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    Weight gain very low test e 4 weeks in

    Hi im 4 weeks in test enanthate 500mg. Ive been eating around 3000 calories, cardio 3 times a week. Ive gained Only about 3 kilo. Could i be doing somthing wrong? Any help apreciated. Thanks

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    What are your stats?
    What is your daily diet?
    What's your training protocol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    What are your stats?
    What is your daily diet?
    What's your training protocol?
    he's 21 and has a blood pressure reading of '15', whatever that is lol

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    I train 4-5 times week . Alot of compound exerscises.
    Monday - chest / tris
    Tuesday - back / bis
    Wednesday - legs , shoulders , abs
    Thursday cardio
    Friday - repeat monday.

    I eat around 4 eggs in morning, cup of milk.
    10 am protein shake
    12 - depends - meat, chicken, any high protein food.
    5 pm - gym
    7 pm dinner - again protein food with carbs.

    80 kilos 5'8

    Thanks for help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukeaziz View Post
    I train 4-5 times week . Alot of compound exerscises.
    Monday - chest / tris
    Tuesday - back / bis
    Wednesday - legs , shoulders , abs
    Thursday cardio
    Friday - repeat monday.

    I eat around 4 eggs in morning, cup of milk.
    10 am protein shake
    12 - depends - meat, chicken, any high protein food.
    5 pm - gym
    7 pm dinner - again protein food with carbs.

    80 kilos 5'8

    Thanks for help
    that diet is appalling, you need to eat properly, AAS will do nothing for you and potentially ruin your sexual function and give you bad depression associated with low test production

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukeaziz View Post
    I train 4-5 times week . Alot of compound exerscises.
    Monday - chest / tris
    Tuesday - back / bis
    Wednesday - legs , shoulders , abs
    Thursday cardio
    Friday - repeat monday.

    I eat around 4 eggs in morning, cup of milk.
    10 am protein shake
    12 - depends - meat, chicken, any high protein food.
    5 pm - gym
    7 pm dinner - again protein food with carbs.

    80 kilos 5'8

    Thanks for help
    wow, i dont even know what to say, its people like you that give anabolics a bad name.

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    Ok what do you recomend mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukeaziz View Post
    Ok what do you recomend mate
    get in the diet section and you will soon learn. get some creatine, hmb and zma for supps

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    Stop taking steroids because they will do nothing for you. Your shutting your natural testosterone for zero benefit. Your next problem will be your limp Dick. Stop taking steriods and learn how to eat for the next few yrs.

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    So would i take creatine while on cycle??? Or use it during pct??

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    Come off cycle its pointless, learn how to eat to build muscle mass.

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    Gained 1 inch on arms must be working

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    That 1 inch is only water weight and excess gylcogen, which will shrink back down to less than it was when you come off.

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    See you in a few weeks when you can't get hard and you have lost all your weight and your inch on your arms. If you won't listen I'll leave your thread.

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    So i should just stop now? What about pct do i still take

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    Yes still do a full pct

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    See, what Marcus is saying is whatever happens while your on cycle, it will evaporate immediately when you stop the steroids because you never learned how to eat first. That diet cannot support ANY new tissue growth, so all your left with is all the potential drawbacks and none of the benefits. It's like being shot dead in an ill-conceived bank robbery. It doesn't matter how much money you have in the bag, it's over before you started. The idea is to get some sort of lasting benefit. That's the pay off for the risk. Your deal right now is all risk and ZERO benefit.

    Here's the good news though. Since you don't know how to eat, once you figure that out you'll grow like a weed!!! All the benefit with none of the risk!!! How's that for the up side? Then, after you've made huge progress, about a year or 2 from now you might consider trying the AAS and then you have even MORE success!!! Your in a very nice position to reach your goals as long as you don't fvck yourself by putting the cart before the horse...

    TO THE DIET SECTION!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    See, what Marcus is saying is whatever happens while your on cycle, it will evaporate immediately when you stop the steroids because you never learned how to eat first. That diet cannot support ANY new tissue growth, so all your left with is all the potential drawbacks and none of the benefits. It's like being shot dead in an ill-conceived bank robbery. It doesn't matter how much money you have in the bag, it's over before you started. The idea is to get some sort of lasting benefit. That's the pay off for the risk. Your deal right now is all risk and ZERO benefit.

    Here's the good news though. Since you don't know how to eat, once you figure that out you'll grow like a weed!!! All the benefit with none of the risk!!! How's that for the up side? Then, after you've made huge progress, about a year or 2 from now you might consider trying the AAS and then you have even MORE success!!! Your in a very nice position to reach your goals as long as you don't fvck yourself by putting the cart before the horse...

    TO THE DIET SECTION!!!!!
    Damn, that's gotta be one of the best, positive, to the point and entertaining posts I have seen here. Keep'm coming Titan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    Damn, that's gotta be one of the best, positive, to the point and entertaining posts I have seen here. Keep'm coming Titan.
    Thanks man. I like belittling the uninformed as much as the next guy, but every once in a while you see a guy in a perfect position to take a step back and do it all right and get exactly what he wants. This looked like one of those guys and times. I hope it works....Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99
    Thanks man. I like belittling the uninformed as much as the next guy, but every once in a while you see a guy in a perfect position to take a step back and do it all right and get exactly what he wants. This looked like one of those guys and times. I hope it works....Thanks again.
    One can hope he takes all you said in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    See, what Marcus is saying is whatever happens while your on cycle, it will evaporate immediately when you stop the steroids because you never learned how to eat first. That diet cannot support ANY new tissue growth, so all your left with is all the potential drawbacks and none of the benefits. It's like being shot dead in an ill-conceived bank robbery. It doesn't matter how much money you have in the bag, it's over before you started. The idea is to get some sort of lasting benefit. That's the pay off for the risk. Your deal right now is all risk and ZERO benefit.

    Here's the good news though. Since you don't know how to eat, once you figure that out you'll grow like a weed!!! All the benefit with none of the risk!!! How's that for the up side? Then, after you've made huge progress, about a year or 2 from now you might consider trying the AAS and then you have even MORE success!!! Your in a very nice position to reach your goals as long as you don't fvck yourself by putting the cart before the horse...

    TO THE DIET SECTION!!!!!
    I really liked what you said here. You didn't give him the bullshit about age, but rather made a very good point. I am going to post this in a different thread because I like it so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuttonChop View Post
    I really liked what you said here. You didn't give him the bullshit about age, but rather made a very good point. I am going to post this in a different thread because I like it so much.
    so you're calling the age thing BS then?

    and guess what, you're 20. surprise surprise
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    so you're calling the age thing BS then?

    and guess what, you're 20. surprise surprise
    yea you should see the other thread how there is no evidence that steroids are worse for a 21 year old then a 25 year old

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    yea you should see the other thread how there is no evidence that steroids are worse for a 21 year old then a 25 year old
    Please, I would LOVE to see some evidence on this! Genuinely interested.

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    I ate a better diet than that before i stepped foot in a gym

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    Do you mind if i steal your diet? Ive been having problems building muscle and gaining weight and would like to continue doing so. Thanks!

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    Obviously, I can see why you would think I am biased. I made no attempt at lying about my age when I joined this board even though I had lurked long enough to know the 25 only rule. There are a lot of teens out there who are as mature as a 25 year old. And there are those out there who are 25 but have the mind of a pre-pubescent boy.

    I am just against this generalization when there is not strong evidence.

    I do not need to green light from anyone here to use AAS. As I have posted about before, if I really want to know about a cycle, I can just LIE about my age when I create a NEW account here. But, I am trying to get across a point. DIET DIET DIET TRAINING and DIET...not all this age related discrimination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuttonChop;5751***
    Obviously, I can see why you would think I am biased. I made no attempt at lying about my age when I joined this board even though I had lurked long enough to know the 25 only rule. There are a lot of teens out there who are as mature as a 25 year old. And there are those out there who are 25 but have the mind of a pre-pubescent boy.

    I am just against this generalization when there is not strong evidence.

    I do not need to green light from anyone here to use AAS. As I have posted about before, if I really want to know about a cycle, I can just LIE about my age when I create a NEW account here. But, I am trying to get across a point. DIET DIET DIET TRAINING and DIET...not all this age related discrimination.
    then sod off, and spread your sh1t somewhere else. hows that sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    then sod off, and spread your sh1t somewhere else. hows that sound?
    That is very unlike of you dec. I thought I was being reasonable. Please tell me where I went so off track that you can't even be respectful to me and point me in the right direction?

    As for the green light thing, our bodybuilding community is built on sharing of knowledge. I was just trying to make a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuttonChop View Post
    That is very unlike of you dec. I thought I was being reasonable. Please tell me where I went so off track that you can't even be respectful to me and point me in the right direction?

    As for the green light thing, our bodybuilding community is built on sharing of knowledge. I was just trying to make a point.
    shows how many of my posts you've read.

    we encourage sensible use here, so why is it arrogant youngsters like you persist in trying to undermine it every 5mins? how many threads by kids, who have come back begging for help cos they've fvcked themselves up, do you want us to dig up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukeaziz View Post
    Hi im 4 weeks in test enanthate 500mg. Ive been eating around 3000 calories, cardio 3 times a week. Ive gained Only about 3 kilo. Could i be doing somthing wrong? Any help apreciated. Thanks
    It takes 4-5 weeks for the TEST E to really start coming on. I think your doing too much cardio if your wanting size
    and your diet may need adjusted depending your stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by **** View Post
    It takes 4-5 weeks for the TEST E to really start coming on. I think your doing too much cardio if your wanting size
    and your diet may need adjusted depending your stats.
    and as usual, you just jump in and disregard everything we post. i really wonder what your true motive is sometimes

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    No, I think I was drunk posting and the boys discreetly deleted it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99
    No, I think I was drunk posting and the boys discreetly deleted it...
    Ahh I see it there now...

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    Ooops!! And while I'm cutting too.... for shame!!!!!

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