Advice on How to give advice.....

[Hazard]

This will be the final "Bump" for me tonite...... heading to AC for a bit of gambling

~Haz~

[WARMachine]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4885407

Perfect example of guys not knowing what they are talking about, and someone getting bad advice without even knowing it.

-WAR

[Dukkit]

and then there was my boy WAR!!!!


ssssuuuuupppp!!!

[WARMachine]

Bizzity Bump.

What up Dukk!?

[BJJ]

bump

[Hazard]

BUMP

~Haz~

[Hazard]

I feel this thread needs to be bumped due to an influx on new members and some new advice.....

~Haz~

[D7M]

[Hazard]

One more time for good measure!

~Haz~

[TexSavant]

i prefer military-style briefings

[D7M]

*sigh* this need bumping again.

[wukillabee]

I know this will probably sink to the bottomless Q&A pit..... But i'll post it anyways.

If you are going to give advice to anyone on this website...... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE know what you are talking about. If you aren't 100% sure.... fine.... just state that.

I have seen quite a lot of new guys come in here looking for cycle advice and they have been getting responses from people that had the same questions a few days earlier. It's not that I don't want you to help..... a new guy that comes in looking for cycle advice is going to listen to the 1st person that says what they want to hear. Regardless of what some of the vets and older guys have to say. Let me give you a fictional example.....

(New guy) Hey - I just bought Deca 20ml and sust 10ml - how should I cycle this?

(Vet) Stats?

(Older guys) Can you give us your stats?

(New guy) 21
6'0
195lbs
17% (im not sure)
Training for 2 years - 1 year serious - and this is my 1st cycle

(Vet) Sorry mate.... I don't think you are ready to cycle. Why not head over to the Diet section and get that diet straightened out.... etc.

(Random semi-new member) Hey man.... run that sust and deca 2x a week - might want more sust tho.....

(New guy) THANKS Random semi-new member!

I have seen it sooo many times and it aggrivates the hell out of me. Here are a few key things to ask yourself before you answer a question.....

1) Do I have personal experience with this?
2) Have I researched this topic on my own?
3) Would I just be parroting information?
4) Would I be able to back up my answer if I got called out?
5) Do I really know what I'm talking about here!?!?

People come to the Q&A section to learn about steroid use..... If we are giving out the wrong advice - they aren't benefitting. Also - the Q&A section isn't meant to be taken as 100% truth. When you ask a question - you have to trust that the guys giving you the answers know what they are talking about. It's just a place to collect other peoples experiences and apply it to your situation. If you have 10 guys telling you that running deca alone is not a good idea..... and 1 guy tells you he did it with no problems..... chances are: you're going to have a problem with it also. Will you for sure? NO ONE KNOWS..... but thats why we are here..... to try and guide new guys in the right direction.

sorry for the rant
~Haz~

Appreciate ur efforts in writing this but if someone has to read a tutorial on how to give advice, they shouldnt give advice! Pretty simple but i know a very few of us have common sense on this board so this might help.

[Hazard]

Appreciate ur efforts in writing this but if someone has to read a tutorial on how to give advice, they shouldnt give advice! Pretty simple but i know a very few of us have common sense on this board so this might help.

LOLOLOL you are totally right...... unfortunately this is for those who think they might be giving good advice..... some people need to see this..... maybe it'll shock them into reading some more.....

~Haz~

[dec11]

bump again, some newbies are getting tiresome, if ya havnt done it or dont knw about it, say nothing

[ohlsson]

well. newbies like me do want to hear what we want to hear, havent u guys been our age before? u learn from ur mistakes.

[ohlsson]

plus. im pretty sure alot of people here took roids when they were 19 and havent regretted it.

[dec11]

well. newbies like me do want to hear what we want to hear, havent u guys been our age before? u learn from ur mistakes.

well my advice to u would be grow up and come back on here wen you have, mistake in this will cost you dear lad

[dec11]

plus. im pretty sure alot of people here took roids when they were 19 and havent regretted it.

which translates to, you dont know, dont be a silly kid and listen to wat ur being advised

[ohlsson]

which translates to, you dont know, dont be a silly kid and listen to wat ur being advised

no which translates to me not trying to be a cocky twat,

[ohlsson]

well my advice to u would be grow up and come back on here wen you have, mistake in this will cost you dear lad

we're on a roid forum man, most if not all of us shoulnd be here no matter what age u are, lol, we're here cause we want an advantage, whether ur 19, or 35.

[dec11]

we're on a roid forum man, most if not all of us shoulnd be here no matter what age u are, lol, we're here cause we want an advantage, whether ur 19, or 35.

which advises wait until AT LEAST your mid twenties AND substancial training exp has been gained. now where is your prob in understanding tht? we are tryin to look out 4 u

[ohlsson]

which advises wait until AT LEAST your mid twenties AND substancial training exp has been gained. now where is your prob in understanding tht? we are tryin to look out 4 u

yeah i know u are trying to look out for me, cheers man, but the way u say it its as if u hate newbs for being excited about trying roids, we know there is side effects, we know we are young, we know this is serious shit, this is why we are here, but it seems people just hate us for wanting to try them, and we cant ask questions anymore without being told we are young.

[ohlsson]

which advises wait until AT LEAST your mid twenties AND substancial training exp has been gained. now where is your prob in understanding tht? we are tryin to look out 4 u

yeah i know u are trying to look out for me, cheers man, but the way u say it its as if u hate newbs for being excited about trying roids, we know there is side effects, we know we are young, we know this is serious shit, this is why we are here, but it seems people just hate us for wanting to try them, and we cant ask questions anymore without being told we are young.

[dec11]

yeah i know u are trying to look out for me, cheers man, but the way u say it its as if u hate newbs for being excited about trying roids, we know there is side effects, we know we are young, we know this is serious shit, this is why we are here, but it seems people just hate us for wanting to try them, and we cant ask questions anymore without being told we are young.

its not hate, its exasperation! youre told your too young bcos u are, for this. you will grow like the hammers on a sound diet and proper supps like creatine, hmb and zma. i competed from 18 to 32 before i touched gear, thts 14yrs of solid powerlifting, now frm 18 to 20 i gained 28lbs on diet and proper training. my first two cycles were pretty much wasted bcos i didnt eat enuf, proof tht steroids are not a magic wand, thts wat we try to get thru to u pal

[Tdot_T]

Bump

[ohlsson]

its not hate, its exasperation! youre told your too young bcos u are, for this. you will grow like the hammers on a sound diet and proper supps like creatine, hmb and zma. i competed from 18 to 32 before i touched gear, thts 14yrs of solid powerlifting, now frm 18 to 20 i gained 28lbs on diet and proper training. my first two cycles were pretty much wasted bcos i didnt eat enuf, proof tht steroids are not a magic wand, thts wat we try to get thru to u pal

okay man, weldone on ur commitment. well i am working hard and eating well, we know they are not a magic wand, but if they didnt work people woulnd use them though, its better we are on here than not is it not?

[dec11]

okay man, weldone on ur commitment. well i am working hard and eating well, we know they are not a magic wand, but if they didnt work people woulnd use them though, its better we are on here than not is it not?

they are part of a very big picture and part of tht picture is age and experience, which at 19 you havent got and tbh you wont get any sympathy frm any of the other true and exp ppl on here

[ohlsson]

they are part of a very big picture and part of tht picture is age and experience, which at 19 you havent got and tbh you wont get any sympathy frm any of the other true and exp ppl on here

well i dont know about everyone else but im not here for sympathy...

[dec11]

up again, for tht special someone lol

[gsxracer]

I'm glad you dug this thread out for me,

It means that in your heart you have a special place for me,

someday if I ever decide to swing the other way, I'll know who to hit up.



Good Thread, OP!~

[MotoLifter]

And to the top we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for the parrot that read what they are parroting wrong to begin with...


Moto

[Hazard]

I don't get whats hard to understand about this?

If you're 19 and want to ask questions go right ahead..... but if you are still asking general questions..... please refrain from advising someone else on the same shit you asked about.....

I swear it's like some of you sign up to the board to poison the information on here.....

~Haz~

[dec11]

this is getn beyond belief, time for admin to weed a few out me thinks

[Bertuzzi]

Bumping this due to recent activity on the board....

I think marcus made a post about this a little while ago too, but I can't find it to bump it... if anyone has it, they should bump it.

Thanks!

[chuckt12345]

advise about giving advice about giving advice.

sorry i had to

[MBMETC]

Stats please...lol

[Bertuzzi]

advise about giving advice about giving advice.

sorry i had to

lol

Either way is correct.