Some people should be able to get more advice/rant

[bossman-69]

i am from England, Birmingham

[dec11]

i am from England, Birmingham

haha, he spells with a brummie accent ffs!

[bossman-69]

haha, he spells with a brummie accent ffs!

what a waste of a post. Ridiculous. how do i spell with a "brummie" accent LOL. quiet down.

[Vincealot]

That exlpains alot then Bossman-69

[songdog]

Will someone Ban this Troll plz.I know if my father had to tell me more than once.I felt it.Pain is the ultimate teacher!!!!!!

[Ernst]

Sorry OP. Any points you hoped to make have been destroyed by this twit.

Juicing is tempting, I know, but consider the possible consequences. Best of luck to you.

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

...wow...

[bossman-69]

lol my bad, AAS. haha.

[newbjuicer10]

Also Noles im not disagreeing with you that 24-25 years old should be the right age to start. I know myself from research that it is looked at as around the right age to start.

[smashingbox]

I effing love this shit, bossman isn't ready for high school English let alone AAS.

[BIG NICE]

OP has a decade of training under his belt and he is 22. Can you seriously count the physical activity you did in 6th grade as "training"? What were you doing? Jogging and doing knee push ups in peewee football? Idiots.

[djm6464]

OP has a decade of training under his belt and he is 22. Can you seriously count the physical activity you did in 6th grade as "training"? What were you doing? Jogging and doing knee push ups in peewee football? Idiots.

i noticed that too,and the 7yrs of aas exp, but this will be his first?

[newbjuicer10]

i noticed that too,and the 7yrs of aas exp, but this will be his first?

Don't have 7 years experience with them but have been researching on them since i was 15.

[newbjuicer10]

OP has a decade of training under his belt and he is 22. Can you seriously count the physical activity you did in 6th grade as "training"? What were you doing? Jogging and doing knee push ups in peewee football? Idiots.

No i statred using weights in the house when i was 12 and joined a proper gym at the age of 13 and that was when i got training seriously.

[MACHINE5150]

ahh... jesus.. does this happen every year right before spring break? all the kids come out and wanna do steroids so they can look good in havasu or cancun or where ever they go nowadays???

our advice is not to do steroids.. if you don't like it than do your own research.. all you need to know is out there in past threads.. if you aren't smart enough to figure it out then you are a muppet.

[Reed]

Well the thing is you really don't need any vets if you are capable of reading. All the answers are right here in front of your fact. Why so many people need their hand held on some basic shit is beyond me

[Reed]

I personally waited till I was 24. Did stuff the right way and upped my knowledge way before taking the plunge. Im a competitive bodybuilder now at 26 never used growth, igf1 (which is crap anyway) or any peptides. Im still in the beginner cycle section of things. We don't give advice because we want to emphasize hard work ethic over the I want it now attitude. It takes time to build a quality physique and Im talking years and years of it in the gym. The basics are the most important diet, training and always will be the whole entire journey. I worry more about my food intake then anything else and having an ever evolving diet year round for my needs depending on where Im at. Im still researching different ways to train, how to train better.

Patience is key. Its not a sprint its a marathon. We constantly have 150lb kids coming in and out that I just don't freaking get. Why do you wanna be on steroids and be weak as f*ck still. Was that all your natural potential was. Guess you gotta accept your genetic inferiority and that more than likely your goals will be out of reach especially those with the dreams of going pro as bodybuilders at 160lb. I love getting into the nitty gritty of grinding in the trenches naturally while in the offseason. Heavy powerlifting movements. Im one of those that doesn't take anything till 5-6 months out from the show and the other 6-7 Im clean.

Get your head right people and do YOUR OWN HOMEWORK

END RANT

[djm6464]

I personally waited till I was 24. Did stuff the right way and upped my knowledge way before taking the plunge. Im a competitive bodybuilder now at 26 never used growth, igf1 (which is crap anyway) or any peptides. Im still in the beginner cycle section of things. We don't give advice because we want to emphasize hard work ethic over the I want it now attitude. It takes time to build a quality physique and Im talking years and years of it in the gym. The basics are the most important diet, training and always will be the whole entire journey. I worry more about my food intake then anything else and having an ever evolving diet year round for my needs depending on where Im at. Im still researching different ways to train, how to train better.

Patience is key. Its not a sprint its a marathon. We constantly have 150lb kids coming in and out that I just don't freaking get. Why do you wanna be on steroids and be weak as f*ck still. Was that all your natural potential was. Guess you gotta accept your genetic inferiority and that more than likely your goals will be out of reach especially those with the dreams of going pro as bodybuilders at 160lb. I love getting into the nitty gritty of grinding in the trenches naturally while in the offseason. Heavy powerlifting movements. Im one of those that doesn't take anything till 5-6 months out from the show and the other 6-7 Im clean.

Get your head right people and do YOUR OWN HOMEWORK

END RANT

rant away man, nice post

[Grissa Ost Drauka]

There do seem to be a lot of assholes that do populate these boards. While it's true that nobody is compelled to give advice it's frustrating when you come onto a forum tailored for getting the exact advice you're looking for and people give you advice that you're not looking for. Whether or not someone is too young in your opinion to start juicing isn't what they were asking for you to comment on. You don't think they should be using, fine, move onto the next post. That doesn't mean you need to start arguments. I got the same bullshit with my very first post here. I was trying to figure out the best way to use a dbol only cycle with my sporadic schedule. I pitched an idea of how I was going to go about it and was told that my idea was crap and also that dbol only cycles are worthless. No help was offered at all.

[Reed]

There do seem to be a lot of assholes that do populate these boards. While it's true that nobody is compelled to give advice it's frustrating when you come onto a forum tailored for getting the exact advice you're looking for and people give you advice that you're not looking for. Whether or not someone is too young in your opinion to start juicing isn't what they were asking for you to comment on. You don't think they should be using, fine, move onto the next post. That doesn't mean you need to start arguments. I got the same bullshit with my very first post here. I was trying to figure out the best way to use a dbol only cycle with my sporadic schedule. I pitched an idea of how I was going to go about it and was told that my idea was crap and also that dbol only cycles are worthless. No help was offered at all.

I do agree that many take the wrong approach at telling the new guy that steroids are not the best option currently. People should not come off as assholes and offer reasons or links to pages for more reading to do. Many people do not understand what they are getting themselves into with implenting these type hormones into there body. Especially someone brand new to the gym.

Like I said earlier we are trying to emphasis work ethic and learning the basics first. It serves them well and me personally have had a lot of success in steering away the younger ones. I try to take a different approach and most are intelligent to see the flaws in their plan and to wait.

But you're right in the end it is their own choice however I will take no part in offering them advice.

[RaZr]

There do seem to be a lot of assholes that do populate these boards. While it's true that nobody is compelled to give advice it's frustrating when you come onto a forum tailored for getting the exact advice you're looking for and people give you advice that you're not looking for. Whether or not someone is too young in your opinion to start juicing isn't what they were asking for you to comment on. You don't think they should be using, fine, move onto the next post. That doesn't mean you need to start arguments. I got the same bullshit with my very first post here. I was trying to figure out the best way to use a dbol only cycle with my sporadic schedule. I pitched an idea of how I was going to go about it and was told that my idea was crap and also that dbol only cycles are worthless. No help was offered at all.

Sounds like sound advice to me...

[Noles12]

There do seem to be a lot of assholes that do populate these boards. While it's true that nobody is compelled to give advice it's frustrating when you come onto a forum tailored for getting the exact advice you're looking for and people give you advice that you're not looking for. Whether or not someone is too young in your opinion to start juicing isn't what they were asking for you to comment on. You don't think they should be using, fine, move onto the next post. That doesn't mean you need to start arguments. I got the same bullshit with my very first post here. I was trying to figure out the best way to use a dbol only cycle with my sporadic schedule. I pitched an idea of how I was going to go about it and was told that my idea was crap and also that dbol only cycles are worthless. No help was offered at all.

See that is where i think you have a misunderstanding. There is no way to help you sort out a dbol only cycle because it has no right to it. It is dangerous and reckless. I dont know how to advise someone when they ask that because personally i do not agree with dbol only due to the risks. The same is true when it comes to age. At as young of an age as some of these guys ask, it is only risking harm to their developing body. I do not agree with advising someone on how to harm themselves. Therefore i give them the necessary advise to wait to cycle and propose the risks involved if they make the decision to go against that.

That is offering help in both cases. The problem is people feel like they werent helped because it isnt what they wanted to hear. Would you consider it help if i told you to run dbol at a certain dose everyday in order to shutdown your natural testosterone production, kill your sex drive, cause estrogenic sides, and lose all of your gains? I just dont understand what you guys would consider help in a situation such as that

[dec11]

There do seem to be a lot of assholes that do populate these boards. While it's true that nobody is compelled to give advice it's frustrating when you come onto a forum tailored for getting the exact advice you're looking for and people give you advice that you're not looking for. Whether or not someone is too young in your opinion to start juicing isn't what they were asking for you to comment on. You don't think they should be using, fine, move onto the next post. That doesn't mean you need to start arguments. I got the same bullshit with my very first post here. I was trying to figure out the best way to use a dbol only cycle with my sporadic schedule. I pitched an idea of how I was going to go about it and was told that my idea was crap and also that dbol only cycles are worthless. No help was offered at all.

yep and you are brand new here (maybe) so stick around and see the amount of repeat crap and spoilt kids there are on here annoying most of us. you just cant form an opinion whilst being here 2 minutes mate unless you also are a kid looking to jump on.
those who act like twats deserve nothing more than to be treated as such, there are actually a few who listen and take our advice now and then and become worthy respected members on here. so alot of these newbies shouldnt bother pulling the ageism card

the ideal approach would be a seperate forum and let them fight it out amoungst themselves and let the rest of us get on with helping each other and sharing exps

[newbjuicer10]

I personally waited till I was 24. Did stuff the right way and upped my knowledge way before taking the plunge. Im a competitive bodybuilder now at 26 never used growth, igf1 (which is crap anyway) or any peptides. Im still in the beginner cycle section of things. We don't give advice because we want to emphasize hard work ethic over the I want it now attitude. It takes time to build a quality physique and Im talking years and years of it in the gym. The basics are the most important diet, training and always will be the whole entire journey. I worry more about my food intake then anything else and having an ever evolving diet year round for my needs depending on where Im at. Im still researching different ways to train, how to train better.

Patience is key. Its not a sprint its a marathon. We constantly have 150lb kids coming in and out that I just don't freaking get. Why do you wanna be on steroids and be weak as f*ck still. Was that all your natural potential was. Guess you gotta accept your genetic inferiority and that more than likely your goals will be out of reach especially those with the dreams of going pro as bodybuilders at 160lb. I love getting into the nitty gritty of grinding in the trenches naturally while in the offseason. Heavy powerlifting movements. Im one of those that doesn't take anything till 5-6 months out from the show and the other 6-7 Im clean.

Get your head right people and do YOUR OWN HOMEWORK

END RANT

You need to read over my first post carefully again.

[djm6464]

^^^^, how is age even the defining factor, imo,its maximizing your potential, then use aas as a TOOL, as opposed to something to speed things up....how the hell can you understand your body and how it reacts to different training techniques as well as nutrition, at fkn 21.....without any foundation, you can run any cycle you want, and will piss more than half the gains away within 6wks of the last pin

[Shol'va]

It makes the temptation so great when guys like zyzz and his worshippers, all started at under 21 on juice and posting their progress on the net. And seeing all the young kids whoring after that crowd cause they are popular at the moment and getting all the chicks at the clubs, etc because of those gains. It just makes all the kids want to jump on the bandwagon without regards to any detriment to their long term health. Everyone at that age wants the quick way out without any sacifices. I want it all and I want it now. Just my take on this.

[yungone501]

Holy sh!t reed, whats up man!?

Do u remember me from like 2 years ago?

How you been bro?

[dooie]

U have been at the gym since u were 13????? Let's see photos mate!! And u have been researching aas for 7 years but in ur first post u were asking about side effects of test??? All u needed to do was to go into steroid profiles and read for 10 mins there.. Ur 7 years of researching is = to my lunch break researching. stop ****ing lying buddy. ur really 12 ( I'm a teacher and u spell like ur a 12 yo) who's parents are rich and instant gratification is all you've ever known!!

People should get more advice/rant????? Hahaha
this has turned into people that are dumb as ****/rant

[yungone501]

^^^
You know sh!t about tmos man! Youre speaking what you assume and to me thats the stupidest thing somebody can do. Dont talk about things you know nothing of.

[dec11]

^^^
You know sh!t about tmos man! Youre speaking what you assume and to me thats the stupidest thing somebody can do. Dont talk about things you know nothing of.

the little waste of space is a kid who advises other kids and always comes on these type threads to defend young use, hopefully his inappropriate rant will get him banned this time.