Exactly. And everyone agrees that it was an atrocity what the Europeans did to the Native Americans.Originally Posted by mho
The Arabs/Palestinians preceded the Jews. When the Jews came from Egypt, they had to wipe out the native inhabitants (the ancestors of the Arabs). This is even mentioned in the Old Testament.who occupied that land first? Jews or Palestinians?
It's always unacceptable. 48volts explains perfectly:I really don't see why this is unacceptable only in the case of Israel.
48volts hit the nail on its head!
No. Even though this is a pathetically weak line of argumentation, even this argument fails, since the ancestors of the Arabs were already in the land before the Jews came from Egypt. Again, mentioned in the OT itself.
Detailed censuses were done by the Ottomans, the British, and the French. The British especially took great pains to document this, when they were discussing the issue of what was to be done of the British mandate of Palestine. The British Survey of Palestine Department had at least 55 detailed charts and tables on this issue.
The statistics are accepted by the Israeli government, and are even available on the official Israeli website. I've already posted this before. If you want, I can search my previous posts to find it again.
The fact is that the Israeli government admits that only 6% of the land was owned by Jews up until 1948. Keep in mind that this was after decades of illegal Jewish immigration and Zionist terrorist squads. Even with all that, only 6%. In the early 1900s, it was way less than that.
These facts cannot be denied, and whoever denies them doesn't know what he is talking about.
Sure. Go research about the Zionist terrorist groups, such as the Irgun, Haganah, Stern Gang, etc. It was from these groups that the IDF (Israel's military) was formed. This is all documented history. If you don't know this, then you have no right to give any input whatsoever.They came in and started killing and destroying and treating Palestinians like subhumans...care to back that up and share a source since after all it is fact.
The Arab population increased mainly due to fertility, not immigration.There is in fact every indication there was net Arab immigration into Palestine in the period of 1900-1948, and that the economic situation of Palestinian Arabs improved tremendously under the British Mandate relative to surrounding countries. According to the Ottoman census there were 414k arabs in Palestine in 1893. By 1948, there were approximately 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living between the Jordan and the Mediterranean, more Arabs than had ever lived in Palestine before, and more Jews than had lived there since Roman times.
The fact is that Israel is occupying Palestinian land, not the other way around.Real people are suffering and dying by the hands of blood thirsty racist Palestinians too. That's a fact.
You are the one who knows nothing on a topic but continues to debate. Please list the books you have read on this topic. If you've never read a single book on this topic, then just be quiet.If you're going to get all dramatic with your "that's a fact" statements, try to make some of them facts rather than bias perspectives.
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