Vatican Library, March 2010 the 20th (alone...)

[BJJ]

i would like to know about how the theory of evolution is incorrect as i am in that field, though i don't believe it

Read post 68 and 70 to have a basement idea.
If you want to study on your own, let me know and I will give you names and books accessible to everyone.

Regarding the skeleton, I have a few things to say...

[kalspic]

damn, alot of ignorance in this thread.

I don't care if you're religious or not. It's not about that.

There is a TON of historical information in that library.

And if you can't understand the importance of preserving important historical texts,

Then I feel sorry for you.

EDIT: And it was the pope's brother, Georg Ratzinger, who is helping in an investigation, but was not himself actually accused of any wrong doing.

shame, the second people read the title they instantly assumed religion.

[MotoLifter]

shame, the second people read the title they instantly assumed religion.

was just thinking that EXACT same thing. tradjic.

enjoy BJJ, for all of us who will never.


Moto

[Mooseman33]

D7M and BJJ.....class acts....

[Hunter]

Stuff on martin luther would be cool or historical info on crusades.

[BJJ]

Stuff on martin luther would be cool or historical info on crusades.

I took notice of it.

[Hunter]

I took notice of it.

Thank you for that. I am very very interested in martin luther and have read a few of his books. Thanks Bjj

[Flagg]

Darwin IS the man.

[BJJ]

Darwin IS the man.

While Saint Joan of Arc was a woman...

[Mooseman33]

^^^^^

like i said, class act....

[l2elapse]

information on the the mormon religion by any chance in there?

[BJJ]

information on the the mormon religion by any chance in there?

I can tell you anything you want right away, lol
You really do not need The Vatican Library for that.

[BJJ]

any mention of ancient accounts of alien encounters?

I found nothing about that, sorry.
In any case, it does not necessarily means it does not exist some sort of proof somewhere among those thousands of scripts.

oooo ok thanks. so who exactly can enter it? im interested if they have anything on alexander the great, or anythig around the time period. also the early days of the Holy Roman Empire.

I found two documents in regard of Alexander III of Macedon.
The first was a kind of map drew up in the XIII century with the extension of his empire, which included, differently from what we used to know, the actual Romania, Moldova and Ukraine.
The second was about his death, written in Ancient Macedonian with a Latin translation, and I presume was looking at a post-mortem examination. Well, it seems he died after having ingested a huge quantity of alcool in a very short period of time (forced to?). This infused his pancreas to almost liquefy and to pour its pancreatic juice into the abdominal cavity, perforating the intestine. After a few days of coma and after having had excruciating pains, he died.
Also, it was reported his organism was weak because of a malaria infection he took years before.
Also, he did not die in Babylon but in an unknown place.

Regarding The Roman Empire, there were so many things..., lol.
One amongst all is that Nero, Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus, did not burn Rome!
I can go deeper if you are interested...

Stuff on martin luther would be cool or historical info on crusades.

The 1st January 1521 with the Papal bull Decet Romanum Pontificem, Leone X condemned Martin Luther to death with accusation of heresy.
This document was translated either in Latin and German and the seal of the Pope was still well visible.
Of course, the historical facts as we know them are different and apparently 2 days later the Pope signed a new Papal bull excommunicating Martin Luther; the known version.

Regarding the Crusades, there was a bunch of scripts but since I am not very knowledgeable on that topic, I could not start reading them all. I would have wasted too much time.
Sorry.

information on the the mormon religion by any chance in there?

I searched for some information but nothing was in there. Anyway, as stated before, I can tell you anything you want and make you, surely, unhappy.
So, think about before asking.

[Nooomoto]

You guys better not get out of hand...or this guy and his friends will come and sort you out!! And if you do get out of hand...you better not do it at a circus, or you'll never see them coming!

[Friend]

I bet there is an abundance of kiddy porn

[kalspic]

ALRIGHT GUYS, LETS COOL THIS THREAD DOWN AND STICK TO THE TOPIC. its interesting indeed, very very few get this oppertunity so lets see what bjj can do for us.

any more ideas on what to look for guys?

[BJJ]

was just thinking that EXACT same thing. tradjic.

enjoy BJJ, for all of us who will never.


Moto

I will, thanks.

I bet there is an abundance of kiddy porn

No comment.
In any case, if you are interested in that sort of material, you can go to Sweden...
http://www.thelocal.se/18704/20090406/

ALRIGHT GUYS, LETS COOL THIS THREAD DOWN AND STICK TO THE TOPIC. its interesting indeed, very very few get this oppertunity so lets see what bjj can do for us.

any more ideas on what to look for guys?

That is all I was asking for, to have cues on topics to look for since I have only one day time in a place where an entire life time would not be enough.

Why is this understood only by a few?
... or, Why is this not understood by the majority?

[kalspic]

its slowly turning into a religous thread. darwinism and evolution are connected to christianity(probably any religion at that).

i and others should respect each owns oppion and i will. im ignorant to this whole topic nor do i care much at all. im more interested in the historical aspect of this whole topic.

[BJJ]

Last opportunity, countdown has started.
Minus 11 hours...

[BJJ]

By the way Flagg, by the end of September current year, the Library will be open again.
Of course, only the public section...

[Flagg]

You know what evolution is? A lot of it is basically mutations and the mutants happen to do better at their job then their parents, so will reproduce creating more mutants.

Why do you think there are constant new pesticides being created to battle crop pests? Because mutants happen to have a natural resistance and will have far superior reproductive success.

[BJJ]

You know what evolution is? A lot of it is basically mutations and the mutants happen to do better at their job then their parents, so will reproduce creating more mutants.

Why do you think there are constant new pesticides being created to battle crop pests? Because mutants happen to have a natural resistance and will have far superior reproductive success.

Said in avery easy way... yes, I know what evolution is.
The point here is, what you do not know about it since humans (as we are today) were living more than 3 millions here ago and there are many proofs of this, not only the skeletons which would be enough anyway, do not you think?

Families of primate apperard in the Pleistocene period as well as the archeological findings of the humans.
The point is we did not evolve from primate but colonized the planet with them.
The Homo Sapiens was already "wise" in the Pleistocene and if you had studied archaeology and anthropology you knew that there are many evidences of this facts in several excavations in the XIX and XX century.
Unfortunately, those scientists who did go against Darwin's theory (who had great connections with the Freemasonry, what a case!!!) lost their jobs when tried to divulge what found and some others simply disappeared.

I just spoke about the surface...

You seem to be a clever man so, do not let them fool you.

[stevey_6t9]

Said in avery easy way... yes, I know what evolution is.
The point here is, what you do not know about it since humans (as we are today) were living more than 3 millions here ago and there are many proofs of this, not only the skeletons which would be enough anyway, do not you think?

Families of primate apperard in the Pleistocene period as well as the archeological findings of the humans.
The point is we did not evolve from primate but colonized the planet with them.
The Homo Sapiens was already "wise" in the Pleistocene and if you had studied archaeology and anthropology you knew that there are many evidences of this facts in several excavations in the XIX and XX century.
Unfortunately, those scientists who did go against Darwin's theory (who had great connections with the Freemasonry, what a case!!!) lost their jobs when tried to divulge what found and some others simply disappeared.

I just spoke about the surface...

You seem to be a clever man so, do not let them fool you.

incorrect, homo sapiens only immersed 120 000 years ago. The homo 'genus' immersed 3 million years ago

[BJJ]

So evolution aside, what did you learn there BJJ?

Anything on the Devil? I ask because I watched a debate this morning on the existence of the devil, which made a nice change from people talking about the existence of God.

Anyways, did you read/learn about anything concerning that?

No, sorry.

incorrect, homo sapiens only immersed 120 000 years ago. The homo 'genus' immersed 3 million years ago

[BJJ]

incorrect, homo sapiens only immersed 120 000 years ago. The homo 'genus' immersed 3 million years ago

You are right, I was incorrect since I looked at those documents again and they stated 3.6 millions, as the oldest skeleton.
Sorry.

[BJJ]

-3 Hours...

[BJJ]

Furthermore Flagg, think about what would happen in the world, how the world polulation would react on the news that we as humans were here onto this planet together with the primates, in the Pleistocene, that the Darwin's theory is just wrong and that scientists do not know really how the human being showed up on the Earth.
Also Christianity had to accept Darwin's ideas to make sense with scientists in order to give to the common people a starting point for us in this dimension.

These are simple reasons for which, to keep people down, they do not reveal what they know.
The humanity would be panic-striken if knew the reality of the things and The Vatican, to name one among all, would lose its mental power in a matter of a very short time...

Think about.

[BJJ]

Going...
Wish ME Luck!

[BJJ]

I just came back and I am worn-out.
My eyes are burning...

I have some answers for those who asked questions, just not tonight.
Also, it was an illuminating day.

PS
Sorry marcus but my camera was taken since I went through a body scanner.
Since a few weeks, you can find them either at the Fiumicino Apt, as well as in critical security area of Rome.
What a luck, I would say.

[KimboHalfSlice]

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[BJJ]

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I am glad for you, decided to get rid of the ignorant things you have written yesterday!

Perhaps, you are growing up...

[KimboHalfSlice]

I am glad for you, decided to get rid of the ignorant things you have written yesterday!

Perhaps, you are growing up...

When I read it a second time it came across as more of an insult at you than at the Catholic Church.

I've no reason to insult you, I actually like reading your posts, especially the stuff about Anavar.

I harbour a lot of resentment for the Catholic Church but that's no reason for me to insult you.

[BJJ]

When I read it a second time it came across as more of an insult at you than at the Catholic Church.

I've no reason to insult you, I actually like reading your posts, especially the stuff about Anavar. be ready for the test susp then...

I harbour a lot of resentment for the Catholic Church but that's no reason for me to insult you.

I am glad you had the will and took the time to read again what you wrote but mostly the way.

Instrospection is a sign of intelligence.

[smokeyd]

yup proven and theory dont go so good

[amcon]

cool enjoy !!!! any cool unknow things would be interesting

[Hunter]

Very cool thanks Bjj.

[kalspic]

thats awesome bjj i have some research to do. you are one lucky fellow.

[DCI]

Mad that you got in there to have a look at these pieces of sensitive information. How did you remember it all or where you allowed to take notes etc? Amazing that they left you in there at all and fair dues to you for even thinking about sharing it with people.

What was the most surprising piece of text you find?

[BJJ]

Mad that you got in there to have a look at these pieces of sensitive information. How did you remember it all or where you allowed to take notes etc? Amazing that they left you in there at all and fair dues to you for even thinking about sharing it with people.

What was the most surprising piece of text you find?

Without taking into account the skeletons which I already knew about, I would say "Atlantis", which existed indeed.

[.45Caliber]

Would you please tell us more about Atlantis? What did you read about it? etc...