.
I always see my dog chasing rabits, not turtles.

If gays get marraige, its the turtle syndrome 'fvck, I could really care less about this shit'.
But only reason its not allowed is obviously religion. Any law religion controls, is a law that has ceased to evolve with natural human intelligence, and is also a law that can svck my dick - to be blunt.

Would you say this was the same reason why blacks wanted equal rights ?

Come on Bo, maybe i give you more credit than you deserve sometimes.

[gixxerboy1]

i wouldn't wanna offend any one that is homosexual cause ihave friends who are besides the members on here.
But here is wt I think.

before arguing wheather homosexuals should "marry" into each other or not we should ask what is it to be married?

Marriage is just the official procedure of allowing 2 a male and a female to practice sex and produce while not called SINNERS. the church had to say yes before we can have sex with each other and produce children. Hence the word "bastard", other wise this word wouldn't exist. Because some shitty ass document created by a 30k/year clerck is going to make your sexual life with the other person "legal" in the eyes of God and a proof of leal issues for the govt.

So why do we marry?

we can have a GF/BF, live with them, still have children with them and not get struck by God for producing bastards.

Now since Homosexuals CANNOT produce children, why get married?
Just to feel equal to heterosexuals? now thats bullshit, excuse me.

Being married gives you a lot of legal benefits. If you bf and bf or what ever you get none if the following

Being married gives you tax breaks. Being married you can put your spouse under your health insurance. Spouses also have legal rights for health decision in case something bad happened to the other person. Also a spouse can get social security if something happened to the other.

Do you think all that is BS too?

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

I don't blame you for thinking this way as its a general stereotype about gays. Although i do have to admit that when i read post like this i can't help but to think of you as uneducated. Not in general but when it comes to this subject. Listen, do some research then come back with a response.

lol pwned....

[Rugger02]

I just don't see how marraige = commitment.
Its like saying:
A = A
B = B

so A = B, just a flaw of logic imo.

I agree that today's society's views of marriage are bullshit and make marriage pointless. But the reason you think that is because you've never known what it was truly meant to be.
My guess would be tha your parents are not together. You didn't know what a good marriage was while you were growing up.
My parents have been married 31 years and still love eachother like best friends. Therefore marriage means more to me than most.
Personal perspective and interpretation i guess.

[gixxerboy1]

All it would do is amuse me. I am not easily offended like Rulh

You know I'm only kidding. And i know where you are sensitive

[DSM4Life]

You know I'm only kidding. And i know where you are sensitive