Serious question about crying fits/depression on test..

[DOM6]

You do raise an interesting point.

The point being my first cycle, even though it was enthanate, it was in my body long enough where I should have been having problems like this (if I'm prone in reacting to test this way)

But I DID NOT do any anti-es during my test enth and I'm thinking maybe, just maybe, something is up with the letro.
Now I'm afraid to just drop the letro to find out, you think I should just stop taking it and see what happens?

You really might be onto something here, I wasnt really deeming the letro a culprit at all.

did you have issues on cycle #1? to even run letro on cycle#2
i keep mine on hand and dont run it til need be, which has been never, but thats me. try that, thats my 1st guess, the funky prop is my 2nd guess

[peachfuzz]

bojangles any history of recreational drug use? or presently using?

[Bojangles69]

bojangles any history of recreational drug use? or presently using?

Nah, just some greenage a month back but nothing really besides that.

[Dancer]

Clomid bring the girl outta any and every heterosexual man, one man at a time.

[Reed]

Surprised no one mentioned the cycle itself.

1.25mg of letro ed?? Your estro is in the ground right now. Estrogen is very beneficial during a cycle and is what helps us gain mass, too little or too much is where things go wrong

Low estrogen levels trigger the brain to release MAO an enzyme in the brain which destroys serotonin. Low serotonin levels are associated with depression. There is also research that shows the association of panic attacks with decreased levels of estro.

Low estro effects memory, can lower self esteem, low total cholesterol, joint pain swelling. I could go on but I think you get the idea now.

Adding 1.25mg of a extremely powerful AI like letro is just over the top, not needed, and frankly dangerous for ANYONE..... if you use it .25-.5mgs should be the maximum.

And I'd personally not recommend its use while on cycle, go with arimidex and you should wait till you start seeing signs (too much bloating, itchy nips, lethargy,etc) and start with .25mg of arimidex eod. A slight increase of estrogen is beneficial in a cycle but like I said you need to be in a certain range and right now your estrogen had to of crashed.

Try to stop the letro and see what happens....

[Bojangles69]

Surprised no one mentioned the cycle itself.

1.25mg of letro ed?? Your estro is in the ground right now. Estrogen is very beneficial during a cycle and is what helps us gain mass, too little or too much is where things go wrong

Low estrogen levels trigger the brain to release MAO an enzyme in the brain which destroys serotonin. Low serotonin levels are associated with depression. There is also research that shows the association of panic attacks with decreased levels of estro.

Low estro effects memory, can lower self esteem, low total cholesterol, joint pain swelling. I could go on but I think you get the idea now.

Adding 1.25mg of a extremely powerful AI like letro is just over the top, not needed, and frankly dangerous for ANYONE..... if you use it .25-.5mgs should be the maximum.

And I'd personally not recommend its use while on cycle, go with arimidex and you should wait till you start seeing signs (too much bloating, itchy nips, lethargy,etc) and start with .25mg of arimidex eod. A slight increase of estrogen is beneficial in a cycle but like I said you need to be in a certain range and right now your estrogen had to of crashed.

Try to stop the letro and see what happens....

Thats awesome, many thanks cause I wasn't aware of that at all. I'll do a quick taper and drop the letro for sure now.

[DOM6]

Thats awesome, many thanks cause I wasn't aware of that at all. I'll do a quick taper and drop the letro for sure now.

i was going to say 1.25mg is too high but figured everyone would say, whats the newbee know, lol

[peachfuzz]

^I knew we kept you around for a reason

[KatsMeow]

Thanks Reed for your insightful knowledge, it's about the only productive post that has come of this thread

[DOM6]

Hey, i said stop the letro 1st

[meathead320]

I prob should have posted this in the steroid forum I'm just too use to using the lounge I guess.

This is a serious question because today was my birthday and I basically wanted to kill myself.

My only previous cycle experience was with test enth (2 years ago roughly) that I wound up backing out of before it ever kicked in. (I decided it was too soon)
Well I started test prop 10 days ago and today is the second time this has happened.

On day 3 I was driving in my car and for unknown reasons I literally lost control and couldn't stop crying, I don't know why I was crying, I just know it literally felt like it was almost involuntary, I COULD NOT STOP no matter how hard I tried.
I was prob like that for a good 45mins trying to gain control over it.

I noticed I've been snappy and more aggressive lately and thats fine, I actually kinda of like it, but I also feel something happening that is kinda scaring me at this point.

Today, my birthday, I was driving to my folks house and it happened again. Nothing seems to trigger it, my eyes just start watering, I get depressed as fvck for no reason, and it seems to stop whenever it wants to.

Nothing like this has ever happened so it has to be the test (or letro).

But after today, I figured I need to post this here. I'm literally just starting to love what the test is doing.. but, I just can't deal with this one wierd side effect.
I have nothing in world to be depressed about, but during this second crying fit I wanted to off myself, its all I kept thinking about EVEN WHEN I know I have no reason to be that way.

My question, is this normal?
Will it go away? I'm doing 100mg prop EOD + 1.25 letro.

I though test was suppose to make you happy meanwhile I'm anything but happy. I told myself one more time and thats it, but I don't wanna stop because I've been preparing forever for this small little cycle.

Any thoughts or suggestions would really be welcome. I feel a bit cold and empty inside, even now, and I never feel like this.

Ok, just re-read this. I still think you are better off not on any of this is you have depression problems to begin with, but...

I see you are using prop.

In that case, you likely don't need any AI. Letro would drop your E2 levels down too much, and has been said here, estro too low can cause mental props, just like too high.

Prop has a short half life, and does not have as much time to aromatize into Estradiol, as it is out of your system so fast.

longer acting stuff like enth or cyp has a higher conversion, but even then I would not suggest using an AI unless you are having problems from the E2 getting too high.

For now though, my best advice is to stop what you are doing if you got issues to start with.