taking vicoden on cycle

[Phate]

thats from histamine release. take an anti-histamine and problem solved.

lol, so the diphen you have left over from a clen cycle would be perfect now

[JiGGaMaN]

yea that crossed my mind also, but im already drowsy from the vic's, if i add an anti-histamine, it'll put me to sleep

claratin (loratadine) and other non-drowsy anti-histamines are available. in fact, most of the sedating anti-histamines (hydroxyzine, promethazine, doxylamine) arent even available in 99% of pharmacies ive been to.

[rksdmf]

just so u know and im just putting this out there, two friends of mine that used gear both died from mixing opiates with gear, both went to sleep and didnt wake up.....

not saying it will happen to you, but in honor of them i feel i have to put it out there....

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ they may have died from the opiates...but not the mixture bro....

[lovbyts]

OK you guys had me worried at first. I have been taking Vicodine off and on, mostly on for a few years due to herniated disks, 2 back surgeries. Not addicted, just needed to deal with the pain. I might do a fusion soon to reduce, hopefully illuminate the pain.

[bluesman]

great post man... that's just good karma comin back my way

appreciate it...

but for the tooth pulling, im sure i wont be able to eat well for a coupla days and im mid cycle right now with 6 weeks left... dont wanna risk it (gonna try to ride it out)

My pleasure.

You could try chewing lightly on some raw ginger root. Just spit it out after. It has localized anti bacterial and anti inflammatory properties. For a not so natural choice, "anbesol" found at any drug store would also take the edge off....

Hey, I could use a little bit of good karma. I went in for a physical to get myself prepped up and checked out for working out again, and the doc discovered a hernia (abdominal). Just got the surgery three days ago. Walking without pain only today, no lifting for 3 months.... SSHHHIIIIIITTTT!!

[BG]

Vic's keep me up and also make me weaker in the gym. Plus not a good idea to take with AS, very heptatoxic.

[jamyjamjr]

My pleasure.

You could try chewing lightly on some raw ginger root. Just spit it out after. It has localized anti bacterial and anti inflammatory properties. For a not so natural choice, "anbesol" found at any drug store would also take the edge off....

Hey, I could use a little bit of good karma. I went in for a physical to get myself prepped up and checked out for working out again, and the doc discovered a hernia (abdominal). Just got the surgery three days ago. Walking without pain only today, no lifting for 3 months.... SSHHHIIIIIITTTT!!

looks like i need to be counting my blessing man... that shit sucks

[dehydromethandrotren]

lol wut?

I thought ibuprofen was the only pain reliever that inhibited protein synthesis, that is partially the debate correct?

Any studies confirming this?

[roserose]

All opiates will lower natural testosterone production while in the body. Not permanently. Your levels are already suppressed by the cycle so it shouldn't matter. Its dose dependent too...so a couple vicodin at night may not effect your testosterone production enough to even effect your morning levels. Drugs like morphine, demoral, oxycontin are more powerful and effect the endocrine system more.

[DOHCrazy]

You don't need the Tylenol (Acetaminophen) that is in the Vicodin.

With a simple Cold Water Extraction, you can separate the Hydrocodone and the Tylenol, leaving you with just the Hyrdocodone. That's what is doing most of the pain killing anyways.

Another idea, if you are getting your Vicodin legally, you could ask for a prescription with either less Tylenol or no Tylenol in the pills.

I can't PM yet, but let me know if you can't Google info about Cold Water Extractions.

[roserose]

Also there is no increase in the potential for opioid overdose while taking testosterone replacement therapy. I don't know about tren and others but biologically it should be the same.

[roserose]

Spending the time to take 500mg of Tylenol out of a vicodin sound totally ridiculous to me. Just take the vicodin as absolutely needed and go to the dentist asap. IMHO

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

sry to somewhat hijack ur thread but any1 have an idea of why opiates stopped working for me since I started a cycle? I don't have that much of a tolerance to them but I swear as soon as I started my cycle they just don't work anymore?? maybe it's something else causing it.. I can't figure it out

[DOHCrazy]

Spending the time to take 500mg of Tylenol out of a vicodin sound totally ridiculous to me. Just take the vicodin as absolutely needed and go to the dentist asap. IMHO

One could CWE a whole script of Vicodins in about half an hour. If one is worried enough to post about the topic, 30 minutes doesn't sound like too much time.

It was only a suggestion.

[roserose]

The reason you may not "feel" opiates as much on a cycle is bc your testosterone levels are staying elevated. This lack of repression in the endocrine system may make you feel less sedated while taking opiates.

[roserose]

To DOHcrazy he's trying NOT to get addicted to opiates. Teaching him how to create a more pure and potent for of the drug doesn't seem too responsible to me.

[roserose]

Could just be tolerance building up as well.

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

The reason you may not "feel" opiates as much on a cycle is bc your testosterone levels are staying elevated. This lack of repression in the endocrine system may make you feel less sedated while taking opiates.

I fukkin knew there had to be some reason thanks dude good to know

[IM708]

I take vicotin and it doesn't do shit to me.

[DOHCrazy]

To DOHcrazy he's trying NOT to get addicted to opiates. Teaching him how to create a more pure and potent for of the drug doesn't seem too responsible to me.

Im sorry, but I do not beleieve you know what Cold Water Extraction is. You are welcome to research it, just as I did when I learned about it.

It has nothing to do with creating a more potent or pure version of dihydrocodeinone. It simply has to do with seperating the two compounds in Vicodin, allowing the person consuming to choose how much of each drug they ingest.

I completely understand your worry about him getting addicted, but it is irrelevant to what I am suggesting.

[JiGGaMaN]

All opiates will lower natural testosterone production while in the body.

source?

I can CWE a whole script of Vicodins in about half an hour.

good for you. thats not to be talked about on here.

[Karo]

It's been 5 days since i've taken any acetaminophen and I swear I can see and feel a big difference. I feel stronger, pumps have been better etc. I also appear to be more vascular. Then again I am week 9 of my cycle so it could just be the juice kicking in real good. Either way I feel better even if it's only a placebo effect.