Testosterone Propionate: Shooting ED vs EOD

[Td00]

Very interesting thread!

I guess the ideal is too keep your test levels as stable as possible for max. gains.

[bjpennnn]

im in week 12 of test prop cycle and have injected eod and have had no sides to speek of and have consistantly felt great so i guess you have to try them both and see what you think....id start out with eod and if its not working for you then try ed but make shure whichever on you do first that you try it for a few weeks for some experience to make a better comparison....my 2 cents...

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[anabolix112]

Anyone thought that the saw pattern might actually in many fields keep your mind over your body not letting it adapt. Just my 1.5 cents

[Noles12]

Having never shot EOD with prop and only ED, i would not be able to compare the two. But this cycle i am running tren ED also. I have noticed my sides are much less in comparison to when i shot it EOD last cycle. That is from my personal experience though.

[baseline_9]

BUMPing this one as its good info for everyone

[dec11]

ive done eod and ed with prop and it made sod all difference

[AlphaMaleDawg]

ive done eod and ed with prop and it made sod all difference

what is sod? Are you saying it did make a big difference when u shot every day?

[dec11]

sod all = no diff lol

[AlphaMaleDawg]

sod all = no diff lol

gotchya. I really dont want to pin every day so I think I will stick to EOD for my first prop cycle

[dec11]

gotchya. I really dont want to pin every day so I think I will stick to EOD for my first prop cycle

yeah, ed soon becomes a big fookin chore

[gymfu]

I don't get what the big deal is with pinning, I kinda like it. Maybe I'm sick.

I'm everyday with everything on my next one, we'll see how things go.

[anabolix112]

Having never shot EOD with prop and only ED, i would not be able to compare the two. But this cycle i am running tren ED also. I have noticed my sides are much less in comparison to when i shot it EOD last cycle. That is from my personal experience though.

Just curious, what kind of sides are you getting ?

Yes my question is relevant and gotta admit i rather shot prop eod or sometimes even three days break. Have done it ed aswell but well, i got my own theory and experiments. Not about pinning at all, or wasn't even lack of gear but well i would be intrested about the side effets ppl are talking here with EOD shots and then i shall continue.

[BigIce]

A buddy of mine pins himself ed because he feels less pain that way, less mg per shot.

Not sure if you consider prop pain a side but.....

[Noles12]

A buddy of mine pins himself ed because he feels less pain that way, less mg per shot.

Not sure if you consider prop pain a side but.....

Usually it is the concentration that would make AAS more painful. Not just taking in more at once. You could have one dosed at 100 mg/ml and the other at 200 mg/ml, yet if you were to take an equivalent dose (say 75 mg) of each, you will more than likely experience more pain from the 200 mg/ml one

Prop in general is more painful than other longer esters but i personally dont have any problems therefore i shoot ED for stable blood levels.

[anabolix112]

Usually it is the concentration that would make AAS more painful. Not just taking in more at once. You could have one dosed at 100 mg/ml and the other at 200 mg/ml, yet if you were to take an equivalent dose (say 75 mg) of each, you will more than likely experience more pain from the 200 mg/ml one

Prop in general is more painful than other longer esters but i personally dont have any problems therefore i shoot ED for stable blood levels.

People often talk about keeping the blood levels stable. Anyone considered the fact that body usually adapts more easilly everything that is too stable ? Hence propably losing its efficiency in some cases ?

[BigIce]

Personally I don´t think that the pain should matter at all, only the results and health while on, yeah and the least possible sides.
If doing ed shots gives some users less sides then I am going with ed, if it is going to hurt like a bitch I sure wont cry like a bitch.

No pain no gain they say.

Personally I felt no diff from sust or enth even tho there is prop in the sust, so I am not worried.

Just wanted to tell you guys why this friend of mine does ed over eod, not stating that less mg gives you less pain, just his way

[anabolix112]

Personally I don´t think that the pain should matter at all, only the results and health while on, yeah and the least possible sides.
If doing ed shots gives some users less sides then I am going with ed, if it is going to hurt like a bitch I sure wont cry like a bitch.

No pain no gain they say.

Personally I felt no diff from sust or enth even tho there is prop in the sust, so I am not worried.

Just wanted to tell you guys why this friend of mine does ed over eod, not stating that less mg gives you less pain, just his way

Now someone tell me about the sides you're experiencing with EOD shots ?

Are they sides or just mark that you have managed to fool your body and receptors are just getting hungry ?

[Noles12]

People often talk about keeping the blood levels stable. Anyone considered the fact that body usually adapts more easilly everything that is too stable ? Hence propably losing its efficiency in some cases ?

Please show me something to support this. I have never personally heard that keeping blood levels stable on a 8 week cycle would cause it to lose its efficiency.

Stable blood levels mean les fluctuation in hormones. Fluctuation in hormones can cause many unwanted sides that i personally would rather not deal with.

As i said earlier, i have run tren EOD and tren ED. EOD my sides were much worse including acne and night sweats. From now on i will only inject ED when it comes to shorter estered compounds

[Noles12]

Personally I don´t think that the pain should matter at all, only the results and health while on, yeah and the least possible sides.
If doing ed shots gives some users less sides then I am going with ed, if it is going to hurt like a bitch I sure wont cry like a bitch.

No pain no gain they say.

Personally I felt no diff from sust or enth even tho there is prop in the sust, so I am not worried.

Just wanted to tell you guys why this friend of mine does ed over eod, not stating that less mg gives you less pain, just his way

I wasnt saying you were stating that that was the way it should be done. I just was describing the common reason for pain in that situation and i thought your friend may not have understood

[JBarron]

I would like to pin everyday, but I'm only comfortable with pinning delts, and quads. I wouldn't think it'd be too bad if you pinned each evening before bed.

Has anyone else pinned prop ED while only rotating 4 sites?

[Noles12]

I would like to pin everyday, but I'm only comfortable with pinning delts, and quads. I wouldn't think it'd be too bad if you pinned each evening before bed.

Has anyone else pinned prop ED while only rotating 4 sites?

Have you tried any other sites? I would never pin ED on only 4 sites. I wouldnt even go EOD on only 4 sites. That will cause a lot of scar tissue that can be avoided by just using more sites.

[anabolix112]

Please show me something to support this. I have never personally heard that keeping blood levels stable on a 8 week cycle would cause it to lose its efficiency.

Stable blood levels mean les fluctuation in hormones. Fluctuation in hormones can cause many unwanted sides that i personally would rather not deal with.

As i said earlier, i have run tren EOD and tren ED. EOD my sides were much worse including acne and night sweats. From now on i will only inject ED when it comes to shorter estered compounds

Thats understandable in that case and with those compounds then since you have individual experience what suits you and propably thats the case with most of use.

Can't really give anything to support that else than both ways have their benefits when it comes to me. And not going to change subject to another example which would be rather offtopic under this subject and not my call to share even if i wanted to. Ok admit i might sound like jerk even taking that last sentence here and may only raise eyebrows and more questions than answers.

Perhaps i linked some of my previous night sweats (tho im always like owen) to possible cause when i was doing tren. Prop ,well ok that and alcohol based test really tell they're on system and running hard. Never really got acne but sure without sun or replacement version of that during winter that would propably be a problem in some cases and substances.

Thanks

[JBarron]

Have you tried any other sites? I would never pin ED on only 4 sites. I wouldnt even go EOD on only 4 sites. That will cause a lot of scar tissue that can be avoided by just using more sites.

Ive tried glutes, but it was to uncomfortable, and positioning myself to hold the pin steady was nearly impossible.

Hit a nerve or vein their once, and it scared me away.

I've been recommended ventro-gluteal, it's kind of the lower hip area, but I was to chicken shiit to try it lol

[Noles12]

Ive tried glutes, but it was to uncomfortable, and positioning myself to hold the pin steady was nearly impossible.

Hit a nerve or vein their once, and it scared me away.

I've been recommended ventro-gluteal, it's kind of the lower hip area, but I was to chicken shiit to try it lol

There is lots of other sites. You just have to get over being nervous and shoot.

Glutes cant be that hard for you. I weigh 265 pounds and shoot my glutes all the time. I use a mirror rather than trying to twist my head around to see.

Pecs are easy, bis are good, some like tris (not me personally), ventorgluteal is good but some find it difficult to find, delts have multiple heads as do bis, i wouldnt recommend calves and i will never try them personally (too many horror stories). Thats just a few and after the virgin muscle pain its all easy

[JBarron]

There is lots of other sites. You just have to get over being nervous and shoot.

Glutes cant be that hard for you. I weigh 265 pounds and shoot my glutes all the time. I use a mirror rather than trying to twist my head around to see.

Pecs are easy, bis are good, some like tris (not me personally), ventorgluteal is good but some find it difficult to find, delts have multiple heads as do bis, i wouldnt recommend calves and i will never try them personally (too many horror stories). Thats just a few and after the virgin muscle pain its all easy

Yeah I did use a mirror when shooting glutes, it's just after I hit that nerve it scared me away.

You'd recommend 1 inch anywhere on the arm right?

[manwitplans]

So this actually states:
If you shoot enanthate ED you'll have a much higher concentration of test in your bloodstream after a while den prop ED?

And, much more stable levels for gains and for reducing sideeffects? Wow..
So is shooting test e ED, or all longer esters the way to go?

[JinNtonic]

IMO Shooting Long esters ED would be like shooting Prop 3 time a day. Yes more stable.

I have mentioned this before but nobody seemed to agree. I like Long esters shot more frequently...

[manwitplans]

IMO Shooting Long esters ED would be like shooting Prop 3 time a day. Yes more stable.

I have mentioned this before but nobody seemed to agree. I like Long esters shot more frequently...

How frequently to be exact?