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    Lets go hardcore,if you got the time read this!

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    Wow great read Goose, Fantastic.

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    Wow great read Goose, Fantastic.
    I know its shocking,I have checked sources and its accurate.

    This is the full deeper study.I could not believe it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    Lets go hardcore,if you got the time read this!

    http://www.rense.com/general34/amaz.htm

    I wonder where you got this link?

    You dirty Jew! haha
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    mad max read it and go slow...

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    do you know the liniage(sp) of the arabs do some research on that subject... that will tell you alot... look for where they came from

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    do you know the liniage(sp) of the arabs do some research on that subject... that will tell you alot... look for where they came from
    So now its the problem of who came from where?!!

    apparently you are missing the point here sir, the read is arguing the false claims by the "Jews" about Palestine being their land while it is simply not.

    Your ignorance making you generalize Arabs as whole, we are talking about Israeli Jews and Israel as a state, not Jews in general. Arabs have Christians, Muslims, and Jews amongst them.

    So stop arguing out of subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Cool avatar Smoke..
    thx.

    Believe it or not, I wore that around my neck, I got dirty looks from some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays View Post
    thx.

    Believe it or not, I wore that around my neck, I got dirty looks from some people.
    its very popular in spain and in europe in general. its both used by lefties and by righties. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays View Post
    Israel is butchering the Palestinians while the entire world is watching with an American/Egyptian green light.

    That is a sad day for mankind. When a city is been under siege for months and months until food, medicine, power, and clean water became as scarce as never. Hospitals are overwhelmed and don't have enough supplies to face the massacre commited by Israel against innocents.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/***1662.stm

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...814984286.html

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    thats not off subject it is the reason for all the issues in the middle east and will be till the time comes ... hey dont get mad about it, i have some very good friends from the middle east...

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    thats not off subject it is the reason for all the issues in the middle east and will be till the time comes ... hey dont get mad about it, i have some very good friends from the middle east...
    Im not mad at all brother, I just feel frustrated when people argue using the BS propaganda you find anywhere on American TV like CNN or FOX.

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    are you in the middle east? or from some where over there?

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    sorry one more thing about the jews - get ready cause the migration to israel is going to be huge over the next few years, i think they have migrated some 3 million people back to israel... expect them to take back the gaza strip and maybe even more... dont be suprised if china jumps in to help as well... and dont get mad at me about it, i dont tell the jews where to shoot their rockets or what land to call their own... i do study how it all came about and trully belive that each side has to come to some kind of peace about all of it... but as you and i know they absolutly will not !!! boom boom goes the night!!! sadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    sorry one more thing about the jews - get ready cause the migration to israel is going to be huge over the next few years, i think they have migrated some 3 million people back to israel... expect them to take back the gaza strip and maybe even more... dont be suprised if china jumps in to help as well... and dont get mad at me about it, i dont tell the jews where to shoot their rockets or what land to call their own... i do study how it all came about and trully belive that each side has to come to some kind of peace about all of it... but as you and i know they absolutly will not !!! boom boom goes the night!!! sadly
    With all respect to your opinion, and like I said before, the only side needs to compromise is Israel. Palestinians compromised 80% of their land so far, what else do you want them to compromise?!! They got nothing to offer!!

    Just to open your eyes on something here man, what you guys here and see on the news and the internet is BULLSHIT.

    I lived in the mid east for long, I have friends who managed to escape Gaza strip, these people are not even allowed to LEAVE to go to other Arab countries to attend college my friend.

    Israel locked these people down in their own land and houses, Israel is telling these people what they can and cannot do. How fair is that?

    How would you like it to be told that you cannot leave the country, you cannot go to school, you cannot dream of a better life, you cannot, you cannot, you just cannot anything.

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    Man, so much misinformation out there, no wonder the opinions are all over the map.

    This has not been going for thousands of years. Jewish migration to Palestine began in the early 1900's to escape increasing anti-semitisim in europe. Palestinians welcomed them and lived together in peace for the most part. Then, migration increased in the tens and hundreds of thousands by the 1930's, which led to the first real Palestinian revolt in 1936. By the 1940's, and as a major result of the holocaust, jewish migration was larger than ever, and the western world was feeling bad for the jews who now need a new homeland. The UN decided to partition Palestine in 1947, and the Palestinians refused. The 1948 war took place, and powered by British and American money and arms, the jews were able to establish the state of Israel. The rest is history.

    People tend to try to save the boat by shoveling water buckets, instead of looking for the hole to patch it. Let's all examine the source of the problem before we can solve it.

    It is true that Hamas has been firing rockets daily since the expiration of the cease-fire one week ago, but has anyone wondered why? Could it be the fact that for the past 3 years Gaza has been the largest open-air prison on earth? Where 1.5 million people have been fenced in by concrete walls and sniper towers; where unemployment reaches over 70%, and poverty is the norm; where basic life essentials like water (clean or dirty), electricity, and food have been forbidden...Do you think that would drive you to fire a rocket?

    Get real. Palestinian are one of the most oppressed people on earth. Like it or not, it is one of the major conflicts in the world that is shaping current politics. Isreal invaded a land they don't deserve, killed, raped, and pillaged, and created 8 million refugees. The "lucky" few who remained inside are facing living conditions that are atrocious.

    Isreal is the one refusing peace. Most of the Palestinian (and Israeli) public wants to live in one democratic nation where both peoples can co-exist. Zionist Israelis, however, want a jewish-only country. That just blows my mind that it's going on. I bet you 100 years from now, people will view this situation in the same eye we view "no coloreds allowed" signs on white businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 48volts View Post
    Man, so much misinformation out there, no wonder the opinions are all over the map.

    This has not been going for thousands of years. Jewish migration to Palestine began in the early 1900's to escape increasing anti-semitisim in europe. Palestinians welcomed them and lived together in peace for the most part. Then, migration increased in the tens and hundreds of thousands by the 1930's, which led to the first real Palestinian revolt in 1936. By the 1940's, and as a major result of the holocaust, jewish migration was larger than ever, and the western world was feeling bad for the jews who now need a new homeland. The UN decided to partition Palestine in 1947, and the Palestinians refused. The 1948 war took place, and powered by British and American money and arms, the jews were able to establish the state of Israel. The rest is history.

    People tend to try to save the boat by shoveling water buckets, instead of looking for the hole to patch it. Let's all examine the source of the problem before we can solve it.

    It is true that Hamas has been firing rockets daily since the expiration of the cease-fire one week ago, but has anyone wondered why? Could it be the fact that for the past 3 years Gaza has been the largest open-air prison on earth? Where 1.5 million people have been fenced in by concrete walls and sniper towers; where unemployment reaches over 70%, and poverty is the norm; where basic life essentials like water (clean or dirty), electricity, and food have been forbidden...Do you think that would drive you to fire a rocket?

    Get real. Palestinian are one of the most oppressed people on earth. Like it or not, it is one of the major conflicts in the world that is shaping current politics. Isreal invaded a land they don't deserve, killed, raped, and pillaged, and created 8 million refugees. The "lucky" few who remained inside are facing living conditions that are atrocious.

    Isreal is the one refusing peace. Most of the Palestinian (and Israeli) public wants to live in one democratic nation where both peoples can co-exist. Zionist Israelis, however, want a jewish-only country. That just blows my mind that it's going on. I bet you 100 years from now, people will view this situation in the same eye we view "no coloreds allowed" signs on white businesses.
    I guess that just about sums it up, great post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48volts View Post
    Man, so much misinformation out there, no wonder the opinions are all over the map.

    This has not been going for thousands of years. Jewish migration to Palestine began in the early 1900's to escape increasing anti-semitisim in europe. Palestinians welcomed them and lived together in peace for the most part. Then, migration increased in the tens and hundreds of thousands by the 1930's, which led to the first real Palestinian revolt in 1936. By the 1940's, and as a major result of the holocaust, jewish migration was larger than ever, and the western world was feeling bad for the jews who now need a new homeland. The UN decided to partition Palestine in 1947, and the Palestinians refused. The 1948 war took place, and powered by British and American money and arms, the jews were able to establish the state of Israel. The rest is history.

    People tend to try to save the boat by shoveling water buckets, instead of looking for the hole to patch it. Let's all examine the source of the problem before we can solve it.

    It is true that Hamas has been firing rockets daily since the expiration of the cease-fire one week ago, but has anyone wondered why? Could it be the fact that for the past 3 years Gaza has been the largest open-air prison on earth? Where 1.5 million people have been fenced in by concrete walls and sniper towers; where unemployment reaches over 70%, and poverty is the norm; where basic life essentials like water (clean or dirty), electricity, and food have been forbidden...Do you think that would drive you to fire a rocket?

    Get real. Palestinian are one of the most oppressed people on earth. Like it or not, it is one of the major conflicts in the world that is shaping current politics. Isreal invaded a land they don't deserve, killed, raped, and pillaged, and created 8 million refugees. The "lucky" few who remained inside are facing living conditions that are atrocious.

    Isreal is the one refusing peace. Most of the Palestinian (and Israeli) public wants to live in one democratic nation where both peoples can co-exist. Zionist Israelis, however, want a jewish-only country. That just blows my mind that it's going on. I bet you 100 years from now, people will view this situation in the same eye we view "no coloreds allowed" signs on white businesses.

    Sounds like the muslims moving into Europe right now doesn't it?? all they need is arms and support from ??? Seria?? just an observation, those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    Sounds like the muslims moving into Europe right now doesn't it?? all they need is arms and support from ??? Seria?? just an observation, those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it..
    Arabs don't want to leave thier land my friend, if you are interested in Anthropology you'll know that Arabs are nationalists, meaning they do not like to be away from their home land.

    Now to answer your comment on Arabs and Muslims moving to Europe, that is not by choice, review the last 4-5 decades or the Arabs history and you will find it.

    After the collapse of the Ottoman empire and after the English, Italian, and French empires divided the Middle East amongst them as if they inhireted the damn land from there fathers.

    The national governments were INSTALLED by these empires to some extend, these corrupted governments oppressed their people just like the occupying empires did or worse.

    What would you do?

    My friend, up to 50 years ago in Egypt for example, you cannot go to any school you want, you cannot go to the military school either.
    You have to have a permisson from a fvckin' English officer to join your own country's military or go to school.

    The truth is that Europe is resposible for most of whats going on in the Middle East now. Europe divided the land, Eroupe exploited the people, Europe and specifically England promised the Jews "their promise land" through Balfour Promise.

    What the fvck does England have to do wit Palestine to promise it to the Jews, how did that happen?!

    what you said sound like like this: Why is my dog runnig away to the neighboors house and barking and bitting them, allI did is beat him up, starve him, and tried to make him sing
    I really think the last to blame are the Arabs my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48volts View Post
    Man, so much misinformation out there, no wonder the opinions are all over the map.

    This has not been going for thousands of years. Jewish migration to Palestine began in the early 1900's to escape increasing anti-semitisim in europe. Palestinians welcomed them and lived together in peace for the most part. Then, migration increased in the tens and hundreds of thousands by the 1930's, which led to the first real Palestinian revolt in 1936. By the 1940's, and as a major result of the holocaust, jewish migration was larger than ever, and the western world was feeling bad for the jews who now need a new homeland. The UN decided to partition Palestine in 1947, and the Palestinians refused. The 1948 war took place, and powered by British and American money and arms, the jews were able to establish the state of Israel. The rest is history.

    People tend to try to save the boat by shoveling water buckets, instead of looking for the hole to patch it. Let's all examine the source of the problem before we can solve it.

    It is true that Hamas has been firing rockets daily since the expiration of the cease-fire one week ago, but has anyone wondered why? Could it be the fact that for the past 3 years Gaza has been the largest open-air prison on earth? Where 1.5 million people have been fenced in by concrete walls and sniper towers; where unemployment reaches over 70%, and poverty is the norm; where basic life essentials like water (clean or dirty), electricity, and food have been forbidden...Do you think that would drive you to fire a rocket?

    Get real. Palestinian are one of the most oppressed people on earth. Like it or not, it is one of the major conflicts in the world that is shaping current politics. Isreal invaded a land they don't deserve, killed, raped, and pillaged, and created 8 million refugees. The "lucky" few who remained inside are facing living conditions that are atrocious.

    Isreal is the one refusing peace. Most of the Palestinian (and Israeli) public wants to live in one democratic nation where both peoples can co-exist. Zionist Israelis, however, want a jewish-only country. That just blows my mind that it's going on. I bet you 100 years from now, people will view this situation in the same eye we view "no coloreds allowed" signs on white businesses.
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48volts View Post
    Man, so much misinformation out there, no wonder the opinions are all over the map.

    This has not been going for thousands of years. Jewish migration to Palestine began in the early 1900's to escape increasing anti-semitisim in europe. Palestinians welcomed them and lived together in peace for the most part. Then, migration increased in the tens and hundreds of thousands by the 1930's, which led to the first real Palestinian revolt in 1936. By the 1940's, and as a major result of the holocaust, jewish migration was larger than ever, and the western world was feeling bad for the jews who now need a new homeland. The UN decided to partition Palestine in 1947, and the Palestinians refused. The 1948 war took place, and powered by British and American money and arms, the jews were able to establish the state of Israel. The rest is history.

    People tend to try to save the boat by shoveling water buckets, instead of looking for the hole to patch it. Let's all examine the source of the problem before we can solve it.

    It is true that Hamas has been firing rockets daily since the expiration of the cease-fire one week ago, but has anyone wondered why? Could it be the fact that for the past 3 years Gaza has been the largest open-air prison on earth? Where 1.5 million people have been fenced in by concrete walls and sniper towers; where unemployment reaches over 70%, and poverty is the norm; where basic life essentials like water (clean or dirty), electricity, and food have been forbidden...Do you think that would drive you to fire a rocket?

    Get real. Palestinian are one of the most oppressed people on earth. Like it or not, it is one of the major conflicts in the world that is shaping current politics. Isreal invaded a land they don't deserve, killed, raped, and pillaged, and created 8 million refugees. The "lucky" few who remained inside are facing living conditions that are atrocious.

    Isreal is the one refusing peace. Most of the Palestinian (and Israeli) public wants to live in one democratic nation where both peoples can co-exist. Zionist Israelis, however, want a jewish-only country. That just blows my mind that it's going on. I bet you 100 years from now, people will view this situation in the same eye we view "no coloreds allowed" signs on white businesses.
    Finally some educated post :thumbup:

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    i will post why this has been going on for thousands of years... just to late to do so and i have to pull out two books to do so and get acurate info... tomorrow night all - and lets pray for the soles over their that they do get peace...

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    i will tie this all to gather:
    1 - israel "took" land away from someone - it was their to start
    2 - y usa and europe support israel
    3 - where a certian civilations came from

    ... got a go do back now

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    i will tie this all to gather:
    1 - israel "took" land away from someone - it was their to start WRONG Arabs coexisted on that land for many years and at one point there were more Arabs than Jews
    2 - y usa and europe support israel Because of the religious belief of the second coming of Christ will only happen when the chosen people (Jews) return to their homeland
    3 - where a certian civilations came from

    ... got a go do back now
    These are a lot of misnomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    i will tie this all to gather:
    1 - israel "took" land away from someone - it was their to start
    2 - y usa and europe support israel
    3 - where a certian civilations came from

    ... got a go do back now
    Maaan you are really unaware of history body.

    1- does that mean the Native American should fight you and get their land back? are you saying they have the right to kill you and rape your mother and sister?

    2-US and Europe donnot support Israel, they have to show that to keep thier economic systems stable. Since Jews own the world's banking system my smart well informed friend

    3- I really have no answer for such question, its meaningless.

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    I feel it is important to point out that the Israeli leaders are hardcore Zionist and what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians is what the Germans do to the Jews back in the 30’s… But the difference is the Israelis are backed by the U.S. because of religious belief systems. This could turn out ugly…

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    Here is a documentary explaining the Israeli Oppression to the Palestinians

    Watch it and learn something….



    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...umentary&hl=en
    Last edited by Fat Guy; 12-30-2008 at 12:48 PM.

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    ^^ another short sightedness on the part of US diplomats (and citizens) and a very good point.... although not wholley responsible for discontent in middle east a huge factor that should not be overlooked...again great point
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    Correct me if I am wrong because I am no biblical scholar but didnt the Jews take Israel from the Canaanites many thousands of years ago and settled there. Only to be conquered and pushed out by Babylon, the Persians, Greeks, Romes and Ottman Turks, and probably a few others I am forgetting about in between only to see the dominate power fall. So because the Arabs were the latest to conquer Israel if you will that makes it their land?

    Just a question, because I do not understand why anyone hates the jews. I can understand the Canaanites but they have not been around for thousands of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong because I am no biblical scholar but didnt the Jews take Israel from the Canaanites many thousands of years ago and settled there. Only to be conquered and pushed out by Babylon, the Persians, Greeks, Romes and Ottman Turks, and probably a few others I am forgetting about in between only to see the dominate power fall. So because the Arabs were the latest to conquer Israel if you will that makes it their land?

    Just a question, because I do not understand why anyone hates the jews. I can understand the Canaanites but they have not been around for thousands of years.
    That is the problem here, no one here hates the Jews, at least not me. My GF is Jewish for god's sake.

    I hate Israel and their doings, thats all.
    Besides lets go through the hisotrical land issue, suppose all that you just said is correct.
    now after 1000's of years the Jews decide to claim where they lived (not their land, no ones land, they just lived there)
    But oops, there are people living here now, there are churches and mosques, an entire population is here.

    Ok lets be sneaky as we always been (the Jews) and migrate their slowly, offer these poor peasants money for thier field and land way more than its worth. No lets form some sort of a ganag (the Hagganah) and steel some more land (not pay for it) and that is where the 1st clashes happened.
    form some sort of colony of the land we bought/stole.
    Now the fights get larger and become a war, ans the Jews steal more land and declare a state How do you like this scenario?

    If the Jews were honest about just finiding peace and escaping the hatred in Europe why did they have to do what they did? fight the Palestinians for their land after the Palestinians welcomed them?
    The Jews took advantage and called upon all the Jews in the world to go back to the "promise land" and fight the Arabs who welcomed them after being exterminated and exploited in Europe.

    They could have just lived peacefully, Jews always lived amogst Muslims and Arabs before the rise of Israel with no issues. Up until now there are temples in Egypt for the Jews.

    The Jews have always been a part of the Arab community until the rise of shit state Israel. They were never oppressed until the Jews in Palestine started killing the Palestinians, then the Arabs didn't want them anymore, check the history brother. These are facts not fiction like 99% of the Israeli tales.

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    Jews left that land a couple of thousands of years ago. They then spread all over the world, mainly in europe, as well as ethiopia, and other arab countries like yaman and iraq. They have not been in there for a long long time. In the early 1900's before jewish migration started to get crazy, the population in palestine was 90% muslim, 5% christian, and 5% jewish. They all co-existed in peace until the jewish ambitions got unrealistic.

    the jews literally came in there 60-80 years ago and started killing, burning, and raping, and they settled in the land. Thousand of Palestinians still have their house keys that jews reside in now after they kicked out the residents and sent them to refugee camps.

    Yeah, I think that would make it their land.

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    yeah i dont think the original occupation theory holds a lot of water i mean look at the roman empire....the huns....the turks .....the persians...the macedonians ...france under napoleon ...spanish occupation of entire southern hemisphere ...later the english .....would the unlawful occupation of previously held land be justified in those cases as well ? the guise of religon is being used as the foundation and justification for out and out crimes against humanity.....no better than the holocaust that they (jewish people) were victims of themselves....

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    yeah i dont think the original occupation theory holds a lot of water i mean look at the roman empire....the huns....the turks .....the persians...the macedonians ...france under napoleon ...spanish occupation of entire southern hemisphere ...later the english .....would the unlawful occupation of previously held land be justified in those cases as well ? the guise of religon is being used as the foundation and justification for out and out crimes against humanity.....no better than the holocaust that they (jewish people) were victims of themselves....
    nice post bro.

    Now the Jews are throughing the Palestinians in a Jewish made holocaust.

    They locked Gaza down to experiment how much can the Palestinians survive with out medical care, energy, food and other life neccessities.

    Palestinians are back 100's of years ago to use wood for cooking and energy and light, herbs for medicine, and wild plants for food.

    This isn't BS check it.

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    Check out Hamas soldiers like Israel claims

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    This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue.

    The Canaanites:

    The Canaanites are historically acknowledged as the first inhabitants of the Land of Israel, before the Hebrews settled there. Indeed, the correct geographic name of the Land of Israel is Canaan, not "Palestine" (a Roman invention, as we will see later). They were composed by different tribes, that may be distinguished in two main groups: the Northern or Coastland Canaanites and the Southern or Mountain Canaanites.
    ·The Northern Canaanites settled along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea from the southeastern side of the Gulf of Iskenderun to the proximities of the Gulf of Hayfa. Their main cities were Tzur, Tzidon, Gebal (Byblos), Arvad, Ugarit, and are better known in history by their Greek name Phoenicians, but they called themselves "Kana'ana" or "Kinachnu". They did not found any unified kingdom but were organized in self-ruled cities, and were not a warlike people but rather skilful traders, seafarers and builders. Their language was adopted from their Semitic neighbours, the Arameans, and was closely related to Hebrew (not to Arabic!). Phoenicians and Israelites did not need interpreters to understand each other. They followed the same destiny of ancient Israel and fell under Assyrian rule, then Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian, Seleucian and Roman. Throughout their history the Phoenicians intermarried with different peoples that dwelled in their land, mainly Greeks and Armenians. During the Islamic expansion they were Arabized, yet, never completely assimilated, and their present-day state is Lebanon, erroneously regarded as an "Arab" country, a label that the Lebanese people reject. Unlike the Arab states, Lebanon has a western democratic-style official name, "Lebanese Republic", without the essential adjective "Arab" that is required in the denominations of every Arab state. The only mention of the term Arabic in the Lebanese constitution refers to the official language of the state, which does not mean that the Lebanese people are Arabs in the same way as the official language of the United States is English but this does not qualify the Americans as British.
    The so-called Palestinians are not Lebanese (although some of them came from Syrian-occupied Lebanon), therefore they are not Phoenicians (Northern Canaanites). Actually, in Lebanon they are "refugees" and are not identified with the local people.
    ·The Southern Canaanites dwelled in the mountain region from the Golan southwards, on both sides of the Yarden and along the Mediterranean coast from the Gulf of Hayfa to Yafo, that is the Biblical Canaan. They were composed by various tribes of different stocks: besides the proper Canaanites (Phoenicians), there were Amorites, Hittites and Hurrian peoples like the Yevusites, Hivvites and Horites, all of them assimilated into the Aramean-Canaanite context. They never constituted an unified, organized state but kept within the tribal ******** system

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    Watch this documentary...

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...umentary&hl=en

    BTW... It does not matter the history of a people who are being oppressed but the only thing that matters is that the oppression stops ….

    I think the question here you have to ask is…. Why would a person throw a rock at an armored tank or do a suicide bombing as a political statement… there has to be some real reasons why someone would do that and this is not an isolated case with the Palestinians. This is not just religious fundamentalism… It’s about power & oppression over a people and what would you do if you were being oppressed? Fight Back.

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    Fat guy, I agree with you completely. I finally joined this board just so I can post a comment on this thread...this is after years of being part of this community from the outside. That by itself should show how this issue has so many of our emotions involved.
    I believe there is a lot of misinformation here...and most of the misinformation is bring put out by news media in order to hide the crimes committed by the state of Israel in the "Occupied Territories"
    1) Gaza is basically a concentration camp formed and ruled by the Zionist State.
    It is a place where more then million Palestinians from all over Palestine were forcefully moved to. Then Israel basically closed of all the borders to this concentration camp in order to break the will of the palestinian people. Even basic necessities such as food and medicine were not allowed to enter Gaza. People of Gaza suffered and the fought back against this injustice by lashing out home made rockets towards Israel. This was to show their desperation and will to fight back....it was more symbolic then anything else because even as of few days ago the number of Israelies killed by these rockets was 1! Now the number has moved up to 4....but the launching of the rockets into Israel was the palestinians way of showing their will to struggle against their occupiers and opperasors.
    Here is the basic truth. And Not even the Zionists can disagree with this truth. All the they try to do is to change the subject and hide the facts. The state of Israel has both Arabs and Jews living within its borders. Both have histroical roots in the land...but why is it that the palestinians are not allowed to vote? Why are they not allowed to move freely in the land of their forefathers? Why do they not have a voice within the land which they have lived for thousands of years. Now Israel has two choices...either to allow the palestinians to vote...or to allow them to have a separate state. But unfortunately Israled refused to allow arabs within its territories to vote or have any kind of voice in the goverment...and at the same time it is unwilling to allow them to have their own palestinian state. This is the root of the problem
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    Well,,, you keep poking a tiger with a stick and it will bite back, they knew exactly what Isreal would do...

    How would America react if someone was launching rockets into there country... uhhh

    Least they have the balls to know that talk talk talk doesn't work all the times and they have the balls to not take sh*t.

    If there is going to be a jehad or whatever, let get it over with......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Older lifter View Post
    Well,,, you keep poking a tiger with a stick and it will bite back, they knew exactly what Isreal would do...

    How would America react if someone was launching rockets into there country... uhhh

    Least they have the balls to know that talk talk talk doesn't work all the times and they have the balls to not take sh*t.

    If there is going to be a jehad or whatever, let get it over with......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Older lifter View Post
    Well,,, you keep poking a tiger with a stick and it will bite back, they knew exactly what Isreal would do...

    How would America react if someone was launching rockets into there country... uhhh

    Least they have the balls to know that talk talk talk doesn't work all the times and they have the balls to not take sh*t.

    If there is going to be a jehad or whatever, let get it over with......
    Wow bro you are way off.

    The Jews stole and continue to steal the Palestinians lands, demolish their homes to build new homes for Jewish immigrants.

    How would America like it if a Muslim comes to your home with a buldozer and demolish your home on your family inside to build his house, just because he is more powerful than you?

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