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    ^Nice post, Bo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    ^Nice post, Bo.
    Thanks, I think thats the first time I've ever posted outside the lounge =]

    need a change of scenery i guess hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    There is prove all over the forums, just check out the many threads were young people are asking for help because they cant get hard and feel depressed. Ive been in the business for over 20yrs and ive come across so many young guys in their 20's on HRT for life, many many bobdybuilders end up on HRT sooner than they should, reason being is because of continuly shutting down your HPTA and thats when its fully developed, what damage do you think will happen if you shut down a natural system of the body before its fully developed? serious damage and the % is high trust me, ive seen it many times, there is a huge risk its if you want to take it or not.

    The syptoms of low Test are very hard to cope with, traust me ive been there and gone through it, you dont want to have these problems in your 20's it will destroy your life, my Endro told me he comes across many guys in their 30's who need HRT because of AAS use, thats at least 10 yrs younger than they should be and in some caes 15-20yrs younger, so whats the chance of damage if you start to shut down a very delicate system of hormones before its fully developed, the answer's are all over the forums not from people trying to scare you but from guys who have been there and are having problems.
    could the answer to all this be for young people to just run hcg throghout their cycle so that their system never shuts down? just was thinking about that after reading this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by lift2win View Post
    could the answer to all this be for young people to just run hcg throghout their cycle so that their system never shuts down? just was thinking about that after reading this thread
    You should read into the down-falls of using HCG, and the effects it can have on the body.

    That couple is DEFINITELY a double-edged-sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    You should read into the down-falls of using HCG, and the effects it can have on the body.

    That couple is DEFINITELY a double-edged-sword.
    alright thanks. ill research that now, no such thing has having too much knowledge when it comes to this stuff. thanks

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    I completely agree. But if I may make a point! I am 21 and have been training along time. As this gentlemen stressed you might meet a girl when your 19 and fall head over heals. And fatten up! And guess what my brotha it happened to me. I was 18 195 8% year around seems like nonsense but its true I worked hard from 16 to 18 in highschool wrestling. Met some 27 year old vietnamese hot pot she fuc k ed me non stop and i fell for her moved in with her and bang 1 year later im back in colledge and thinking how my chest and six dissapeared? Im considering AS im 21, and alot of these guys no what there talking about.

    Its not about lifting for girls bro. Alot of young guys which I put myself in that catagory only lift to get big for *****. Its just not worth it. You have to lift for the love of lifting so if steroids makes you lift better because you love advancement sure by all means. But be safe and think of your future in lifting.

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    Yeah i understand what bojangles69 means, but the reality is ive had a chick for over two years and still put my training first. Im the one throwing away my social life and doing squats on friday nights and eating pounds of cold steak at uni. As regarding to my little experience with all do respect i think that quote is a crock of sh*t. I base my life around my training, im doing exercise science and physiotherapy at uni with a cert 4 in fitness, i may not have vet experience in squatting 500 pounds but regarding to training and nutrition i think im quite adequate. thanks anyway i do value your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    Yeah i understand what bojangles69 means, but the reality is ive had a chick for over two years and still put my training first. Im the one throwing away my social life and doing squats on friday nights and eating pounds of cold steak at uni. As regarding to my little experience with all do respect i think that quote is a crock of sh*t. I base my life around my training, im doing exercise science and physiotherapy at uni with a cert 4 in fitness, i may not have vet experience in squatting 500 pounds but regarding to training and nutrition i think im quite adequate. thanks anyway i do value your opinion.
    your weekends seem a lot like mine, i quit going out to focus on lifting. i can never get in a good lift if im hung over. some people just have different goals in life

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    Bojangles post wasnt just referring to girls, he just used this as an example. There are many other possibilities that can affect your working out but truthfully this can happen at any age. It is more detrimental though at the age of 18. I started too early but i did it for sports purposes. It wasnt smart because i know down the road i will more than likely be on hrt. An everyday bodybuilder looking to get bigger at 18 can max himself out naturally and experiment later on. You have time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojangles69 View Post
    Whether 18, 19, or 20 those are all too young.

    The problem is you've never juiced before so you've prob built steroids up in your head as some magical end all solution to putting on mass.
    If you really wanna cycle, go ahead, I personally could care less what kinda shit you run into 10-15 years down the road. Your health is your own responsibility and noone elses.

    But the point is, with repercussions aside, its just not neccessary. At your age if you're not able to put on muscle fast enough you don't compensate by taking steroids, you compensate by fixing your diet and workout regime.

    And its not always about a specific number. Its about years of experience. Its amazing when I look back at how many of my friends were "serious into bodybuilding" when they were 18, 19, etc and use to tell people "I've been lifting since I was 14 or 15."

    PLEASE, what a joke, the real issue is you have no experience. NOT JUST WITH STEROIDS which you have 0 experience, but at that age you also have VERY LITTE experience with natural bodybuilding.
    How the hell do you know when you turn 19 you're not gonna meet some chick, fatten up grow content and never lift another weight again. It happens A LOT. All my friends were "serious" with lifting at your age, and about 90% of them are fat lazy bastards today.
    At your age there is no way you have natural bodybuilding down never mind bodybuilding with steroids. Its not always about safety as much as it just is common sense sometimes. Look how young you are, do you have any idea where you'll be 2 years from now? Things are always changing and change quick at that age. I just think if you can dedicate yourself through these next few years, which ultimately are the hardest years of your life (young adulthood) BUT if you can still stick to a proper routine, then yeh maybe then give juice a shot.
    VERY NICELY SAID!! Get on some creatine, and pump up ur calories! But listen to this man, he has a great point.

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