yea... and im 21. and im already tired of guys that act like an ass all the time.. u think that chix hasnt dated a few asses and doesnt want that bs???
Female Member
yea... and im 21. and im already tired of guys that act like an ass all the time.. u think that chix hasnt dated a few asses and doesnt want that bs???
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**Bojangles69 BF Destroyer**
Official AR writeup
A "bf destroyer" is based on a set of principals whose foundation rests in essential earlier phases of seduction. If these initial phases aren't executed properly the bf destroyer will fail. If at any point during the escalation the bf destroyer is used prematurely, it will fail. If you have no background in pu at all, and this is your first time reading anything like this, it is almost guaranteed that you will fail.
First & foremost, in order for a bf destroyer to work, the target must not know she is being hit on in the first place. This is known as the “indirect method” of pickup. If at any point she mentions her bf as a means of thwarting your advances, she is AWARE you are trying to hit on her. You have failed before you began, no matter what you say or do at this point, she will interpret all of your following behavior as an advance on her. 99% of interactions at this point will turn sour because you have created what is known as a “crippled dynamic”.
It’s the same idea as trying to help someone get over a partner by saying “don’t think about them”. You are FORCING an anchor into the forefront of their mind that will trigger a specific set of emotions to follow. In this case the emotions would be sadness and/or anger. In the case of seducing a woman with a bf, the emotion is GUILT. Remember, guilt can only be triggered in her mind when she is attracted to you. (this refers to earlier phases of seduction). If anything, this entire routine can be summarized by these 4 simple facts. Guilt without her attraction leads to your rejection. Guilt with her attraction leads to your rejection. No guilt with no attraction leads to your rejection. ATTRACTION WITH NO GUILT LEADS TO YOUR ESCALATION.
That last sentence is the only way through.
Now to the method -
We have covered the fact that you have her attracted. (attraction has nothing to do with flirting or seducing, you DO NOT flirt or seduce these women, you attract them first). Once attracted (the 3 phases of attraction can be found anywhere on the net, a bf destroyer is usually ran in “C1” or the first phase of comfort, right after the last phase of attraction – refer to the M3 model for more) properly the target will start qualifying herself to you. Qualifying is simply when a women DHVs to you (demonstrates higher value) and its almost always initiated by you disqualifying her. False disqualifications are a must in the BF destroyer. It does 3 things. One, it conveys you are not hitting on her. Two, it momentarily places her status beneath yours so THREE she will be provoked to qualify back to you. If after you falsely disqualify yourself she does not qualify to you, this means you miscalibrated her level of attraction. You must go back to the A1-A3 phases and start over. Her not qualifying is your warning sign to stop and start over before you attempt a BFD pattern and fail.
A woman WILL NOT qualify to you UNLESS she’s attracted. (again refer to the M3 model for proper qualification tests). After she qualifies, you can assume 2 things. One she is attracted, 2 she is not aware that you are hitting on her. In fact, she should think the exact opposite (cause you have falsely disqualified yourself [ie. “I don’t date ____” anything that is her type]). And remember false disqualifications must be timed right the same as any escalation in a seduction. Try to disqualify her before she’s attracted and she will prob leave all together or think your are weird. That’s why so much depends on calibration skills and timing (again all explained in the complete model).
And before we go any further, remember at NO POINT during or before the interaction do you EVER ask if she has a bf or if she’s single. 90% of avg men fail on this question cause you’ve now hit on her and crippled the dynamic. I shouldn’t even need to say this anymore really. But when she brings up the bf there is 2 ways to go. Some guys do have the skill to bash the bf w/out triggering guilt. These are men with many hours in the field calibrating and responding to these shit tests everyday. Its second nature for these men to fly under the radar like a proper PUA should. However, most men do not share the same skill set, that’s why I recommend emasculating the bf with *compliments.
Remember, she doesn’t know you’re emasculating him. She thinks you’re simply being polite and courteous (when in reality you’re doing anything but).
Before I go to the next step I’ll briefly address what Diamond said about “if you mention my bf I’ll just think of him more and want to be with him”.
First I’ll say this is real simple, in this situation under these dynamics, yes you WILL think about him at some point, but that thought will NOT automatically convert to you wanting him. That’s like you saying if I mention a cup of coffee you will KNOW that you will automatically want a cup. Or if I mention sex with me that you will just want to have sex with me. The truth is you will have no absolutely no idea what you will want until you experience the reality of every sequence that follows that circumstance. If the goal of my entire interaction is to make you attracted to pepsi, and I do it in a strategic, refined and tested manner proven to make people desire pepsi, (w/out you being aware I’m doing it) you may think about coffee, and talk about coffee, but you’re mouth will be watering for a glass of pepsi. And remember pepsi faces the disadvantage of you already knowing what it tastes like, most men don’t. And as the role of novelty comes into play, it always leans towards novelties favor. Novelty is crack for women.
The actual method begins with talking the bf up (with her properly attracted to you and you properly disqualified). It starts at you reiterating his good points, THEN you asking what initially attracted him to her. This will get her to talk about HER positive traits. (which will also at this point go to her head) The core of this concept is based on the fact the men are innately non-committal. And this also works best on short relationships. (for married women there are completely different routines that have been field tested with better results). But it goes like this.
Ask what the bf liked about her.
Ask her now what traits he’s attracted to most about her.
Then third drop the turn around/kicker.
“Wow, I can’t believe with all this going on for yourself that he still hasn’t even committed yet” Most women will agree simply because you’re in rapport at this point and because men are non-committal in nature. If by any chance they try to disagree, it doesn’t matter. Because you redefine committal by conveying what you like in a girl, and what you do when you find a girl who possess those traits.
The trick is to mirror the traits she has just told you back to her, but in your own words. EVEN IF it sounds extremely close to what she said, she will be thinking ITS NOT because she never got the impression at any point that you were coming on to her. Everything must reach a specific threshold before you continue to the next stage. Your status must become higher then her bf in her mind, her level of attraction for you must be higher, and you've level of potential commitment must be higher. After this point you continue escalating comfort and attraction and ideally a number close is not gonna work in your favor here. BF destroyers have a higher sex conversion when isolation is executed the same day (best when isolation is followed up directly afterwards). But isolation must be done exactly as outlined in the model and prior to seduction. Remember, throughout this entire phase you continue to build comfort and trust, while merely *maintaining attraction. Attraction was built in the initial phases, then comfort, then your disqualifications, DHVs, run the BF destroyer, Continue on comfort and trust, isolation, and then finally seduction. And remember, its like dropping a missle on an aids clinic, it was most likely going to end anyway.
This writing was made for ar and more can be found on the complete M3 model at the attractionforums.com. G/luck and I will not be addressing any questions or comments regarding this thread.
This thread will be saved in my archives for further reference.
Peace bitches!
Last edited by Bojangles69; 10-09-2009 at 01:25 AM.
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Bojangles has spoken! If i knew half of the shit you write about in your posts i would be neck deep in pvssy.
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LOL follow this method or follow these steps........
That shit is just cheesy IMO there is no right way to do it, and there are no magic steps involved
if the chick is into you and is ready to cheat then she is gonna cheat
sure you can do your best to not sound like a jackass and not bash the dude shes with now "simply because youve never met him and have no clue what the dude is like"
Ive read those pick up chicks things on the interent and there all bullshit its just a giant advertisment to try and sell books.
Most guys fumble with a hot chick because they get nervous blah blah blah, shes just another person and you have no clue what she is like until you spend alot of time with her.
she could be great or she could be a dumb b1tch.
keep that in mind and figure it out along the way but trying to overanalyze a situation that hasnt even happened yet is just dumb.
Keep in mind one thing and youll be gold. You dont know anything about her so you dont even really know if you like her yet, Thus you shouldnt really have any desire.
If you wait to find out what shes really like before you let yourself form an opinion like you should it will cross over in how you interact with her and youll be more comfortable around her and shell be able to tell either directly or subconsciously.
BE DESIRELESS
Female Member
u kno wat else helps.. tell her ur last gf broke up with you coz ur dick was too big and that ur really sad about it.
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When they say they want a nice guy, what they really mean is they want someone respectful. They don't want someone who is constantly telling them how beautiful they are and giving them whatever they want, but they also don't want someone who is a complete dick. But like Diamond said, they'll choose the dick over the overly nice guyOriginally Posted by stack_it
Female Member
lmao i was jokin...
havin a big dick doesnt mean ur great in bed...
but havin great sex does count, not gonna lie...
Female Member
my perfect guy would be sum1 thats roantic and fun to talk to.. but still independent ad doesnt need me. the thing with you guys.. u date bitches! u guys nvr say yes to those girls that are 'too nice'
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Haha that's not what I was talking about, this is
Female Member
lol oh.. yea most do...
especially if its just sex.. i would choose a hottie thats an ass over the nice cute guy.
but thats coz i eel bad if i hurt him..
Anabolic Member
I told you your BF is a total bitch and you need a real man. /\
Female Member
me? lol
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Thats like reading a book about nutrition and diets and saying "it doesn't work" cause you didn't lose weight.
Well no shit.. try doing more next time then just reading..
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