Ya, I got some Rips and the outter boxes/labels came seperately, which pretty much was a red flag for me (source claims he gets them straight from the pharm and specifically tells them not to label them so they're easier to ship). Also, the vials don't sit in the plastic trays like I feel they would if they were actually manufactured together.
Frawnz - That is how Riptropin is sent, with the packaging seperate to the vials - a very dubious practise for obvious reasons.
Fossilfuel - I'd imagine that your source got fed up with people querying the packaging being seperate and decided to label & box them himself and was in a hurry to do so!
I have been getting all the right sides from my Rips but have wondered for some time if our blind faith in the side effects was unfounded...
I thought I was getting some water weight gain for first 4 weeks from the Rips at 5iu..but it must have been placebo effect and then I found out that it wasn't doing crap..no rise in blood pressure, no rise in BG levels, no improved sleep, no rise in IGF levels from test..even after I bumped it up to 10ius per day...still NOTHING..and that was after 3 months.
You said it best.."blind faith"..which is what I had when I started.
I will never buy anything from CHina again. I'll just wait until I am rich and buy American or Euro brand I guess
PLus..I also found out that the Chinese are masters at using fillers that cause side effects..pretty much like what Xtralarg stated at the start of this thread. It's true..and I heard that from a very reliable source.
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I tried to take the pic that has the batch no. out but couldn t do it.. I don t care that is there but idk if it should. feel free to edit it out if you need 2.
I am not an expert man but if there is a seal it probably should be untouched.
I buy mine from China. It wasn’t having CTS at the start until I raised my dosage to 8 iu that when I started having signs of CTS. However, from the start I always notice white flakes when I reconstitute.
A lot of people say most generics that are legit are under dosed. Usually you will get what you pay for. Just how it is most times. I started getting side effects at 3iu. I know that varies from person to person but at 8iu I imagine there has to be noticeable sides. When I got up to 5iu at first took me months to slowly climb and my hands were super numb and cts was kicking in, super wild dreams also. It was intense until I got used to it.
i am so confused at this point ha.
In the past ive used Lilly,saizen and Genotropin pens and with all of these brands I'v have amazing results over time, but since ive been using Chinese gh ive had complete crap sent to me, ive had AI's disguised as gh from a well know supplier!!! and ive had side effects what mimic gh, but with legit gh you seem to get used to the water retention and over a short period of time it disappears but with the latest Chinese GH the water stays with you which makes alot of people think you have genuine GH but in reality you just have fake. I feel China have all sides cover to fool us all, it would be nice to get a lab test done and have some hard evidence
New to this thread only took me 4 days to read the whole thing....So had BW done on 12/21/10 for HGH serum levels...and this is what I did...
Fast 12 hours
Injected 10ius **'s yellow caps with labels SQ 50mins before test.
So my HGH serum levels were 5.6 the range was 0-6....so this only tells me I'm at the high end of there scale but not crazy over and not low so I'm still up in the air...with the HGH I have....so I guess I need to do a control test and then also test using tev tropin.
Has anyone ever heard of ???? They have an elaborate web page and great customer service. My package came within seven days and had all the right bells and whistles. I got all the sides one may look for, but stopped taking it because of all the phony hoopla. Thanks for your time I am new to this sight and look forward to hearing from people in the know.
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Has anyone ever heard of pro.com?????? They have an elaborate web page and great customer service. My package came within seven days and had all the right bells and whistles. I got all the sides one may look for, but stopped taking it because of all the phony hoopla. Thanks for your time I am new to this sight and look forward to hearing from people in the know.
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Has anyone ever heard of o.com?????? They have an elaborate web page and great customer service. My package came within seven days and had all the right bells and whistles. I got all the sides one may look for, but stopped taking it because of all the phony hoopla. Thanks for your time I am new to this sight and look forward to hearing from people in the know.
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....... we can speculate till blue in the face.... When they offer all these rainbow tops at dirt cheap prices..... Thats when u contact them and tell them I'll distribute for yall but first before i buy 100 kits or whatever, send me ONE for legitimacy testing and if g2g.... we got a deal. Watch how they respond= indicator #1. and if they do agree and do send... you set up testing.
.... and there is a guy on here that i been using to test mine for over 2 years... hes g2g FOR SURE.
Wow!! really glad I found this thread. I was just about to buy the hyge blue tops and thought i would check on here and see what you guys thought of them. Looks like I saved myself $600 and a lot of disappointment. Thanks everyone for all the great information, I have really learned a lot from this website
Stick with ONLY pharma grade HGH. These generics are too up and down right now.
There were only a couple I even would have tried and now they are not even worthy.
Thanks. I'll read more about peptides.
By the way, if Anavar is indeed most faked steroid, then, how do you test if the Anavar or any other steroid you've is genuine? Is there any test you can do at home or does it require mass-spectro (like HGH)?
Yep - I have no intention of buying generic HGH (unless I had access to a lab that could test it for me). I was thinking of maybe going to another country (don't know which - still researching) where doctors prescribe it with relative ease. I am still researching
- 1. which country and
- 2. if I did get prescription for it in another country, am I even allowed to bring it back to Canada?
That said, based on EasyDoesIt's advise, I am now also looking into peptides. Maybe I don't need HGH - it's anyway too expensive and too hard to get prescribed at age 30ish. If there is something else out there (like peptides) then maybe that's the way to go.
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Remember you can not ask for sources, THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT YOUR QUESTIONS AND REMEMBER YOU ARE ON THE INTERNET. Anyone can access this forum. This forum stays up and running because there is no selling or soliciting. If you were on a forum that openly answered that question you would be open bait for scammers. That question on here alone can bring scammers to you.
HGH is such a joke and is a waste of money, stick to AAS.
Hgh is actually quite awesome for changing your body. I am shocked at where the last 7 months has brought me. I actually love the stuff.Originally Posted by frostfire
If you are looking for size and weight then yes hgh is not going to be your best ally. At the point I am at, I am no longer looking to run things like dbol and deca to put on sloppy weight. I want quality not quantity. Plus when aas growth slows over time hgh can re kick in your gaining process. It's actually quite miraculous.
Serostim at 3.5 up to 5ius a day. For general fat loss, dreams, awesome skin and general well being 3.5 is plenty if it's Pharma.Originally Posted by reporich
Once you have had Pharma and realize its strength I shrug when I hear of people taking 10+IUs of generic. Try that crap with Pharma and see how long you can do it haha
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I have close friends who tried both pharma and GOOD chinese. Experienced very similar side effects and results, the only difference was the price tag. Clearly people here have had bad experiences with chinese hgh which is fair enough as it is commonly faked. But trust me there is good suppliers out there. You'll know who these are because they have been around for years, have 1000's of people speaking positively about them online, and PLENTY of blood results to prove it. Are you really naive enough to believe these suppliers are paying several 100 if not 1000's forum members to lie and say its good stuff when it really isn't. I wont mention the supplier I get it from but hes one of the most popular online and I've been using it for well over a year. Took me a while to see solid gains but it eventually came and completely changed my physique.
Just my 2 cents.
Hmmm, I can see how it would be easy to simulate the water retention and therefore the resultant CTS symptoms but I have also been getting unmistakeable lethargy from the Riptropin - now obviously I am not suggesting that GH is the only thing that could cause that but by the time they have found a way to recreate ALL the sides from GH and present it lypholised just like the real thing could they not have just as easily made real GH?
Don't get me wrong - I have had my doubts about chinese GH for some time but we seem to damning the chinese very quickly here - are we now suggesting that NONE of the GH coming out of china is real?
Yes they could easily mimic all of the gh sides for a fraction of the cost of GH, just look at the Country and what they produce. People shouldnt be bloated after months of being on GH but many are, things changed over there after the Olympics thats for sure, i cant say 100% everything is fake but if its cheap it would be more than likely it is IMHO, what we need to do is get it tested..
Unfortunately, this will always be an issue, and the legitimacy of compounds will always be questioned. Best thing to do in this case is to stick with sources with a good reputation, but keep in mind that even trusted sources can also turn sour at any time. That's about all we can do to avoid being scammed.
-Gear
But that happened to me Gear, the main guy in China who as the biggest reputation going sent me an AI, it didnt even bloat which alot of recent ones do.
The thing is alot people will stick their head in the sand with this because they wont want to know they have spent $$$$$'s over the last few years on shite, I personally think they cant be trusted they even posion there own people with the slack food laws.
There is one way to find out and thats get it tested and a few of us here are on with that as we speak.
Nice to see you post Gear, ive seen you lurking for agesyou lurker xx
Yep I feel ya, and believe me I also don't trust anyone, but I have to get my gear from somebody right? And I would really prefer if that somebody had a good rep. Not saying that's a 100% safe, but it's the best I can do to protect myself from being scammed. But yeah, you're right on the trust issue, I don't trust anyone either unless I get it directly from my doc which I've never had luck with!
-Gear
Im sorry Gear but I have to agree with Marcus on this issue, we have reached the point where are unable to trust China and these so called good sources, sometimes its hard to believe and accept but from where I am sitting its staring me in the face as it has happend to myself and others who are in the same situation.
-XL
jing jai
I'm totally with ya, and I am not saying you will be a 100% safe with a source that has a good rep, that's why I said even trusted sources can turn sour. But what other better options are there? If you think getting your HGH from another source located in a different country is safer, I suggest you think again. I simply don't trust anyone, but of course I will prefer to deal with people who haven't received any complaints, and having said that I always still keep in mind that there's still a chance I might be getting ripped off, but I just don't see any other/safer alternatives.
-Gear
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