Advice needed.

[MyFirstTime]

BigKuntry, it just seems hard to believe that I will permanently damage my endocrine system by using Dbol once, and hardly 'abusing' it. Aren't there thousands of people who have stacked probably 5 steroids together and been doing it for YEARS. I'm just wondering how harmful one cycle can truly be, at 30 mg's per day.

[Kibble]

The key is not to limit yourself to 3 meals a day. Your breakfast, lunch and dinner meals are fine. Just try to eat something in between meals. Peanut butter, protein shakes, almonds, tuna, a sandwich, fresh vegetables... anything. Just try to snack more, and do it healthy. Replace those cookies with a whey shake and a bananna

[dec11]

I am sure you have read it before... the damage to your endocrine system. A developing system that needs no alterations. Just because you spent money on dbol does not mean you have to use it. I actually bought cell-tech last year, and I still have it sealed and don't plan on ever using it

i'll have it big k!!!

[Kibble]

BigKuntry, it just seems hard to believe that I will permanently damage my endocrine system by using Dbol once, and hardly 'abusing' it. Aren't there thousands of people who have stacked probably 5 steroids together and been doing it for YEARS. I'm just wondering how harmful one cycle can truly be, at 30 mg's per day.

Ok you use it once. You recover fine. Everything worked out suprisingly. Now who is to say that you will wait 5 years to do it again?

[Kibble]

It is like a pregnant mother. She goes out on the town one night. Drinks a shitload of tequila. Now, there is a chance that the developing baby will be damaged. But there is also a chance that the baby will be fine. A quote that I heard here, which is great is, "Don't gamble with more than what you are willing to use"

[PO OFFICER]

Ok you use it once. You recover fine. Everything worked out suprisingly. Now who is to say that you will wait 5 years to do it again?

You just keep reading my mind.


MyFirstTime...You shouldn't do roids. And since you'll still probably do it, do it the safe way. Have you ever researched anavar? It's one of the mildest steroids out there and you can use it just by it's own. It's only real drawback is that its quite expensive.

The point that me and most of these other guys are telling you is that you shouldn't do roids just yet. Wait until your 24 or 25. That's when you should start. Check out this video of BC. He explains and gives you first hand experience of why you shouldn't take roids in you're teen years.http://www.steroid.com/video/#top

[Kibble]

i'll have it big k!!!

lol that there cell-tech?

I tried it, but it was WAY too filling for me to satisfy my creatine needs. Too much sugar too. Now I just throw a teaspoon of monohydrate into my PWO shake

[MyFirstTime]

Ok you use it once. You recover fine. Everything worked out suprisingly. Now who is to say that you will wait 5 years to do it again?

That's true, good point. But I can form my own decisions at that time and right now I can't see myself doing it again. This first time is the important one though, because I realize that you can do terrible irreversible damage to your body through steroids and I'm just not convinced yet that it's possible through a first cycle.

Back to the diet thing though, I'm assuming cereal isn't the best thing for me....Any other recommendations for a better breakfast? As well, you say it's mostly about snacking in between. So you have your three main meals which should be large in portion and healthy and full of protein at that. And in between those meals should be snacks like fruit?

[Kibble]

You just keep reading my mind.

Seriously dude. Little "Timmy" uses aas. He blows up. Everybody compliments him. He decides to go natural afterwards. Natural gains are coming, but nowhere near the gains of aas. So about 5 months later "Timmy" gets more. before you know it, he is 20 years old, and has 5 cycles under his belt. He is still barely pushing 170lbs. Then he goes to a doctor because he can't recover. Now "Timmy" is 35 years old. He can't pack on muscle for shit, and then he gets older. Now he looks like Arnold (recent-day)

[dec11]

You just keep reading my mind.

someone sounds like a potential scammer

[CHUCKYthentic]

BigKuntry, it just seems hard to believe that I will permanently damage my endocrine system by using Dbol once, and hardly 'abusing' it. Aren't there thousands of people who have stacked probably 5 steroids together and been doing it for YEARS. I'm just wondering how harmful one cycle can truly be, at 30 mg's per day.

YEEES! you never know man, it potentially could!

have u ever had blood work done to check, for example, say your hormone/test levels?

i doubt u have, how do u know if u dont already have low hormonal levels?

cycling now could worsen it, stunt your growth, the list goes on man

[Big]

BigKuntry, it just seems hard to believe that I will permanently damage my endocrine system by using Dbol once, and hardly 'abusing' it. Aren't there thousands of people who have stacked probably 5 steroids together and been doing it for YEARS. I'm just wondering how harmful one cycle can truly be, at 30 mg's per day.

the thing is, it's playing the odds. lots of guys have cycled at your age and were fine, some were not. lots of people have driven drunk and made it home safely, some did not. the fact of the matter is your present size is not being limited by a lack of dbol, you are indeed limited by the sub-standard diet you already mentioned. you can fix your diet and have huge gains that will be permanent with no risk, or you can throw in the dbol for some added bloat and temporary strength coupled with even a slim chance that you screw up your HPTA. why risk it? imagine being 30 and not being able to get an erection because of what seems like no big deal right now. sure it's a slim chance, but the chance exists.

[Kibble]

That's true, good point. But I can form my own decisions at that time and right now I can't see myself doing it again. This first time is the important one though, because I realize that you can do terrible irreversible damage to your body through steroids and I'm just not convinced yet that it's possible through a first cycle.

Back to the diet thing though, I'm assuming cereal isn't the best thing for me....Any other recommendations for a better breakfast? As well, you say it's mostly about snacking in between. So you have your three main meals which should be large in portion and healthy and full of protein at that. And in between those meals should be snacks like fruit?

I would give you ALL the diet advice that I follow... but that is the last thing you need. Look at my avatar. I am holding about 18%bf. Now I did bulk from 170-220 in 2 years, but it wans't the most healthy weight. My diet is poor, and I just changed it thanks to the Diet Forums

[Big]

Back to the diet thing though, I'm assuming cereal isn't the best thing for me....Any other recommendations for a better breakfast? As well, you say it's mostly about snacking in between. So you have your three main meals which should be large in portion and healthy and full of protein at that. And in between those meals should be snacks like fruit?

this question makes it obvious you didn't even read the diet link I posted. I'm out, good luck.

[MyFirstTime]

YEEES! you never know man, it potentially could!

have u ever had blood work done to check, for example, say your hormone/test levels?

i doubt u have, how do u know if u dont already have low hormonal levels?

cycling now could worsen it, stunt your growth, the list goes on man

You're right I should have my hormone levels tested, I wouldn't have thought of that myself. Furthermore...what levels would be reasonable for steroid usage, high hormone levels?

I really wouldn't be worried about the stunted growth, i'm already 6'3. You're just giving me reasons to use them. just kidding

[PO OFFICER]

the thing is, it's playing the odds. lots of guys have cycled at your age and were fine, some were not. lots of people have driven drunk and made it home safely, some did not. the fact of the matter is your present size is not being limited by a lack of dbol, you are indeed limited by the sub-syandard diet you already mentioned. you can fix your diet and have huge gains that will be permanent with no risk, or you can throw in the dbol for some added bloat and temporary strength coupled with even a slim chance that you screw up your HPTA. why risk it? imagine being 30 and not being able to get an erection because of what seems like no big deal right now. sure it's a slim chance, but the chance exists.

Yes, great advice. You can bulk up the natural way. Like BigKuntry said, don't risk more than your willing to loose.

someone sounds like a potential scammer

great input on helping this guy make his decisions. Instead of you just ripping on me, how about you help with constructive criticism?

[Kibble]

Yes, great advice. You can bulk up the natural way. Like BigKuntry said, don't risk more than your willing to loose.


great input on helping this guy make his decisions. Instead of you just ripping on me, how about you help with constructive criticism?

lol don't give me credit for that quote... don't want any plagarism

[PO OFFICER]

Here make sure you read this entire page. You're rising this and more by using roids. (especially dbol)http://www.steroid.com/side.php

[MyFirstTime]

this question makes it obvious you didn't even read the diet link I posted. I'm out, good luck.

Okay, now that hurts, really.

I checked out the link you gave me and scanned over it. It just seemed like too much information for me; I'm just looking for a simple solution. I'm not so much interested in the 'why we eat what we eat' part, but more of the tell me three-five things to eat, and how much of it.

[dec11]

You're right I should have my hormone levels tested, I wouldn't have thought of that myself. Furthermore...what levels would be reasonable for steroid usage, high hormone levels?

I really wouldn't be worried about the stunted growth, i'm already 6'3. You're just giving me reasons to use them. just kidding

why in honour of f**k wud u go and get ur hormones tested for, at the age of 18?????!!!!! at your age its body type your interested in!! tell me how long you have been training for and what sort of training you do? i do usually charge for this you know lol

[feeldapump89]

Eat your veggies and drink your milk kid

[PO OFFICER]

Eat your veggies and drink your milk kid

Hahahaha :P

[MyFirstTime]

the thing is, it's playing the odds. lots of guys have cycled at your age and were fine, some were not. lots of people have driven drunk and made it home safely, some did not. the fact of the matter is your present size is not being limited by a lack of dbol, you are indeed limited by the sub-standard diet you already mentioned. you can fix your diet and have huge gains that will be permanent with no risk, or you can throw in the dbol for some added bloat and temporary strength coupled with even a slim chance that you screw up your HPTA. why risk it? imagine being 30 and not being able to get an erection because of what seems like no big deal right now. sure it's a slim chance, but the chance exists.

Good point, I feel like an ass but it's just so tempting especially when you have it..

On another note... the day I can't get an erection will be a sad, sad day. I'd be interested in knowing the actual percentages on all these stats. For example, the chance that you have in getting ED, or even how likely you are in simply getting acne.

[dec11]

Eat your veggies and drink your milk kid

thts useful, wat was ur response to tht wen u wer 18? or have u 4got?

[MyFirstTime]

why in honour of f**k wud u go and get ur hormones tested for, at the age of 18?????!!!!! at your age its body type your interested in!! tell me how long you have been training for and what sort of training you do? i do usually charge for this you know lol

Sorry I don't really understand what you said there ... I would get my hormone levels tested because a guy before you suggested that having a certain level can be even worse for you when taking steroids.

Well i'm not a hardcore weight lifter, but I go to the gym atleast 4 days per week, for about a year and a half.

[CHUCKYthentic]

that was just a scenario kid, not telling u to go do it. jesus....

[dec11]

ud b a shot in millions if you hadnt normal test levels for your age. u get the horn? you surf porn at least, let me see, 100 times a day?

[dec11]

that was just a scenario kid, not telling u to go do it. jesus....

lol, keeping real

[Kibble]

I don't see a point to living anymore if I couldn't get an erection

[PistolPete33]

What the hell is with all these posts with these little kids wanting to do steroids... WTF!!!!! This kid even got his hands on stuff that he doesn't know anything about. He's gonna have a limp dick for the rest of his life.

[MyFirstTime]

ud b a shot in millions if you hadnt normal test levels for your age. u get the horn? you surf porn at least, let me see, 100 times a day?

Alright you guys are just turning nasty. I thought he was serious about getting my hormone levels tested for the steroids. I guess you guys have given me all the answers I need for tonight, thanks for the help.

[dec11]

Alright you guys are just turning nasty. I thought he was serious about getting my hormone levels tested for the steroids. I guess you guys have given me all the answers I need for tonight, thanks for the help.

dont take it personal, they aint being off wit u, just trying steer you in the rite direction. look, put this way, roids wont make you superman, hell 6 cycles on and im still plain old spiderman, but im spinning tht web and sum day it'll trap superman, the c**t. keep plugging away for 5 years , and even see if you enjoy weight training 1st. three lifts, squat, bench and deadlift, hit them

[MyFirstTime]

What the hell is with all these posts with these little kids wanting to do steroids... WTF!!!!! This kid even got his hands on stuff that he doesn't know anything about. He's gonna have a limp dick for the rest of his life.

Seriously? YOU yourself have no idea what you're even talking about. What is this idiotic terminology you're using first of all, calling me a kid? Do you even know what a kid is? It's a baby goat man, and you know how it becomes a goat, by definition? When it goes through puberty. Now tell me how in ANY WAY I am a kid.

I've read your posts, all you do is put other people down and say useless, unhelpful stuff to people. I'm on here because I'm looking for help and advice, and I admit to not knowing a lot which is why I'm here. You clearly have NO place on this forum posting like an un-educated prick, proven by 90% of your posts.

sorry I had to get that out of my system...

[PistolPete33]

Seriously? YOU yourself have no idea what you're even talking about. What is this idiotic terminology you're using first of all, calling me a kid? Do you even know what a kid is? It's a baby goat man, and you know how it becomes a goat, by definition? When it goes through puberty. Now tell me how in ANY WAY I am a kid.

I've read your posts, all you do is put other people down and say useless, unhelpful stuff to people. I'm on here because I'm looking for help and advice, and I admit to not knowing a lot which is why I'm here. You clearly have NO place on this forum posting like an un-educated prick, proven by 90% of your posts.

sorry I had to get that out of my system...

At 18 you're still a kid. I'm sorry but I'm just being honest. The only reason I'm so harsh is because I'm sure you're not going to listen to anone on here and still do a cycle when you are NOT READY. The reason we are so harsh to people like yourself is because we truly don't want you to cause all types of future problems. At your age your natural Test levels are as high as they will be so there is no need for AAS at this time. Wait another 6-8 years and eat a ton and then look at AAS. Sorry for being a dick but it's frustrating because none of the young kids that come here take any advice and they still continue with AAS use. I was 18 before and I know how you think you're Superman but honestly you're not and in 15 years you'll realize that.

[Kibble]

Us old farts are trying to get our test levels to be like yours

[dec11]

look mate, ur gona get tht based on the backs of a thousand b4 you, just ignore the non productive rants, i can tell by your grammar, you're not thick, so, put those dbols in2 storage

[dec11]

Us old farts are trying to get our test levels to be like yours

Quote of the night, if we had your levels rite now, we wouldnt b chase the backwards rainbow lol, no cocoon jokes needed

[Solomon]

Seriously? YOU yourself have no idea what you're even talking about. What is this idiotic terminology you're using first of all, calling me a kid? Do you even know what a kid is? It's a baby goat man, and you know how it becomes a goat, by definition? When it goes through puberty. Now tell me how in ANY WAY I am a kid.

I've read your posts, all you do is put other people down and say useless, unhelpful stuff to people. I'm on here because I'm looking for help and advice, and I admit to not knowing a lot which is why I'm here. You clearly have NO place on this forum posting like an un-educated prick, proven by 90% of your posts.

sorry I had to get that out of my system...

I can tell you're not going to take the advice of others and stay off the gear so here's my input.

I assume you haven't had much lifting expericance yeah? If you go to the gym your beginner gains will be anywhere from 10-15kgs in your first 6months to a year, providing you eat right.

I noticed you said you weren't after reading all that information you just want something easy. This isnt easy mate. Sure take a few pills and you will maybe gain a few kilos (which won't happen if you aren't eating properly), but have you thought of the after effects? Within 3-4months you will be back to your skinny self, if not skinnier due to your natural test being shut down. Trust me, learn how to eat, lift and sleep and you will excel.

tl;dr
Learn to eat, sleep and train properly. You will see way more gains then taking a few pills.

[dec11]

I can tell you're not going to take the advice of others and stay off the gear so here's my input.

I assume you haven't had much lifting expericance yeah? If you go to the gym your beginner gains will be anywhere from 10-15kgs in your first 6months to a year, providing you eat right.

I noticed you said you weren't after reading all that information you just want something easy. This isnt easy mate. Sure take a few pills and you will maybe gain a few kilos (which won't happen if you aren't eating properly), but have you thought of the after effects? Within 3-4months you will be back to your skinny self, if not skinnier due to your natural test being shut down. Trust me, learn how to eat, lift and sleep and you will excel.

tl;dr
Learn to eat, sleep and train properly. You will see way more gains then taking a few pills.

now, this is wat you wanna listen to.

[big_k]

From reading the posts by OP, I believe he is under the impression that He is going to Take Steroids and look like a BodyBuilder.


Bro the amount of drugs you put into your body will not matter, You don't know how to diet, you don't know how to train, You're going to gain a few lbs THAT YOU CAN DO NATURALLY, and You're possibly setting yourself up for problems for the rest of your life

"maybe it'll give me a short term inspiration on what I CAN look like which will in turn cause me to work harder and 'legit'..
"

You eat 3 meals a day, I can bet some members here eat more in ONE or TWO of their SIX or SEVEN MEALS, than you do all day.

Don't be a stubborn dumb kid, you want to look good, everyone does, start with the foundation.