Guys please critique my first injectable cycle if possible...

[eatrainrest]

WHEN did I ever say 750mgs/week ?????


Please, if you can't do simple math, then maybe steroid use is not for you.....LOLOLOLOL


Hell i am 10 years into this and don't use that much test. I do however know how to do math to get the dose I want.....hmmmmm

even using YOUR logic, he wouldn't be doing 750, it would be more like 875 as it would break down to 3.5 shots a week

that said, IF the sust is concentrated at 250mgs/ml, then he COULD do 1/2 ml EOD and get approx 437.5 mgs/week

see, its called MATH.......sorry, just feeling a little punchy today.....lolol

gappa i think you missed that

[eyeothetiger]

Gappa dont worry I will,thanks for your input man,you really seem to give a shit. In answer to question though,because I am only prepared to inject 250mg once a week what I am best off doing,Sust or Test E?. It's ok reading up but hearing first hand is lot more valuable and reassuring.

[T-MOS]

3 sust a week 3x250mgs?? last time I checked there were only 7 days in a week..lmao T!
Tigger.. watch the upper part of the glutes.. The sciatic nerve runs horizontal for a spot then down the leg.

Seriously????? are you really that dense???

WHO said he has to do a FULL 250 mgs EACH shot????? WHO, please tell me, where is that written????

Yep 7 days in a week, now take that time 2 and you get 14 days right???? so that make 7 shots in 14 days ! still with me here Gappa, and I going too fast for you????

so now we use MATH.....I know thats a new concept for you but try to stick with me here. we use math to get the Average WEEKLY DOSE

so.....

Injection EOD would look like this........

MON-125 mgs
WED-125
FRI--125
SUN--125
TUES--125
THURS-125
SAT-----125. for a two week total of = 875 mgs. now divide that by TWO=437.5 mgs/week........................then you repeat the process.....giving you 7 shots over two weeks before the cycle of days repeats


where did I lose you????????????

[Gappa]

Not from experience as I never hit one as far as I know but some people talk about having massive respiration difficulty for a short spell. What are others yall???

[T-MOS]

To the OP

if you are dead set on injecting ONLY once a week, then just go with the Test E, and your blood levels will stay more stable

[Gappa]

Ohhhh ok I just figured he wuz using the amps and doing a full cc... Duh... I feel retarded..
I always did amps and I just did the math assuming he would too.. He threw me off by his 250mg week dose..

[Gappa]

what about test cyp T? same ester half life almost.. and it's cheaper at the local pharmacy... at least here it is..

[eatrainrest]

there is a slightly longer ester in the cyp than the enth... virtually identical though maybe youll hold a lil more water with cyp

[Gappa]

For a beginner Tig, you don't want to feel like a pincushion, trust me.. I have done it MANY years and I still hate even EOD shots

[Gappa]

What about recommending a little EQ guys??.. It's quite mild but very effective and the strength and massive pumps might be welcome in a beginner....

[eyeothetiger]

My amps will be 250mg wether go for sust or test e,good shit too. I'm a stubborn bastard I know ;-),I just gotta feel comfortable in what I'm doing,this a big step for me as it is.Which is less painful/easiest to inject?. Is the dbol dose about right at 40mg per day for 4 weeks as kicker?,or should I lower it?.

[T-MOS]

My amps will be 250mg wether go for sust or test e,good shit too. I'm a stubborn bastard I know ;-),I just gotta feel comfortable in what I'm doing,this a big step for me as it is.Which is less painful/easiest to inject?. Is the dbol dose about right at 40mg per day for 4 weeks as kicker?,or should I lower it?.

the prop ester in Sust is gonna hurt more

as stated a dozen times , SINGLE ESTER is the way to go... Either Test E or Test Cyp is fine. Only difference he needs to be worried about is the PCT start times for each

Sust = 18 days after last inject
Test Cyp= 18 days after last inject
Test E = 14 days after last inject

Ohhhh ok I just figured he wuz using the amps and doing a full cc... Duh... I feel retarded..
I always did amps and I just did the math assuming he would too.. He threw me off by his 250mg week dose..

Even with amps, you can divide the dose and preload a syringe with the leftover if needed. Its not that hard to figure out

[eyeothetiger]

Do you guys know if you can actually go to your doctor to get pinned?,or is there another way in u.k of getting someone knows their shit to do it?. I'm 90% sure of meself but still nervous,it's good I am I spose,better to be like that than actions now and worry later hey.

[Hazard]

Do you guys know if you can actually go to your doctor to get pinned?,or is there another way in u.k of getting someone knows their shit to do it?. I'm 90% sure of meself but still nervous,it's good I am I spose,better to be like that than actions now and worry later hey.

A doctor isn't going to let someone walk into his office with a syringe full of a substance and then inject it into him LOL......

Just doit urself...... what are you gunna do if you get a friend to doit and then 1/2 way through the cycle something happens and he can't doit anymore?

~Haz~

[eyeothetiger]

Where did you come from Hazard?,you beast!! :-). Easier said than done doing it to yourself hey,what were your first experiences guys??,bet some of you were bricking it?,has anybody ever had infection/abcess?...heard any horror stories?. Keeping this thread going as sure it's gonna help lot of guys out,whole idea of forum hey.

[Hazard]

Look at it like this..... if it's gunna hurt, mine don't, it will hurt whether you doit urself or someone else does. If ur nervous about injecting try stickin urself with an insulin pin 1st..... it's PAINLESS...... it might help u get over the fear.

Regarding infections...... you need to make sure your using aseptic technique. Just be clean and careful...... Wipe the top of the vial with an alcohol swab..... wipe the injection site with an alcohol swab..... Don't touch the needle to anything but ur skin & the vial if use the same size needle to draw and inject. As long as your careful - you shouldn't have a problem..... unless your gear is dirty.....

~Haz~

[eyeothetiger]

Cool,to be honest mate my main prob is feeling of it proding into muscle but I should imagine it feels different to how I think it will feel. What do you actually feel from start to finish of injection with test e?,hard for me to imagine...liking idea of insulin pin,thanks.

[Hazard]

Seriously????? are you really that dense???

WHO said he has to do a FULL 250 mgs EACH shot????? WHO, please tell me, where is that written????

Yep 7 days in a week, now take that time 2 and you get 14 days right???? so that make 7 shots in 14 days ! still with me here Gappa, and I going too fast for you????

so now we use MATH.....I know thats a new concept for you but try to stick with me here. we use math to get the Average WEEKLY DOSE

so.....

Injection EOD would look like this........

MON-125 mgs
WED-125
FRI--125
SUN--125
TUES--125
THURS-125
SAT-----125. for a two week total of = 875 mgs. now divide that by TWO=437.5 mgs/week........................then you repeat the process.....giving you 7 shots over two weeks before the cycle of days repeats


where did I lose you????????????

The body doesn't recognize "time frames" - nice post T-mos. It's not like the body says "well..... i got 4 shots last week and only 3 this week...... time to let the side effects kick in"
All it knows is there is external testosterone being injected EOD..... and with sust thats important.

I still don't understand why people like sust..... seems like it's too much a pain in the *ss for me...

~Haz~

[Hazard]

Cool,to be honest mate my main prob is feeling of it proding into muscle but I should imagine it feels different to how I think it will feel. What do you actually feel from start to finish of injection with test e?,hard for me to imagine...liking idea of insulin pin,thanks.

The only thing you "feel" is when it initially breaks the skin. Once you pass the skin barrier..... you can't feel the needle. You can literally move it up and down (while staying in the muscle) a thousand times and don't feel anything. I don't recommend actually doing that tho LOL.

Just so you can see how easily a needle penetrates the skin.... get an orange and the same size needle you plan on using and inject the orange (not w/ ur gear ofcoarse lol) - the orange's skin is tougher than ours - i think you'll feel a little relieved after that

~Haz~

[eyeothetiger]

Right fellas I'm feeling lot more comfortable and sorted now so many thanks,much appreciated. T-MOS you're still a meanie but hey :-).

[eyeothetiger]

Just caught that last message Hazard,again very helpful.

Take it easy guys and god bless.

[Gappa]

Yeah T-mos I wasn't understanding what you were gettin at.. When we did sust the dose was 1 amp 1cc 250mg and the common consensus was to do the whole amp not loading more than one dart with a split dose..
BTW tig, if your sauce is prescribed by a Dr you can go to their office and they will stick ya..
Have a buddy do it for ya.. it really doesn't hurt bro...

[hankdiesel]

EOD=3 sust a week 3x250mgs?? last time I checked there were only 7 days in a week..lmao T!
Tigger.. watch the upper part of the glutes.. The sciatic nerve runs horizontal for a spot then down the leg. I got 15years nanny nanny boo boo I got more than you do..lmao

You must have rode the short bus to school.

[hankdiesel]

Ohhhh ok I just figured he wuz using the amps and doing a full cc... Duh... I feel retarded..
I always did amps and I just did the math assuming he would too.. He threw me off by his 250mg week dose..

Even if it was a full cc it still wouldn't be 750mg a week.

[Gappa]

EOD 1cc 250mgs??
I wasn't following what he was getting at by dropping the dose... In my world 1 amp is 1 dose by doing 3 sust doses a week it's 750
Come on gimme a break, how many of you actually take an amp of anything and not do the whole 1cc it contains??????????