I just want you to consider the idea that many people walk by FAITH. no convincing is needed, if they believe that is all they need. I'm never ever going to take a side or try to "prove" a case, but remember that some people need the idea that there is a reason, and a better place. And if they choose to believe that, then I see no reason to bother them.
many people feel that way, and i myself love proving/disproving. you are deeply into physics and astro-stuff, so i see this being extremely hard for you to consider. but that is simply the truth, that people are devout to a belief, and i myself wish i could follow something, anything with the passion that many people do with their religious beliefs.
So do you believe that if you cannot prove something exists, then it must not exist? This is flawed logic. Did North and South America not exist before we discovered it? Did Pluto not exist before we proved it did through telescopes? Does a thing come into being simply after one has proved it exists? If Columbus believed that North America existed, and he put his faith in that belief, would you laugh at him? Well, he did eventually land in North America. (I know that he had intended to go to India; I'm just giving a hypothetical.) In the same way, we put our faith in the belief in God (just as Columbus might put his faith in the belief that the world is round)...
We theists believe that the reality of God will become apparent at a future time just like Pluto did not become apparent until a certain time. Would you think that before man had telescopes that it would have been justified for some people to laugh at others for believing in the existence of Pluto?
What doesn't make sense about believing in God? In fact, I think it makes quite a bit of sense, considering that it is you who cannot properly explain what was the origin of the universe. If you say gasses came together in the Big Bang, then where did those gasses come from? If you say those gasses came from atoms or whatever, then I'd ask where did those atoms come from? If you said they came from neutrons and protons, I'd ask where did those come from? You couldn't actually explain this, so the belief of God is one possible explanation. One possible explanation is just as good--if not better--than no possible explanation at all.that's ludicrous, if it doesn't make sense logically then it's most likely false
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buff said cycle.....lol
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I just wanted to add something to my last post. At most, atheists can say that we have failed to reject the null hypothesis. They cannot, however, claim that we have proven the null hypothesis or that they have proven the alternate hypothesis to be rejected.
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I haven't seen any conclusive evidence to disprove or prove god. I believe the answer is not knowable.
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Grab a refreshment, a comfy chair and read this:
http://www.kent-hovind.com/theory.htm
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Exactly. That's why when our souls are resurrected and all of the Unseen will be seen, it will be too late for someone to declare himself a believer. It will not be counted as faith.
As Jesus is quoted in the Bible: "Blessed art those who have not seen and yet believed." (John, forgot which verse number)
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I was raised catholic. I "say" that I am catholic so I dont upset my grandma and other family members. My parents know, but my grandma probably couldnt handle that and I am just looking out for her.
I believe in God but I am not catholic. I actually do believe in Christ and God, but I cant fathom how people could be part of an organized religion at this point in time.
Faith is a funny thing isn't it. Why does ones faith usually match their parents?
There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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Hmm, the subject of the conversation was why did our faith usually reflect our parents. I made no statement regarding your values. If you have good values then I would venture your parents did. Just a hypothesis....and for some their faith helps form their values...
AG
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There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?
End of thread.
Take your religious hocus pocus elsewhere.
There is nothing wrong with having faith and being religious, especially if it helps you in whatever ways.
What is wrong is when people start confusing it with science.
My question is who made GOD?
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once again, we see disrespectful comments about peoples beliefs
Bigotry i guess is the in thing now...
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