oatmeal69's 2nd cycle diary

[oatmeal69]

Ate poorly this weekend, up 9 pounds overall. back to the grind!
Upped Arimidex dose to .5mg/day for the week. - noticing significant back & shoulder acne, and very slight nipple enlargement.

[oatmeal69]

New pix.
I feel like I'm smoother, but have added some size.

[oatmeal69]

Pinned chest today for the first time, already feeling the soreness!
Ate some snickers, a burrito and fajitas this weekend, and a "normal person" breakfast Sunday. Back to the routine today - actually lost a couple pounds, don't know how! Been REALLY hungry lately.

[oatmeal69]

Shoulder workout yesterday was best ever.
Did Arnolds but on a very slight (80-85 deg.) back rest - really felt it!
Noticeable size and strength gains. Test Enanthate definitely takes longer to really kick in than Prop. Tren E - same longer reaction over Tren - A
Eating is not the cleanest on weekends, but I'm still sticking to my plan. Mostly it involves snacking on less than awesome food in addition to my regular diet. Still, I don't seem to be gaining any fat. Tren is some powerful stuff.
Next cycle I will up the Tren dose to 450 mg / week - but that won't be until September or so.

[lovbyts]

keep up the good work

[oatmeal69]

Switched from dumbbell flat bench to barbell flat bench yesterday - REALLY feel it today!! I'll be doing that at least for the rest of this cycle.

[oatmeal69]

I'm about 185 LBS - that's 20 pounds higher than when I started.
I've been eating sub-optimally lately. I eat all my regular meals on schedule, but lately I'm so hungry! I have been eating junk on top of it. a few bags of pretzels, a Mexican meal at a restaurant, etc. I'm not as lean as my avatar by any means, but I still see my top two abs, and have a line down each side of my abs. I don't feel like I'm putting on a lot of fat. My arms are still decently defined and my legs are tight. I feel like I'm adding quality mass to my legs especially, but also my back and top. The only things lagging are my arms.
I wonder, is it really possible to gain 10 pounds of quality lean mass in one cycle?
Either way, I do need to try to stick to the diet. The less crap I put on, the less time I need to spend on the treadmill post cycle.

[oatmeal69]

Upping A-Dex dose to .5mg ED.
I have substantial shoulder and back acne for the last few weeks. I feel very full and bloated. I don't think all the weight I've gained suddenly is from a few bags of pretzels and a meal or two out at a restaurant.

[Back In Black]

Have you been eating the above diet at 2400 cals or have there been changes? Other than the several cheats?

During PCT you know you'll have to up the cals/carbs and cut back on cardio?

How many weeks of your cycle are left?

[oatmeal69]

I have bumped to 2,600 cals but have been eating clean the last week.
I have 3 weeks left in my cycle.
PCT is going to be quite difficult - I am moving to an island June 1 for 3-4 months. There is no gym. Cardio and bodyweight exercise is all I will have access to - in addition to limited quality on foods.

[Back In Black]

So there's a very realistic chance you will lose your gains regardless.

Can you list how you split your 2600 cals into meals and the macro's in each of those meals and where your workout fits in the day?

[oatmeal69]

So there's a very realistic chance you will lose your gains regardless.

Bummer, I hope not. I think I can still put together a diet of clean "real" food. But my access to Costco - and hence egg whites, and quality bulk food will be quite limited. My job will be physically demanding, but I wouldn't call it "working out." Whatever I can do to keep what I've gained - without adding fat will be appreciated, I've worked too hard for this!

Can you list how you split your 2600 cals into meals and the macro's in each of those meals and where your workout fits in the day?

Yes, post #2 in this thread is very close. I added some oats and fat free cottage cheese to my shake, so my cals went up to about 2,600 but the rest of it is pretty typical. The last couple days I've just done chicken and spinach with balsamic for dinner in an effort to cut carbs a little.

[ironbeck]

Good posts.. hoping you will keep log consistantly and will subscribe to this thread.

[oatmeal69]

Good posts.. hoping you will keep log consistantly and will subscribe to this thread.

Thanks, and I will - all the way through PCT. When it comes time to cycle again, I found keeping a diary of my last cycle will REALLY help dial the next one in the future.

[ironbeck]

Nice log, I have subscribed and hope you continue to post.

[ironbeck]

I'm thinking of running the same cycle next.

[Back In Black]

Oatmeal, I'm gonna list my macro split for 2600 cals later and see how it seems to you.

[oatmeal69]

Awesome, looking forward to it.

[Back In Black]

Ok, this is what it would look like.

Meals 1 - 5 - 50g carbs, 45g pro, 8-10g fat

Meal 6 - 45g pro, 10g fat

That would be off cycle though. You could swap the carbs and pro arount whilst on cycle if you want. Then during PCT raising carbs by 15-20g per meal may not be that much of an issue.

I much prefer having an even split throughout my meals rather than 70g pro at one sitting and 20 the next and 30 the next then 40 etc.

My concern re: losing your gains didn't relate to diet but to workouts. You are only going to be able to do bodyweight exercises and that will likely make an impact. Unless you do something a bit like Rock in Rocky IV and use some rocks and logs etc!

[ironbeck]

Adrian....I did it!

[ironbeck]

keep posting....seems like every time somones cycle kicks they stop posting.

[oatmeal69]

The other problem with cutting cals much lower is that I get so tired. Two naps yesterday and still a full 9 hours last night...

[oatmeal69]

Oh I will... Not much to report. I cut my cals down to see if I can get rid of some of this pudge. I'm also taking the week off from training arms. They won't grow no matter what I do, the only thing I can guess now is over-training.

[oatmeal69]

Dropped about 2 pounds.
Skipped arms and shoulders this week - Shoulders are growing, I need my arms to catch up! About 3-4 more injections of Tren left, then just Test and HCG until about June 1. Two weeks off, then start PCT.

[ironbeck]

How r the sides coming along? I have been getting into the candy bar stash...and bam...pimples....instanly.

[oatmeal69]

Sides are manageable - Acne is subsiding. The usual night sweats and momentary aggression/frustration with the Tren. Still having trouble dropping fat/water - whatever it is...

[oatmeal69]

Last Tren shot today.

I now think I've been over-training my arms - even while on cycle. I had a dedicated arm day. I skipped arm day last week, and did triceps with my chest on chest day, and biceps on back day. My biceps are still sore 3 days later, and I feel like I got a better lat workout as well.
Wish I'd tried this earlier in my cycle.

[oatmeal69]

I'm still up 15-18 pounds on this cycle. Some is muscle, and I'm sure some is bloat from the Test. Either way, I will start fasted cardio tomorrow A.M. in addition to my regular workout and cardio PWO. I'm on Test only for two weeks now.

[oatmeal69]

Last Test injection today. Arimidex ends next week.
Haven't worked out other than cardio in 7 days - I'm in the middle of a move. Eating and drinking poorly as well. Haven't lost any muscle, but damn sure haven't leaned up any either.
Hopefully when I get settled I can get right back into a daily cardio routine.
Weights will be another matter - there is no gym, etc. where I'm going.

[oatmeal69]

Last Test injection today. Arimidex ends next week.
Haven't worked out other than cardio in 7 days - I'm in the middle of a move. Eating and drinking poorly as well. Haven't lost any muscle, but damn sure haven't leaned up any either.
Hopefully when I get settled I can get right back into a daily cardio routine.
Weights will be another matter - there is no gym, etc. where I'm going.

[oatmeal69]

Ended Arimidex last night. Anxious to start PCT, acne has increased a bit and still feel fat... But I've been eating like crap and not working out while I've been moving too. I have been doing fasted running in the A.M. most days, however.

[oatmeal69]

Tamoxifen 40MG/day, for two weeks. Going to 20MG/day for the rest of my PCT
Clomid 50mg/ED for one week, continuing that for another, then 25MG/day for rest of PCT
Will start Clenbuterol soon.
Haven't been eating well, and very little weights outside my physically strenuous job.
Running 4-5 days weekly.
Lost some hardness, but I'm still mostly concerned with not gaining any more - and continuing to lose - fat. Probably won't happen the way I'm eating, need to clean up diet! There is no gym here, and along with a new routine, move, job that leaves me tired, etc. I don't see any realistic weight routine in my immediate future.

[oatmeal69]

End PCT.
Eating poorly, and no weight training at all. Not having access to a gym, and 10 hour work days sucks!! I've lost some size, and gained some fat.
Still running when I can. Need to get off this island and back to a place with a gym.