NCAA Athlete, drug test, took deca, need help! PLEASE!

[Nooomoto]

Do like Christian Bale's character in Harsh Times....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAijBzGi4eo

[AlphaMaleDawg]

get a whizzinator and then get a friend to piss in a cup for you right before

[Bonaparte]

http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/d...ch_C6_2001.pdf

Well, Carbo, you were correct about the human body producing nandrolone, so I apologize for my rude response. Apparently it occurs as a side reaction during aromatisation and is raised by intense exercise. Hell, this is how we learn. By putting our foot in our mouth once in a while.

However, I'm sure that several shots of nandrolone decanoate would still put him way over the minuscule threshold needed for a positive test result.

[Phosphor]

Hey King, did you ever get the winny you were thinking about in June? If you stuck with Test-E instead of the Deca, you might have been safe - but anyone can understand you wanting some extra gains. I hope everyone works out for you, It's just crapass bad luck. Maybe an empty bottle of andro could be your out, who knows.

[kingkong21]

Hey King, did you ever get the winny you were thinking about in June? If you stuck with Test-E instead of the Deca, you might have been safe - but anyone can understand you wanting some extra gains. I hope everyone works out for you, It's just crapass bad luck. Maybe an empty bottle of andro could be your out, who knows.

Hey Pho,

The catheter has arrived.

It's funny you ask that actually because there are 300 Winny tabs sitting in front of me about to be opened.

[dolla$ign]

The whizzinator wont work if it is an NCAA drug test. But if it is NCAA then not everyone on the team will be tested only a "random" few. I put random in quotations because there is speculation as to if it is completely random. If it is your school drug testing you, there might be a chance you could sneak in a clean urine sample and put it in the cup when no one is looking. If it is NCAA and you are selected you will have about half a day to provide a sample. The only way you could get a clean sample would be to use a catheter to inject someones clean urine into your bladder before the test. The NCAA official is in the bathroom with you and makes you drop your pants to your knees and pull your shirt up to your nipples and watches every last drop come out of your penis. Google using a catheter to pass a drug test. If you have to do it yourself there is videos on youtube that might help. It will still suck so so so so bad. Good luck.

[Noles12]

I actually have heard the catheter is not full proof. You are injecting urine into the bladder which is contaminated with the metabolites of the deca so it is still possible for them to show up in the "clean" urine

[bjohnson1968]

I'm still wondering if the Op specifically has been told he will be tested. to the best of my knowledge they do not test evryone only random individuals

[Noles12]

I'm still wondering if the Op specifically has been told he will be tested. to the best of my knowledge they do not test evryone only random individuals

This is true. The school is required to hand in an official roster with all players then they are "randomly" selected (which i think is BS, its usually a few randoms and a few big names). So anyone can be tested but its never the whole team

Now for the school, if they choose to, they can test the whole team whenever they feel like it. I have heard of some schools testing their teams weekly but others never test

[awms]

I have a friend who plays football and they "randomly" selected the back up QB, the kicker, and I think a back up corner or somthing....they arnt going to test their stars because they arnt stupid.

You dont get to be 260 at 9% bf naturally...I dont care what anyone say's thats just naive.

[Noles12]

I have a friend who plays football and they "randomly" selected the back up QB, the kicker, and I think a back up corner or somthing....they arnt going to test their stars because they arnt stupid.

You dont get to be 260 at 9% bf naturally...I dont care what anyone say's thats just naive.

I disagree with this. Playing D1, Ive met plenty of guys that are monsters. Thats why they are scholarship players at major universities. Im not saying every guy like that is natural but you would be surprised how big a guy with those genetics can get with trainers keeping them in the weightroom and dieticians watching everything they eat.

[bjohnson1968]

you would think If the coaching staff intended to test everyone Most players would have a heads up prior to. the coach isn't going to jeopardize his entire roster

peace

[kingkong21]

It's going to be random testing, but that honestly still scares the shit out of me.

I'm not trying to brag, but if they picked two or three starters from the team I'm probably going to be included.

We'll see.

Also, Noles, the catheter is not fool proof?

NCAA testing is pretty damn wicked.

[Bonaparte]

Also, Noles, the catheter is not fool proof?

No, you have to take something to minimize urine production (the opposite of a diuretic) so that you don't get much your own contaminated piss into the mix. I've heard of a compound that can do this, but I don't recall the name.

[Noles12]

It's going to be random testing, but that honestly still scares the shit out of me.

I'm not trying to brag, but if they picked two or three starters from the team I'm probably going to be included.

We'll see.

Also, Noles, the catheter is not fool proof?

NCAA testing is pretty damn wicked.

No as Bonaparte said some of your own urine can still mix. Its like mixing one liquid with another in a cup. You arent gonna be able to pour only one out without some of the other.

The metabolites are in the bladder and therefore there is still the risk of them contaminating the clean urine.

[Grid_King1]

The only way to technically beat the test would be to drink massive amounts of water before the test and I would suggest not eating anything prior to the test either. From the tests that I have been around are always taking at about 6 in the morning to get the first urine of the day which is the most potent of the day. If your urine comes out clear it is to then it is to literally watered down to test. The good thing is this won't get you a positive test, however, the down side is that they can test you again if you give a bad sample. Fortunately these tests are expensive and they won't necessarily come back for a second test.

[Noles12]

The only way to technically beat the test would be to drink massive amounts of water before the test and I would suggest not eating anything prior to the test either. From the tests that I have been around are always taking at about 6 in the morning to get the first urine of the day which is the most potent of the day. If your urine comes out clear it is to then it is to literally watered down to test. The good thing is this won't get you a positive test, however, the down side is that they can test you again if you give a bad sample. Fortunately these tests are expensive and they won't necessarily come back for a second test.

They will make you sit there and drink until you have to go again if the first sample is too diluted

[Grid_King1]

Its not the actual NCAA that comes in and tests you. I can only speak for testing where I am but the head trainer and his crew has done the gathering of the samples. I know for a fact he's not looking at it and saying wait you have to pee again. And if you've drank that much water its still going to be hella clear. But form what I have heard is if its too diluted on multiple tests of the same individual it is an automatic positive and your done for the next 12 months.

[yucon92]

go get tested on your own and see if you even have any thing to worry about just cause deca CAN last 18 months doesnt mean it will for everyone

[kingkong21]

Bump

[Twist]

If you want to make your piss yellow for a diluted test take some vitakic. that should help add color to the test. just an idea.

[xxxl83]

WHIZZINATOR!!!! is your best bet.

good luck,

xxxl83

[silverback11]

WHIZZINATOR!!!! is your best bet.

good luck,

xxxl83

read all the post before you post

[dolla$ign]

Along with catheterization one way that might possibly help is to do the following. I found this on another website, so I'm not sure if it is completely legit. Maybe some others can verify.
To try to not release dirty metabolites into the clean urine that has been provided via catherirization you should immediately stop working out. You do not want your body to release anymore metabolites into your blood. Eating big is also very important. This will put your body in an anabolic storage state that will keep the metabolites in your fat, and out of your blood.
Any other methods anyone know that might help...

[Sheven]

either consider someone other to piss for you or use one of the technics of huge amounts of water prior of test, lot of vitamin c and the list can go on. i know guys who beat the test but they were on stanozolol and prop not deca.

[Grid_King1]

And people with the whizzinator idea. it will NEVER work in the NCAA

[cybernox]

This is interesting. when is the test ?