Deca vs Test e

[gymnerd]

let me share something with you buddy.... For someone who joined in jan of this year.... u sure jumped on a cycle pretty quick. with no experience. My friend you have no f*CKGIN room to talk. And should not be disrespecting the mod team here.

Let me recap for you... just incase your stupid ass forgot....


Nice dose on the dbol fool........


Your fat ass shouldn't be running a cycle. Over 15% and you have a better chance at sides.


LMAO is all i can say to that




Wtf do you think this is all going to be easy?


cant do basic math?


LOL to cheap to protect your fat ass from gyno... Cool.

You still have no buisness talking about shit you aint run what is so hard to understand here? I dont pretend to know it all but dont give out advice if you dont know like yourself.

[c-Z]

1g of Deca? Yikes.

Everyone arguing on this thread already said they think 19nor is more potent, so I think the question was answered so far.

I could have sworn thats what i said... but... because i haven't used deca my opinion doesnt matter... we are dealing with a thick headed 35 year old man.... its cool.

[c-Z]

You still have no buisness talking about shit you aint run what is so hard to understand here? I dont pretend to know it all but dont give out advice if you dont know like yourself.

LOL? I do know though..... My gym partner uses deca. But he uses test with it. The proper way to run it.....? LMAO? OK so im not the one shooting it... But i still see the affects of it. the strength gains of it...

Listen old man... just stfu. OK. Your fat. Overweight. And should not be using any steroids. And only want answers from vets because no ones answers are good enough for you. You are unhappy because your obesity kills your sex life. therfore you get no *****..... Get lost. I'm done with you old man. Admin has already been informed of your unhappyness here. Have a nice F*CKING night prick

You my friend haven't ran deca as well..... And please... Since we know you can take the chance of not having your penis work. Because you dont get laid. be sure to let me know how it works.

Im tired of ignorant f*cks like you disrespecting the team here. And sure i crossed the line. But you crossed it the momment you disrespected ninesecz

[gymnerd]

change the attitude or you will be gone. we do not allow this kind of talk here

PT

[gymnerd]

LOL? I do know though..... My gym partner uses deca. But he uses test with it. The proper way to run it.....? LMAO? OK so im not the one shooting it... But i still see the affects of it. the strength gains of it...

Listen old man... just stfu. OK. Your fat. Overweight. And should not be using any steroids. And only want answers from vets because no ones answers are good enough for you. You are unhappy because your obesity kills your sex life. therfore you get no *****..... Get lost. I'm done with you old man. Admin has already been informed of your unhappyness here. Have a nice F*CKING night prick

IMO you dont know shit your just getting frustrated because I called you out for the sucker you are.

[c-Z]

You dont know what i have run. And what i have done. Or who i know has ran what. So no paroting. Thank you. You know nothing about me. Or anyone else here...

You just like to get your little prick off by calling people parots, and trolls because thats all you know how to do.... I am not frustrated in any way. I am amused by all this.. For tomorrow this post won't even be here.

This is ****ing childish. And for someone your age. You should have more common sense then you do. If you want to take this to a PM. then be my guest. But arguing over an open forum like this... is not good for the community. I know you aren't happy here... but i care about what other people see.

[gymnerd]

You dont know what i have run. And what i have done. Or who i know has ran what. So no paroting. Thank you. You know nothing about me. Or anyone else here...

You just like to get your little prick off by calling people parots, and trolls because thats all you know how to do.... I am not frustrated in any way. I am amused by all this.. For tomorrow this post won't even be here.

This is ****ing childish. And for someone your age. You should have more common sense then you do. If you want to take this to a PM. then be my guest. But arguing over an open forum like this... is not good for the community. I know you aren't happy here... but i care about what other people see.

Bro, you are the one who got his feathers up. I could care less about what people think here. I think the newbs are whats important and I try not to give advice unless I am 100% sure and honestly you dont know me either or if the questions I asked were a test to see if I was getting good advice. From my experiance here YOU are the one who is going way over the top with shit just ****in relax its not a competition here either you know or you dont.

[c-Z]

All my input is from personal experience or knowledge that i am aware of. I am not here to give false advice. nor do i answer a question if i do not know the answer. Because an individual hasn't used a particular steroid. doesn't mean their knowledge on it is lacking. I know individuals who have NEVER ran a cycle. And yet probably know more shit then you and me put together. Just because you use it. Doesnt mean you know everything about it.

Go threw my posts. and see how many people back my responses and opinions up. How many thank yous i get. I'm not here for the bullshit.



EDIT:
BTW. A lot of my information was learned from experience as well from a very reputable moderator here. T-mos. And no one can bad mouth that man. He knew his shit. RIP BROTHA.

[ted666]

I am not bashing anything in fact I am trying to help. I see alot of advice given by people who have no experience. I have no problem with Internet knowledge but this is wrong. Believe what you will this site needs better guidance this is absurd.

why r u here retard !? you post threads asking advice and or opinions but this board is no good . GO KICK ROCKS THEN.

[ninesecz]

You ARE the Biggest point I am trying to make here. You know nothing neither does Nine and you are handing out advice to newbs? Admin. can do alot better that's a fact.

anytime you want to test knowledge let me know! I have $10,000 cash right here in my hand that says I have more experience with diet and Anabolics thanyou ever will. Do not come on here talking crap when you have no idea what you are saying. If you want to help that is fine if not go away!

[Juturna]

$10,000 cash right here says gymnerd is really just... a nerd. God I hope this gets closed.

[Phate]

$10,000 cash right here says gymnerd is really just... a nerd. God I hope this gets closed.

it will be, as well as reviewed for responsible parties(don't try to edit, we can see what you edit)

[~Big~]

Mg for mg which compound is considered a better muscle builder? My friend and I are having a discussion on the subject. This isn't a thread for everyone to tell me how to cycle, this is purely a question about the 2 compounds.

Deca is a significantly more potent mass builder.

[sportfan33]

wow, why couldnt have someone told him test e would give him more gains if taken by itself over decca lol.

[gymnerd]

wow, why couldnt have someone told him test e would give him more gains if taken by itself over decca lol.

Well because that wasnt the question. Deca is a much more potent compound than just test thats a fact anyone who disagrees either has never run it or gor bunk gear.

[Alphatier]

Deca is more anabolic than test, so i'd say you'd make greater gains with Deca.

But I agree with everybody here, I personally wouldn't run it alone. However, I've read about people running 19-Nor compounds alone and not shut down.

Depends on the person I guess.

[ShadetreeJones]

Deca is a significantly more potent mass builder.

Thank you very much. Jesus effing Christ how did this simple thread turn into such a ridiculous pissing match???

Thanks cz (thumbs up) great job.

You want a simple answer to what I thought was a simple question and you get this.

[Vettester]

Whats the worst advice. This is an opinionated answer... its not like we are comparing a 2010 corvette to a honda. which is faster stock?

Well, if you were comparing the 2010 vette to a honda, I know which one I would take! LOL

[MuscleScience]

Deca tends to have less side effects and better muscle building properties along with bone density changes when reviewed in context of the medical literature.

[ShadetreeJones]

c-Z,

Bro I'm sorry if this is "calling someone out" but in this thread you have said some of the most retarded things I have ever seen on this board. In the future if you cannot grasp or understand the question or don't have anything of any substance to add to the thread, I urge you to not post in it. For yours and everyone elses benefit. Good luck and stay healthy.

[PT]

im getting really sick o this bickering shit going on here. we do not allow it and the next time it happens everyone envolved will be suspended or banned from this board

[marcus300]

First off lets stop the flamming and lets discuss/debate the question......

Your going to get many different opinion if your asking many different people which is a better muscle builder, there will be a majority what would win if it was done as a poll but asking which drug is BETTER isnt as cut and dried as it seems because usually when we introduce chemicals into the body many of us react in different ways.

All I can give you is my expereince and experiemnts what ive done over the yrs regarding both drugs what you have in question. When i first started cycling years ago the trend was the good old dbol cycles and deca/dbol cycles, ive ran a few and at the time even though I gained plenty of new muscle tissue which was basicly from being like a dried sponge from yrs of natural training and anything anabolic would of made me grow at this stage of my life, I dont think I could compare it towards what Testosterone did for me.

Deca made me feel awful when i stopped the compound, i use to shut down hard and recovery was harsh and it was like going 3 steps forward and 4 back. Now when i started with Testosterone's this didn't happen as bad and what Test did was build quality muscle tissue and made me feel far better during and after the cycle than deca did alone. Many times i coupled them both together and gains were great, i suffered from joint and pains from my younger power lifting programs and the two together made lifting and building a joy to do but again I didn't like the after effects of what deca brought to the game!

My personal preference would be testosterone over deca, test makes me feels like 10 men, gives me motivation and builds muscle tissue like no other compound ive used alone, deca does suits a purpose but for me test would win every time, that's from personal experience of using both more or less on there own and looking at sides vs gains vs recovery.

Now, I do know some guys who prefer to use 19 nors other testosterone's, infact they dont use test at all, which i find strange but they respond and build some freaky size with just 19 nors, some are infact on stage so again its down to that individual on how his body reacts to both compounds. If we look at them on paper the anabolic vs androgenic rating deca is 125 / 37 and test is 100/100 so its a simple, do you respond more to a mixure of both ratings or does your body prefer more of an anabolic response? again anything on paper is just that and personal experience would be a better judge.

For a mg to mg which is better I would say Testosterone for the reason above but its not a 100% answer for everyone, others may find deca a better muscle builder for their bodies.

[c-Z]

and to answer your question... yes i think 19nor are stronger then test itself.

I answered the question a long time ago... If you would have gotten your head out of your ass and read you would have seen that. Perhaps you don't know which falls under the 19nor. The whole question is not thought out though and is just stupid.. Personally I think my IQ dropped after reading all of your comments.

I answered yer stupid question a LONG time ago.

c-Z,

Bro I'm sorry if this is "calling someone out" but in this thread you have said some of the most retarded things I have ever seen on this board. In the future if you cannot grasp or understand the question or don't have anything of any substance to add to the thread, I urge you to not post in it. For yours and everyone elses benefit. Good luck and stay healthy.

So i did grasp and understand the question. And I did have something to add to the thread. Wanted to make sure you understood the idiotness of it all. I help plenty of people here... And in the three years you have been here..... have never seen you. Soo maybe you need to get out of the lounge and get over here more. I knew the answer and stated it. You my friend didnt.

[c-Z]

Well because that wasnt the question. Deca is a much more potent compound than just test thats a fact anyone who disagrees either has never run it or gor bunk gear.

You sure know the question now that big answered.... But didnt say that any sooner? Yet have never run it. or perhaps you got bunk gear.

[c-Z]

First off lets stop the flamming and lets discuss/debate the question......

Your going to get many different opinion if your asking many different people which is a better muscle builder, there will be a majority what would win if it was done as a poll but asking which drug is BETTER isnt as cut and dried as it seems because usually when we introduce chemicals into the body many of us react in different ways.

All I can give you is my expereince and experiemnts what ive done over the yrs regarding both drugs what you have in question. When i first started cycling years ago the trend was the good old dbol cycles and deca/dbol cycles, ive ran a few and at the time even though I gained plenty of new muscle tissue which was basicly from being like a dried sponge from yrs of natural training and anything anabolic would of made me grow at this stage of my life, I dont think I could compare it towards what Testosterone did for me.

Deca made me feel awful when i stopped the compound, i use to shut down hard and recovery was harsh and it was like going 3 steps forward and 4 back. Now when i started with Testosterone's this didn't happen as bad and what Test did was build quality muscle tissue and made me feel far better during and after the cycle than deca did alone. Many times i coupled them both together and gains were great, i suffered from joint and pains from my younger power lifting programs and the two together made lifting and building a joy to do but again I didn't like the after effects of what deca brought to the game!

My personal preference would be testosterone over deca, test makes me feels like 10 men, gives me motivation and builds muscle tissue like no other compound ive used alone, deca does suits a purpose but for me test would win every time, that's from personal experience of using both more or less on there own and looking at sides vs gains vs recovery.

Now, I do know some guys who prefer to use 19 nors other testosterone's, infact they dont use test at all, which i find strange but they respond and build some freaky size with just 19 nors, some are infact on stage so again its down to that individual on how his body reacts to both compounds. If we look at them on paper the anabolic vs androgenic rating deca is 125 / 37 and test is 100/100 so its a simple, do you respond more to a mixure of both ratings or does your body prefer more of an anabolic response? again anything on paper is just that and personal experience would be a better judge.

For a mg to mg which is better I would say Testosterone for the reason above but its not a 100% answer for everyone, others may find deca a better muscle builder for their bodies.

I believe I mentioned that as well.... But i'm an idiot and dont know what i'm talking about....... Perhaps you guys should bash him and tell him he doesnt know what he is talking about either.

Everyones body is different plain and simple. the way your body will react to one substnace and the way mine will react are completely different.

[marcus300]

c-z

chill out and calm down, its only the interent, give your opinion and why your giving it and debate the issue if need be but watch your words,

[c-Z]

I just trying to make a point bro.... The fact they sit her bashing ninesecz and giving me shit is what bothers me.... considering I have my thought a few posts in. But they failed to see that or perhaps didnt understand the tems i used.....

Marcus... It is clearly an opinionated answer. There is NO correct answer. OK we can look at it like this.... What is better tylenol or advil.... Half will say advil sucks and the other half will say tylenol sucks... but because i use tylenol and he uses advil means im wrong.... No....

Clearly opinionated. And the complete question is stupid because we all know the proper way in running these two compounds. And the deca is always ran with a test if ran properly... Where as test can be ran alone....

Like i said in the previous post. Wouldnt it be better to compare test E and prop?
Apples to apples?

If we started a debate on that im sure it will be just as much chaos though..... Considering you will have the few who sees "better gains on test e" just because they put more weight on with it they think its better... but clearly water weight will be gone after the cycle is complete any ways..... Wetter gains with it..............

Opinionated Question.

[marcus300]

What I mean is some of your responses and words your using are going to start further conflict, no one is going to win your argument so state your answer and back it up with why and try and keep the fighting talk to PM's, i understand your frustration just try and keep on topic and not get personal with the name calling even if the things seem personal towards you dont worry rules will be enforced and I am sure you dont want to be involved in that when there is no reason for it.

[c-Z]

I get your point marcus.... I went to work in a rather shitty mood... and this seemed to come up on my mind... Personally.... We all know the proper way to run deca. Which is obviously with test..... So my question is... Wouldn't it be more logical.....

To argue say.... 250mgs test and 500mgs deca vs say 750mgs test? Which would be more beneficial to building muscle.

And my response to something like that would simply be the test and deca. And my reasoning.... because i know many users who run test much lower then the average dose... and run their second compound much higher...... Some people just don't like test. And from what I have seen i would imagine the deca and lower dose test would yield better results and gains.

[Juturna]

I'm going to tag this; Stupidity versus Common Sense.

[manwitplans]

First off lets stop the flamming and lets discuss/debate the question......

Your going to get many different opinion if your asking many different people which is a better muscle builder, there will be a majority what would win if it was done as a poll but asking which drug is BETTER isnt as cut and dried as it seems because usually when we introduce chemicals into the body many of us react in different ways.

All I can give you is my expereince and experiemnts what ive done over the yrs regarding both drugs what you have in question. When i first started cycling years ago the trend was the good old dbol cycles and deca/dbol cycles, ive ran a few and at the time even though I gained plenty of new muscle tissue which was basicly from being like a dried sponge from yrs of natural training and anything anabolic would of made me grow at this stage of my life, I dont think I could compare it towards what Testosterone did for me.

Deca made me feel awful when i stopped the compound, i use to shut down hard and recovery was harsh and it was like going 3 steps forward and 4 back. Now when i started with Testosterone's this didn't happen as bad and what Test did was build quality muscle tissue and made me feel far better during and after the cycle than deca did alone. Many times i coupled them both together and gains were great, i suffered from joint and pains from my younger power lifting programs and the two together made lifting and building a joy to do but again I didn't like the after effects of what deca brought to the game!

My personal preference would be testosterone over deca, test makes me feels like 10 men, gives me motivation and builds muscle tissue like no other compound ive used alone, deca does suits a purpose but for me test would win every time, that's from personal experience of using both more or less on there own and looking at sides vs gains vs recovery.

Now, I do know some guys who prefer to use 19 nors other testosterone's, infact they dont use test at all, which i find strange but they respond and build some freaky size with just 19 nors, some are infact on stage so again its down to that individual on how his body reacts to both compounds. If we look at them on paper the anabolic vs androgenic rating deca is 125 / 37 and test is 100/100 so its a simple, do you respond more to a mixure of both ratings or does your body prefer more of an anabolic response? again anything on paper is just that and personal experience would be a better judge.

For a mg to mg which is better I would say Testosterone for the reason above but its not a 100% answer for everyone, others may find deca a better muscle builder for their bodies.

Absolutely loved that answer. Others should answer similarly to that one right there. props

[Ronnie Rowland]

Some will make better muscle gains using deca while others will do best with test. Some swear by tren while others like deca better than tren for gaining muscle. Some do better on d-bol than drol and vise versa. Some grow well off EQ and eat everything in sight while others get nothing but anxiety and a decrease in appetite. Some get very strong on winstrol while maintaining healthy joints and others get weaker from winstrol because of severe joint pain. I could go on and on but I think you get my point..

[amcon]

Tht nis like asking which is more powerful Gasoline or Nitrous Oxide... One compliments the other... same thing with Deca.. it works Great.. when Stacked testosterone.. by itself mit is horrible and will give you the limpest noodle you have ever seen!

lol... now this is soooo true, so often people just run what some has to sell and dont get the correct dosage and usage....

[thebigfella]

let me share something with you buddy.... For someone who joined in jan of this year.... u sure jumped on a cycle pretty quick. with no experience. My friend you have no f*CKGIN room to talk. And should not be disrespecting the mod team here.

Let me recap for you... just incase your stupid ass forgot....


Nice dose on the dbol fool........


Your fat ass shouldn't be running a cycle. Over 15% and you have a better chance at sides.


LMAO is all i can say to that


Wtf do you think this is all going to be easy?


cant do basic math?


LOL to cheap to protect your fat ass from gyno... Cool.

hahaha cz u ****in destroyed this guy

[chuckt12345]

ive run deca on its own 2 times and ive run test on its own many times
DECA HANDS ****KNG DOWN will put on more mass and more strength mg for mg (My personal exp)

[graeme87]

Fcuk guys just answer his question rather than bashing him on how to run a cycle and not to use deca alone etc.

I’d say deca is a stronger muscle builder than test.

[graeme87]

For example I’d rather run 500mg of test and 500mg of deca than 1g of test.
I know there is the synergy effect to be taken into consideration but I’ll still say deca is a better muscle builder than test. I know others will disagree though.

[2gethuge]

Personally deca is the better mass builder alone for me but makes me feel shitty so I don't use it alone anymore