bro I am in the SAME boat as you although I am NOT on cycle and have taken a few months off, the problem I see on many forums is the HOMEBREW TREN ahhh I have NEVER been the same (1 year) since.
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bro I am in the SAME boat as you although I am NOT on cycle and have taken a few months off, the problem I see on many forums is the HOMEBREW TREN ahhh I have NEVER been the same (1 year) since.
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i agree. i take .5mg twice a week and it keeps my estrogen under control.Originally Posted by chuckt12345
my sex drive and erections sucked for a while. i was on prop/tren/winny. my erections were weak as hell. now im taking caber, proviron, test and im take viagra when im about to have sex. definately working pretty well. the only thing that bother's me is my ejaculation volume. it's pretty pathetic but im hoping when i come off cycle that clomid will increase the volume.
so i'd first get a blood test to see what's going on. could be high bp too if ur having erection problems. it's on the main main causes of ED.
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well immortal, u are right...im not offended...but i look wayyyy bigger from my last pic in my defense, and this is the first time ive ever used such dosages...something always goes wrong when im on gear...either i get deployed to iraq, or i drop a 130 lb dumbbell on my toe and have to not go to the gym for 6 weeks...but you are right, I think this is gonna be my last cycle and I'm gonna let my body recover from my idiocy...but for once i am getting good results though....ill just stick to gh
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yea ive been on for a while but i def put on some size since the last pic which was around may 18th
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honestly all the stuff your taking just out of curiosity i wanna see some pics to see if its worth it.
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I would say cut out the ldex. I was taking the same shit and then cut it out and a week later my dick was back in action! just try it and see what happens. why are you even taking arimidex?
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well i wanted to lower the estro levels since im on 1g of test and 800 eq, to avoid bloat, and its working...i have no sides except my dick really
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Alright well, I looked at the pictures and once again bro, it reaffirms what I just said.
Listen I am not saying you don't have muscle on you or anything, but if I saw you in the gym I would think your natural or if you told you me that you been on cycle for 40 weeks I would laugh because you should have gotten alot more out of these cycles.
So like I said you probably would have gotten more results from doing the standard 12 weeks + pct let your body rest than 12 weeks + pct let your body rest type protocol than running steroids for 40 weeks. Trust me man if it was that easy we all would be running 40 week cycles and be Arnold in a 2 years. But the body doesnt work that way.
You need to go to your doctor after cycle get bloodwork done and see how your pitutary (LSH and FSH) levels are after PCT. You might have permantely lowered your testosterone to the point you will need to be put on medical testosterone for the rest of your life.
Now man, no one understands your addiction better than I do. I have fought with it myself and hell if I had the cash you do maybe I would be in your shoes who knows. But thankfully I am smart enough to know to give my body rest because nobody is going to like you more just because you sacrificed your health for a few extra pounds. Remember you still have a life ahead of you, dont damage your heart and body just so you try to achieve something that comes with time. A great body comes with time. I cannot be T-mos in 2 years or look like Reed in a year. It doesn't work that way if it did we all would be 250 dudes with low bf% walking around
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cut adex out. enjoy the water retention. learn to love it
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i know...immortal u are right...i don't look like a juice head, which is a good thing but what should i do now, drop everything cold turkey??? i was gonna finish this cycle off and then do it from there...i know plenty of my friends who are my age (25) and just never get off juice, and they are fine...they just switch compounds...but i guess unless im truely a bodybuilder whats the point??? im not offended by anything u said, and i know ur right, so what do i do now...just jump on a pct??? get some hcg???
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Here's my .02 lol
Knock the ammount of A-dex down to .25 EOD...... Get some proviron and run it at 50mg's/ED and see how that does. Proviron is said to have a SLIGHT effect on estrogen..... I don't think it's been proven tho..... maybe i'm wrong.
YOU NEED HCG! dude..... I used HCG for my 12 week cycle LOL..... anything over 16 weeks needs HCG in my opinion. It'll help bring your balls back to size and make recovery easier for you.
~Haz~
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Yeah we already know..... DSM told the whole board it didn't do anything for you...... or him
~Haz~
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well how did u take ur hcg during cycle...i think i should finish this off...im actually have been on for a total of 24 weeks...not 40...lol..i just looked at my charts...so def made it worse than it was
if i finishe my cycle i would be on for a total of 35 weeks...only reason y is because eq is more effective on longer cycles really...u can't cut eq off at 12 weeks, u gotta go longer than that
im on week 9 of my sust eq cycle
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I took 250mcg's 3 times a week..... theres a bunch of different thoughts on how to take it. I know theres a thread around here somewhere on HCG..... if i find it - i'll post it.
~Haz~
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true... immortal is right though, but i have to atleast finish this last cycle, then take a shit load of time off, like months time off...if i ever take anything again maybe ill just take winny on its own or something...im done with test and trens and all that noise...gh def stayin on
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I wouldn't run anything without test man. But definately take some time off......
I was just reading one of BIG's posts and he runs his HCG every 5 days at 500mcg's/shot. Like i said..... theres a bunch of ways people run it. Pick one and try it and see how it works for yah.
I'd get bloodwork done after PCT and check my cholesterol and test levels. Definately run the extended PCT.....
~Haz~
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i just realized maybe im taking way too much eq...i was just reading how eq will supress ur hormones and im only taking 200mg more of sust...maybe i should drop eq to 600mg and keep sust at 1g...what do u think?
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anyone think the eq is too high??
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no I don't. I think the adex is your problem. run a lower dose or cut it out. I would put money on it. at 1g of test a week I was ****ing like 5 times a day. dick was always hard. if I take a little adex my dick goes limp.
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Here's a thought: Sust is the most commonly faked test out there
Anyway, yeah, cut the ldex down. When I upped mine to .5mg ED my c0ck power went downhill.
Run a good HCG regiment while you're coming off the sust and then do a good PCT, I would include Clomid, Aromasin, and Nolva, as follows:
Clomid: 100/75/50/50 mg
Aromasin: 25/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 mg
Nolva: 40/40/20/20/20/10 mg
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well i can assure u, my sust is not fake at all...im gonna cut down eq to 600mg and the ldex..
see what happens, thanks guys
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Tell me bro, what do your friends get out of the fact of staying on all the time?
I mean if staying on all the time ment you would gain all the time then don't you think we would all be doing it? It doesn't, the body resists every step of the way, hence why after 10-12 weeks your gains start to baseline that is because SHBG, Cortisol, myostatin and other hormonal levels have been increased to combat it.
Yes, bodybuilders are on all the time but then again thats their career thats how they make the bread in their life.
Now all your friends are doing is scarficing their natural test and their health just for a few extra pounds. And bro I have heard and saw it time and time again you know whats going to happen in the end? In a few years they are going to come off and I doubt they will realize that they no longer produce sufficent testosterone and because they never gave their own body time to rest and keep muscle naturally (ie. by being off cycle for a few months). They are going to start losing muscle like crazy and soon they will be half of what they were. Then hopefully after they realize they are depressed and can't get hard at all to go see a doctor and they will be put on medical testosterone for the rest of their life. I bet at 40 they will feel stupid for what they did at 25 because now in order to live an happy life they have to pin themselves with prescribed testosterone just to function.
Now I am not saying drop the cycle and go into pct, I am saying finish this cycle and take time off. 6-8 months and go to the doctor and get a checkup and bloodwork. Tell him to check your LSH/FSH/testosterone/free test/lipid profile
Best of Luck
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thanks immortal...im gonna finish it off and stay off for a long damn time...just take gh to maintain and lose fat...
i appreciate the concern...once again thanks everyone for your advice
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your 25 and on that much gear?
uh no
and sounds like caber would help alot here
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i used cabaser and it didn't do shit...so if u have some good caber pm me the source cause i dont know, i took 1mg a week a didn't do anything
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If I were in your situation I would cut out all of the steroids (including ancillaries) except the testosterone at a lower dose say 500mg a week until the your problem subsides. then come off. That's what I do when I take any 19 nor as the first time I did not do that and I was ****ed for like 6 months until I ran another test only cycle.
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