MACHINE5150's cutting log 245lb -> 225lbs in 60 days (hopefully)

[MACHINE5150]

Saturday, March 5th

MORNING WEIGH IN: 236lbs

160mcg Clenbuteral taken first thing in AM

Wake at 12:30

1:00 Pre-Work Out Shake
1 cup (100g) ground oats: 151 cal 12p 60c 9f
1 cup (243g) egg whites: 117 cal 26p 2c 0f
2 cup (500ml) skim milk: 205 cal 29p 28c 1f
1 cup (148g) frozen blueberries: 84 cal 1p 21c 0f
2 scoop Vanilla syntha6 or whey: 400 cal 46p 26c 12f
3 tablespoons of Splenda

Total: 957cal 114p 137c 22f

2:00-5:00 Rugby Game & Warm ups..

5:30 Meal 2
Large Chicken Breast (200g) 260cal 54p 0c 2f
1 cup (193g) Brown Rice 216cal 5p 45c 2f
1 cup (156g) Brussel Sprouts 56cal 4p 12c 0f

Total: 532cal 63p 57c 4f

8:30 Meal 3
Large Chicken Breast (200g) 260cal 54p 0c 2f
1 cup (160g) peas 67cal 5p 11c 0f

Total: 327cal 59p 11c 2f

9:00-3:00am
9 whiskeys & Diet Coke 945cal 0p 0c 0f

3:00am
Steak (200g) 400cal 40p 0c 26f

TOTAL:
3161 calories (419 cal deficit)
276 Protein
195 Carbs
54 Fat

Notes: Could not fall asleep last night until about 5:30am.. surely side effects of the clen. I intend on ordering GBL (precursor to GHB, GBL is still legal here) and begin using that as a sleeping aid. It's benefits go further than just sleep as it spikes growth hormone levels by 400% as well and can aid in fat loss. In regards to the lack of morning cardio, I choose not to tire myself with it when i have a game that day, surely 80 minutes of rugby is more than enough cardio for one day anyways.

BED TIME WEIGH IN 239.2lbs

[MACHINE5150]

Sunday, March 6th

Morning Weigh in: 234.8lbs

180mcg Clenbuteral

1:00 Wake

1:10-1:45 Fasted Cardio

2:15 Meal 1
Ramen Noodles 383cal 8p 49c 17f
2 scoop Syntha6 400 cal 46p 26c 12f

Total 783cal 54p 75c 29f

5:00 Meal 2
Linguine with Shrimp & Minestrone Soup
200g pasta 314cal 12p 62c 2f
200g Shrimp 198cal 42p 0c 2f
1tbsp olive oil 108cal 0p 0c 14f
1tbsp butter 100cal 0p 0c 11f
1 cup Minestrone Soup 130cal 5p 20c 5f

Total: 850cal 59p 82c 34f

8:00 Meal 3
Goodfella's Sweet Chilli Chicken Pizza

Total: 1040cal 45p 132c 38f

12:00 Meal 6
225g Ahi Tuna, raw 260cal 56p 0c 2f

Total: 260cal 56p 0c 2f

3:00am Bedtime
Casein Shake 240cal 48p 6c 2f


TOTAL: 3177cal (403 cal deficit)
262 protein
295 carbs
105 fat

NOTES: I bought the frozen pizza before i decided to cut. I ate the pizza because it was taking up too much room in my freezer, and the fridges here in europe are tiny.. i wish i had an American fridge.. or a big freezer.

Night time weigh in: 240.2lbs

[MACHINE5150]

Monday, March 7th (One Week)

MORNING WEIGH IN: 236.2lbs

180mcg Clenbuteral taken first thing in AM

Wake at 12:00

12:20-1:00 Fasted Cardio: 40 min total on stationary bike

1:00 Pre-Work Out Shake
1 cup (100g) ground oats: 151 cal 12p 60c 9f
1 cup (243g) egg whites: 117 cal 26p 2c 0f
2 cup (500ml)water
1 cup (148g) frozen blueberries: 84 cal 1p 21c 0f
2 scoop Vanilla syntha6 or whey: 400 cal 46p 26c 12f
3 tablespoons of Splenda

Total: 752cal 85p 109c 21f

drink half now half after

2:00-3:30 Work Out Back & Biceps

4:00 other half of shake


6:00 Meal 3
two steak fajitas
2 8" tortillas 280cal 7p 48c 6f
150g lean steak 348cal 48p 0c 16f
1/4 large onion 15cal 0p 4c 0f
1/2 bell pepper 20cal 0p 4c 0f
1/2 tbsp rapeseed oil 56cal 0p 0c 7f

Total: 719cal 54p 56c 29f

9:00 Meal 4
225g lean steak 522cal 72p 0c 24f
1/4 large onion 15cal 0p 4c 0f
1/2 Zucchini (courgette) 17cal 1p 3c 0f
1 tbsp olive oil 114cal 0p 0c 12f

Total: 668cal 77p 7c 36f

Snack:
2 oz (56g) peanuts 336cal 16p 8c 30f

Total: 336cal 16p 8c 30f

12:00 Meal 6
2 cup cherry tomatoes 54cal 2p 12c 0f
1/2 cucumber 25cal 1p 5c 0f

Total: 76cal 3p 17c 2f

3:00am Bedtime
Casein Shake 240cal 48p 6c 2f

TOTAL:
2814 calories (766 calories deficit)
286g Protein
203g Carbs
120g Fat

Work Out:
Cardio:
40min Fasted Cardio Stationary Bike
25min PWO on Treadmill

Back & Biceps
Pull-ups 4x7,7,7(5),7(5) (last two sets.. last two reps were assisted, i suck at pullups.. used to be able to do 20 when i was 17 & 185lbs.. WTF?)
Row Machine: 3x10x110kgs
One Arm Rows: 3x10x50kgs
Preacher Curls: 2x9,6x38kgs + 2x6x28kgs, burn outs last set
Hammer Curls: 2x10,8x16kgs + 2x10,8x12kgs

25 PWO Cardio on Treadmill

Night time weigh in: 238.2lbs


**************************************END OF FIRST WEEK*******************************************
TOTALS:
4127 CALORIE DEFICIT
205 MIN FASTED CARDIO
65 MIN PWO CARDIO
300MIN RUGBY

LOST 3LBS??? (QUESTIONABLE)

[Gucks]

^^^^No worries guys.. if i was only able to eat chicken breasts i think i would and up taking a machine gun to the ST. Patricks Day parade by the time it came around.. i need variety.. Ahi Tuna is my favorite.. eaten raw with a bit of soy and wasabi is GREAT.. expensive.. but with all the money i am saving by not drinking i will still have more money by the end of the week.. and steak is not out of the question you just need to take a smaller amount of it and count those calories.. as long as your ratios are right and you are a few hundred cals under your TDEE, and do a bit of cardio you will lose weight. You could lose weight eating McDonalds everyday (ever seen movie called Fat Head?) it is not recommended, but you could do it.

Just an FYI.. I am going to start a bunch of posts below with the next 3 days, and then do the same for 7 days every week.. that way all the posts/logs concerning my diet and training will be together, and we can discuss below.. it will make it easier to follow IMO.

-Cheers

my bday and agree, nice idea about keeping ur weekly logs together!

[MACHINE5150]

my bday and agree, nice idea about keeping ur weekly logs together!

mine is the following thursday.. on the 23rd

[zaggahamma]

pics!?

[MACHINE5150]

pics!?

pics of what?? the food i'm eating?? there are pics on post 2 and 3 of me from just 4-5 days ago

[zaggahamma]

pics of what?? the food i'm eating?? there are pics on post 2 and 3 of me from just 4-5 days ago

lol no...EXCUUUUUSE ME...lemme go check....ur not hungry r u...lol i didnt see those....keep on keepin on bro

[zaggahamma]

lol no...EXCUUUUUSE ME...lemme go check....ur not hungry r u...lol i didnt see those....keep on keepin on bro

sorry bro....i did see those...too soon 2 ask for more...my bad....i hope u do as well as warriors cut thread....at least i'm keepin u typin and upset..u wont be cravin the steaks!

[MACHINE5150]

okay.. regarding the alcohol.. i know it is not a good thing to have in your diet, but by switching to diet coke and whiskey, and limiting it to 9 or 10 once a week, i am consuming 3400 calories less than the 20 pints of Carlsberg i usually drink two times a week... so that is 8800calories total less every week alone.. mind you i have been doing that binge drinking for about two years and never gained any weight.. also.. i was always on a 4k calorie diet and never gained any weight.. i have been 242-245lbs for the past two years or so..

here as an article regarding boozing on a diet:
http://www.formerfatguy.com/weight-l...#axzz1FkdBZvDG

[Damienm05]

Look, you know what you're doing at this point. You know that alcohol has an undesirable effect of estrogen levels and that it's empty calories. That said, you're implementing a severe cutback and any change is better than no change. Would it be better if you didn't drink at all? Of course. Is it a huge stride in the right direction to do whiskey/diet several times a week only? Absolutely.

[Gucks]

if u want something instead of whiskey and coke, 1 of my fav drinks is soco (southern comfort) and coke :P i down them like a fish...bit of a birds drink though.

[MACHINE5150]

^^Soco is good.. has too much of a cinnamon flavor to it though

[Sgt. Hartman]

I'm supporting you bro, but I have a question. Do you really wake up at 12:30pm and go to bed at 3:00am + or are you converting the time difference for us across the pond?

[Daboss]

Looking good Machine keep it up! I am trying to keep pace with my weight loss, only difference is I can not weigh myself everyday because I would shoot something.....anything, doesnt matter. I decided to do the One weigh in every week or possibly 2 weeks. You are doing a great job keeping with the plan and thanks again for the advice on the liquor I put it to use last night!

[MACHINE5150]

I'm supporting you bro, but I have a question. Do you really wake up at 12:30pm and go to bed at 3:00am + or are you converting the time difference for us across the pond?

I manage a company based back in California.. focused on investing money in European companies.. So i need to be awake when my investors back State side need to be able to get a hold of me. Banks don't even open until 10am over here anyways..

[Gucks]

u lost 9 ibs first week? nice job machine! u must be pretty damn happy with tht? how often u gonna upd8 pics? every 2 weeks?

[MACHINE5150]

no.. didn't lose 9lbs in a week bud.. my weight just fluctuates a lot.. probably lost 2-3lbs.. not sure really.. i will post pics at the end.

[MACHINE5150]

Tuesday, March 8th

MORNING WEIGH IN: 236.2lbs

200mcg Clenbuteral taken first thing in AM

Wake at 12:00

12:20-1:00 Fasted Cardio: 40 min total on stationary bike

1:30 Pre-Work Out Shake
1 cup (100g) ground oats: 151 cal 12p 60c 9f
1 cup (243g) egg whites: 117 cal 26p 2c 0f
2 cup (500ml)water
1 cup (148g) frozen blueberries: 84 cal 1p 21c 0f
2 scoop Vanilla syntha6 or whey: 400 cal 46p 26c 12f
3 tablespoons of Splenda

Total: 752cal 85p 109c 21f

drink half now half after

2:30-3:30 Work Out Chest, Shoulders, Triceps

4:00 other half of shake

6:00 Meal 3
Large Chicken Breast (200g) 260cal 54p 0c 2f
1 cup (193g) Brown Rice 216cal 5p 45c 2f
1 cup (156g) peas 56cal 4p 12c 0f

Total: 532cal 63p 57c 4f

7:30-9:00 Rugby Practice

10:00 Meal 4
Turkey Breast (200g) 260cal 54p 0c 2f
1 cup (193g) Brown Rice 216cal 5p 45c 2f
1 cup (156g) Brussel Sprouts 56cal 4p 12c 0f
2 TBSP mayonnaise 96cal 0p 2c 10f

Total: 628cal 63p 59c 14f

11:00 Snack
100g Beef Jerky 320cal 68p 0c 4f

Total: 320cal 68p 0c 4f

12:00 Meal 5
225g Ahi Tuna, raw 260cal 56p 0c 2f

Total: 260cal 56p 0c 2f

Snack:
1 oz (28g) peanuts 168cal 8p 4c 15f

3:00am Bedtime
Casein Shake 240cal 48p 6c 2f

TOTAL:
2900 Calories (680 deficit)
391g Protein
235g Carbs
62g Fat

STILL UPDATING

WORK OUT:
Cardio:
40 min Fasted Cardio on bike
90 min Rugby practice

Chest, Shoulders, & Triceps
Bench Press: 1x6x310, 2x5x325, 1x6x345lbs (new personal best)
DB Shoulder Press: 3x8x40kgs
DB Bench Press: 3x12x40kgs
Side/Front Raises: 3x10x14kgs
Tricep Push Downs: 4x10x40kgs

Bedtime Weigh in: 240.0lbs

[MACHINE5150]

Wednesday, March 9th

Morning Weigh in: 235.2lbs

200mcg Clenbuteral

Wake at 12:00

12:15-1:00 Fasted Cardio: 45 min total on stationary bike

1:30 Pre-Work Out Shake
1 cup (100g) ground oats: 151 cal 12p 60c 9f
1 cup (243g) egg whites: 117 cal 26p 2c 0f
2 cup (500ml)water
1 cup (148g) frozen blueberries: 84 cal 1p 21c 0f
2 scoop Vanilla syntha6 or whey: 400 cal 46p 26c 12f
3 tablespoons of Splenda

Total: 752cal 85p 109c 21f

drink half now half after

SKIPPED LEGS DUE TOT GAME BEING MOVED FROM SATURDAY TO TOMORROW.. DON'T WANT SORE LEGS FOR THE GAME

4:00 other half of shake

5:00 Snack
100g Tortilla Chips 480cal 6p 59c 24f
4tbsp Salsa 20 cal 0p 6c 0f

Total: 500cal 6p 65c 24f

6:00 Meal 3
1 cup Minestrone Soup 130cal 5p 20c 5f
250g Lemon Sole 300cal 57p 0c 6f
136g potatoes 118cal 0p 28c 0f

Total: 548cal 62p 48c 11f

10:00 Meal 4
Chicken Stir Fry
Large Chicken Breast (200g) 260cal 54p 0c 2f
Stir Fry Veggies (400g) 148cal 8p 28c 0f
Sweet Chilli Sauce (140g) 98cal 0p 24c 0f
1 Tbsp Rapeseed Oil (14g) 124cal 0p 0c 14f

Total: 630cal 62p 52c 16f

12:30am Meal 5
200g Peeled Shrimp 198cal 42p 0c 2f
4 tbsp Cocktail Sauce 32cal 0p 8c 0f

Total: 230cal 42p 8c 2f

3:00am Bedtime
Casein Shake 240cal 48p 6c 2f

Total:
2900 Calories (680cal deficit)
303g Protein
279g Carbs
76g Fat

Bedtime Weigh in: 236.2lbs

[MACHINE5150]

Thursday, March 10th

Morning Weigh In: 234.2

200mcg Clenbuteral

Wake at 12:00

12:15-1:00 Fasted Cardio: 45 min total on stationary bike

1:30 Pre-Work Out Shake
1 cup (100g) ground oats: 151 cal 12p 60c 9f
1 cup (243g) egg whites: 117 cal 26p 2c 0f
2 cup (500ml)water
1 cup (148g) frozen blueberries: 84 cal 1p 21c 0f
2 scoop Vanilla syntha6 or whey: 400 cal 46p 26c 12f
3 tablespoons of Splenda

Total: 752cal 85p 109c 21f

drink half now half after

2:30-3:30 Back & Biceps

4:00 other half of shake

6:30 & 10:00
KFC
1 Breast, 2 legs, 2 thighs

Total: 1100Cal 90p 31c 69f

7:00-9:30 Rugby warm up and game

11:00 snack
2 cup cherry tomatoes 54cal 2p 12c 0f
1 cucumber 50cal 2p 10c 0f
4 tbsp Balsamic Vinegar 56cal 0p 12c 0f
2 cloves garlic
basil

Total: 160cal 3p 34c 0f

12:30am Meal 5
200g Peeled Shrimp 198cal 42p 0c 2f
4 tbsp Cocktail Sauce 32cal 0p 8c 0f

Total: 230cal 42p 8c 2f

1:30 Snack
2 oz (56g) peanuts 336cal 16p 8c 30f

Total: 336cal 16p 8c 30f

3:00am Bedtime
Casein Shake 240cal 48p 6c 2f

TOTAL:
2818 Calories (762 calorie deficit)
261g Protein
196g Carbs
124g Fat


Work Out:
Cardio:
45 min fasted cardio
2.5 hours rugby

Back & Biceps:
Pull downs 1x10x110kg, 3x8x115kg
Behind the neck pull down and hold for 3 sec, 3x10x50kg
Row machine 3x10x115kg
Bent over rear delt DB raises 4x10x14kgs
Preacher Curls 2x8x38kg, 2x8x28kg
Alternating DB Curls 3x8x14kgs

night time weigh in: 235.2lbs

[MACHINE5150]

Friday, March 11th

Morning weigh in: 232.2lbs

200mcg Clenbuteral

Wake at 2:00

2:15-3:00 Fasted Cardio

3:30 Pre-Work Out Shake
1 cup (100g) ground oats: 151 cal 12p 60c 9f
1 cup (243g) egg whites: 117 cal 26p 2c 0f
2 cup (500ml)water
1 cup (148g) frozen blueberries: 84 cal 1p 21c 0f
2 scoop Vanilla syntha6 or whey: 400 cal 46p 26c 12f
3 tablespoons of Splenda

Total: 752cal 85p 109c 21f

4:00-5:00 Work out - Chest & Shoulders

5:30 rest of shake

7:00 Meal 3
Large Chicken Breast (200g) 260cal 54p 0c 2f
1 cup (193g) Brown Rice 216cal 5p 45c 2f
1 cup (156g) peas 56cal 4p 12c 0f

Total: 532cal 63p 57c 4f

7:30-2:30
12 Whiskey & Diet Coke
1200cals 0p 0c 0f

3:00
2 cup won ton soup 356cals 42p 42c 6f
2 cup sweet & sour soup 156cal 6p 27c 2f

Total: 512 cal 48p 69c 8f

TOTAL:
2994 Calories
196g Protein
235g Carbs
33g Fat


Work Out:
Cardio
45 min fasted cardio

Chest & Shoulders
Bench Press: 2x3x365lbs, 2x2x390lbs, 1xNEGx435lbs YEAH BITCHES!!!
Shrugs 3x10x215lbs
DB Bench Press 3x12x40kgs
Side/Front DB Raises 4x8x16kgs

NOTES: Had to cut work out early with no cardio as i had an appointment i needed to make.

[MACHINE5150]

Saturday, March 12th

1:00
Pork Belly Noodles
385 calories 7p 2c 40f

5:00pm
Beef & Egg Noodles
501cal 27p 48c 21f

7:00-3:00
12 Whiskeys & Diet Coke
1200cal 0p 0c 0f

4:00am
Sweet & Sour Pork
513cal 17p 57c 30f

TOTAL:
2599 Calories
51g Protein
107g Carbs
91g Fats

[MACHINE5150]

Sunday, March 13th
?????

I went out of town with my friends visiting from NY from friday night till Monday morning.. so obviously my diet was not on par and there was no training.. but i staid away from beer, drinking only whiskey and diet coke and didn't eat much.. so i stayed in a calorie deficit, but obviously not the way i SHOULD be doing it.. other than ST. Patty's day i will be on schedule as i was the two weeks before this week end.

[MACHINE5150]

Monday, March 14th

^^^READ ABOVE

[Gucks]

no.. didn't lose 9lbs in a week bud.. my weight just fluctuates a lot.. probably lost 2-3lbs.. not sure really.. i will post pics at the end.

from 245 to 236 morning weigh in..? thats 9ibs? am i missing something..? :S

[MACHINE5150]

from 245 to 236 morning weigh in..? thats 9ibs? am i missing something..? :S

the thing is i might have lost 3-5lbs.. but i can lose the other 3-5lbs by taking a shit and not drinking enough water.. so we will just have to see how it goes from week to week.

So far, I am VERY happy with my results.. i am not losing any strength and i have lost 7-10 lbs in just 10 days... i am sure the clen has lot to do with that.. and the fact that i cut out all dairy since i used to drink 2 liters a day.. it is a big difference.. if i keep up at this pace i will shoot for 220lbs..

I can kind of notice the difference, but i still have a long way to go.. i will not stop until i can see my abs.. or May 1st.. either way.. but in all honesty my next cycle of tren and test will melt a ton of fat too.. so.. i am real excited to see where i will be by the end of June.. if everything goes to plan i will be in the best shape of my life.. and i will also be stronger than i have ever been.. not bad considering i only got back into lifting towards the end of 2009 after a 6 years break.

[little p]

well mate hope the training is going good! what type of oats you eating?
only thing i can eat is the quick porridge with skim milk with some honey foir sweetner!!

[Twist]

Great Progress so far man. I'm following along. I think you will want to go lower than 220 if you want defined abs. Might have some abs at 220 but not lean abs. Either way your doing well.

[RaginCajun]

your well on your way machine. just keep at it.

[MACHINE5150]

Tuesday, March 15th

off the clen for next two weeks.. then back on again.

Morning Weigh in: 232.0lbs
12:15-1:00 Fasted Cardio

2:00 Pre-Work Out Shake
1 cup (100g) ground oats: 151 cal 12p 60c 9f
1 cup (243g) egg whites: 117 cal 26p 2c 0f
2 cup (500ml)water
1 cup (148g) frozen blueberries: 84 cal 1p 21c 0f
2 scoop Vanilla syntha6 or whey: 400 cal 46p 26c 12f
3 tablespoons of Splenda

Total: 752cal 85p 109c 21f

3:00-4:00 Work out - Chest & Shoulders

4:30
Beef & Egg Noodles
501cal 27p 48c 21f

6:30 Rest of Shake

9:00 Dinner Out
4oz Pork Belly 585cal 11p oc 60f
185g Potato Au Gratin 322cal 12p 28c 18f
150g Braised Cabbage 178cal 3p 13c 12f
2oz (56g)Goat Cheese Tart 200cal 12p 2c 16f

Total 1285cal 38p 43c 106f

3:00am Bedtime
Casein Shake 240cal 48p 6c 2f

TOTAL:
2778 Calories (762 calorie deficit)
198g Protein
207g Carbs
150g Fat

Work Out:
Cardio:
45 min fasted cardio
Chest, shoulders, and triceps
Bench Press: 2x5x340lbs, 2x3x370lbs, 1x4x370lbs
DB Shoulder Press: 3x8x40kg
DB Bench Press: 3x12x40kg
DB Side/Front Lateral Raises: 3x8x16kgs
Dips 15,12,13,12


NOTES: Had an appointment after gym couldn't do PWO cardio, had a date and hadn't gone to this restaurant in a year.. best dish i have ever had in my life.. i know my choice of food is sub par with all that fat.. but with the lack of drink and skipping another meal i am still at a deficit.. although i did not get enough protein.

[MACHINE5150]

Wednesday, March 16th

45min cardio, diet was not clean, but it was probably under my TDEE.. through out the day i had some chinese food and a kebab

[MACHINE5150]

Thursday, March 17th (St. Patrick's Day)

I ate a couple burgers and drank a bunch of whiskey.. at the end of the day i had a chicken kebab, but only ate the interior of it

[MACHINE5150]

Friday, March 18th

hung out all day, not sure what i ate but it wasn't much all day

[MACHINE5150]

Saturday, March 19th

40 minutes of rugby.. fasted.. then ate a baked potatoe and steak.. then mashed potatoes and a lamb shank and then a few whiskey diets and finally some chicken

[MACHINE5150]

Sunday, March 20th

^^^^The above few days were pretty much a complete write off. My friends were visiting from NY plus with St Patty's week end and 6 nations i did not do any cardio.. i kept away from bad foods and all but i did have a few drinks.. i kept myself under my TDEE, but i definitley did not make any progress. I weighed in at 234lbs this am... so i am still a bit lighter than where i started.. but might have gained a pound or two over the 4-5 day weekend. Now that all the shenanigans is over i will be focusing on this again.

[MACHINE5150]

Monday, March 21st

Did 45 fasted cardio in the morning then i had some sushi and ate 440g of steak and two cups of broccoli broken up over 2 meals.. also ate some nuts for healthy fats.. but did not get any carbs all day really. not enough food but i was busy most the day.

[MACHINE5150]

well mate hope the training is going good! what type of oats you eating?
only thing i can eat is the quick porridge with skim milk with some honey for sweetner!!

I get preground ones from Tesco.. cheap as hell and just throw them into my morning shake.. easiest way IMO.. try the shake.. it is great

Great Progress so far man. I'm following along. I think you will want to go lower than 220 if you want defined abs. Might have some abs at 220 but not lean abs. Either way your doing well.

I am going to do a test p tren a 8 week blast cycle starting in may.. so hoping that i am around 220-225 by then and the tren will take care of the rest.. It is amazing to me how quick this has come off.. i know it starts out faast and slows down.. but i think the lack of dairy compared to what i used to drink/eat makes a HUGE difference... as i used to have 500ml (16oz) skim milk with every meal.. that would put me around 2liters a day.

your well on your way machine. just keep at it.

Thanks for the support bud..

[zaggahamma]

I get preground ones from Tesco.. cheap as hell and just throw them into my morning shake.. easiest way IMO.. try the shake.. it is great



I am going to do a test p tren a 8 week blast cycle starting in may.. so hoping that i am around 220-225 by then and the tren will take care of the rest.. It is amazing to me how quick this has come off.. i know it starts out faast and slows down.. but i think the lack of dairy compared to what i used to drink/eat makes a HUGE difference... as i used to have 500ml (16oz) skim milk with every meal.. that would put me around 2liters a day.



Thanks for the support bud..

machine...havent you also cut back on da booze?

[Twist]

I agree, I feel that milk adds a lot of water to the body. And when you are holding that much extra of anything (other than muscle) it looks great when it comes off.