Beginner with no experiance,PLEASE HELP!!!

[BUYLONGTERM]

Dear God guys, STOP! If I was that guy asking questions and saw all the BULLSHIT in this thread, I'd never log on again. He wants solid adivce and telling him to take any type of steroid now is NOT good advice. He needs to work on his diet and train naturally for a few more years.

[Reed]

Dear God guys, STOP! If I was that guy asking questions and saw all the BULLSHIT in this thread, I'd never log on again. He wants solid adivce and telling him to take any type of steroid now is NOT good advice. He needs to work on his diet and train naturally for a few more years.

What I have been saying all along. Tell that to PrideFEDOR.

But your right, I'm done here and was immature

[Kratos]

here's the thing on dependence

a 120 pound guy is on the verge of starving all the time or he wouldn't be 120 lbs. He eats enough calories to maintain 120lbs, no more no less. So, he takes some steroids gets up to 130lbs. Now what? He eats enough to maintain 120lbs. His 130lb body uses more than a 120lb body does. So he goes up in weight but, goes down in weight over time. So he does another cycle to get back to 130. It's not healthy.

Guys who give good diet advise are hard to come by. No need to make enemies so soon. And, reed is huge in case you wanted to know.

[PrideFEDOR]

here's the thing on dependence

a 120 pound guy is on the verge of starving all the time or he wouldn't be 120 lbs. He eats enough calories to maintain 120lbs, no more no less. So, he takes some steroids gets up to 130lbs. Now what? He eats enough to maintain 120lbs. His 130lb body uses more than a 120lb body does. So he goes up in weight but, goes down in weight over time. So he does another cycle to get back to 130. It's not healthy.

Guys who give good diet advise are hard to come by. No need to make enemies so soon. And, reed is huge in case you wanted to know.

I see what u saying, but how come a guy who weights 250 lbs eats less than 120lbs guy and still able to keep up the weight ? Im telling u bro, I have a friend. I fed him nice , everything I ate- he ate and his total gain was 5 lbs when my was 22lbs. He gained 10 and lost 5 and I gained 30 and lost 7.

[legobricks]

I see what u saying, but how come a guy who weights 250 lbs eats less than 120lbs guy and still able to keep up the weight ? Im telling u bro, I have a friend. I fed him nice , everything I ate- he ate and his total gain was 5 lbs when my was 22lbs. He gained 10 and lost 5 and I gained 30 and lost 7.

And that is because GENETICS play a huge role. Just like i probably cant be an IFBB pro bodybuilder and you can, do you see what i mean? Everyones body is different and reacts differently no matter what supplements/illegal substances you take.

[PrideFEDOR]

And that is because GENETICS play a huge role. Just like i probably cant be an IFBB pro bodybuilder and you can, do you see what i mean? Everyones body is different and reacts differently no matter what supplements/illegal substances you take.

I agree with you LEGO In my respond to KRATOS i said the same thing . GENETICS ! Im not an advocate to give everyone steroids - no . HEalthy adults - YES ! 27 year old is an adult. 120lbs .........Well , its less than average , but he's not going to grow- neither his genetics or food help that much at his age. I dont know what REED thinks but for an average male to keep 120lbs body frame is impossible ( and to be healthy of course). I believe the smallest boxing weight category is 124lbs right now. And those dudes run around like ants hitting each other for 12 rounds without breathing hard. They dont walk around at that weight. In order to "eat" that weight for an average adult, one will end up with all kinds of stomach and intestines / gastro problems. Plus he had stuff on hand . Let him use those prohormones - even though its not a real thing, but it'll make him understand how cycling works. He also has PCT on hand which he can finish with. I dont think I said something that wasn't right imo.

[Littlebudda]

I just want to know PLease Help

[SampsonandDelilah]

The OP has only been training for a year...that's a short amount of time IMO. He should at least train another year, with quality dieting and maybe go get his test levels checked (just in case). I agree, that this dude shoud not have been flamed for weighing 120 lbs (or compared to a girls weight) not encouraging at all. He does need information, but needs to invest the proper time seeking it out. Who knows what his diet or his ROUTINE are like, maybe the guys has been doing the same lousy "exercises" for a year and can't figure out why he hasn't seen any gains. That coupled with the fact that we know nothing of what he's eating.
He's probably freaked out now to return, because of all the flaming and bickering that his OP created. IMO I don't think this dude should just go popping orals (real or not) after only working at it for a year (and who knows what he's been doing in that year)
The correct guidance can only be given with more info from the OP....but enough of the bickering fellas...keep it bro-hymn!

[PrideFEDOR]

Ok fellas, if two of you press me like that , I guess LittleBudda isn't gonna have any for a while

[Littlebudda]

Hi Sorry Everyone.I just came back from work.Yes,I am only 120Lb guy.I was about 110Lb a year ago before I joined the GYM.All the reply made me pretty sad.I guess I am going to put all my steroid away and eat more for more years.Anyway I moved to United State when I was 18.In asia most of the guy are my size.Compair to white guys I am a joke.Thank you all. PS...PLease tell me what kind of stuff should I eat?

[SampsonandDelilah]

You're no joke bro!!! Just keep at it...stay determined...be patient!! It can and will happen!! Really work on the dieting and your work-out routine....check both forums for information (and stash the "supplements" you bought in your closet for another day down the road). Post your diet and workout regimine...and don't listen to the haters!!

[Littlebudda]

I used to work out 5 days a week.Now 3 day because I think too much exercies will burn fat and not good for gaining weight.My diet is I eat anything I can.

[Reed]

Yes this is more than likely where you are going wrong. You need to follow a specific diet plain with the right amount of protein/carbs/fats in order to grow. As you have been told steroids are not a magic pill and will not allow you to gain a decent amount of muscle without proper nutrition and training.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010 <----- Start here rearrange your diet to fit your needs and then post in the diet thread and we have a lot of good knowledgeable guys that will help you along the way

[Littlebudda]

I think I really need a good diet plan.How much protein,carb and fat should I eat a day.What kind of food have a lot of protein?

[Reed]

Its really hard to tell you exactly due to the fact I we need to know your activity level. The link I posted will provide you with a good calculation of what needs to be done. Go ahead and look into the link i posted and start reading. Don't worry you have plenty of time to get everything in order. The process of gaining muscle is a trial and error process but with proper knowledge and good guidance we can limit the error. Also obtain a good workout regiment and follow that of course.

[Reed]

Littlebudda- I'm about to go hit the gym for some squats but my recommendations real quick would be for to get in about

Carbs- 300g
Protein-175-200g
Fats-80-100g

which should be in the range of 2400-2700 calories depending on the food you eat at about 6 meals a day

Good protein source: eggs, fish, lean red meats, poultry, milk, low fat cottage cheese
Good carb sources- whole grains, fruits, oats, red potatos, sweet potatos,
Good fat sources- fish oil, nuts, avocados, flax seeds& oil, fish it self

In your case I'd do about 2-3 meals of red meat and get on a good supplement regiment with creatine, multivitamin, 0mega-3s fish oils, and a good joint supplement. We can add into it if you'd like. Follow that suggested intake requirements and design a meal program for yourself then post it in the diet forum and people will help you along. Its best to learn this for your self. Like they say give a man a fish he eats for a day teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime. I'll be back later on. Good luck friend

[Littlebudda]

Thank you so much for your diet plan.I will try to stick with your plan and see what happen.Thank you for your time again.