question for RAZOR

[Vettester]

I never go into the TRT section cause Im not in TRT so thats why I never been there. Talk to atomi, he knows more about the nolvadex and how you can get by with just that alone. I just choose to use the Torem for extra caution cause I hate clomid.

Razor, you're missing out on the some of the most educational threads in this forum! E2 management and people looking to restart their HPTA are daily discussions there. Our emphasis with having lab work on hand is first and foremost. I run labs 3x per year, and like most there, we keep everything for comparison standpoint. Take a browse in there sometime and you will see what I mean.

I was asking Razor the question because he had experience with these two compounds. I might not know as much as some off the guys around here, but hey at least I'm not acting like a tool.^^^^ That sounds like something my 4 yr old would say. Come on man.

Easy green, it's just hard for people to get overly encouraged to participate in a thread when it's directed at one individual. Guys like Spywizard can be a huge asset for you, I promise, so please get to know some of the other members, and consider any future threads to be directed at a topic; possibly not an individual.

[Atomini]

I know for a fact that Nolvadex is quite adequate at raising gonadotropin secretion, and in turn testosterone secretion in the body. I have no personal experience with Toremifene, but from the studies and data i've seen, it is not as effective as Nolvadex at this job (though it still has his function of stimulating endogenous testosterone production). I was about to use some a few years back for PCT, but I ended up selling it to a buddy of mine and he claims he recovered pretty good on it during his PCT. I do not remember the dosing protocol he used. But that's the extent of my personal observation on Toremifene.

[Razor]

I know for a fact that Nolvadex is quite adequate at raising gonadotropin secretion, and in turn testosterone secretion in the body. I have no personal experience with Toremifene, but from the studies and data i've seen, it is not as effective as Nolvadex at this job (though it still has his function of stimulating endogenous testosterone production). I was about to use some a few years back for PCT, but I ended up selling it to a buddy of mine and he claims he recovered pretty good on it during his PCT. I do not remember the dosing protocol he used. But that's the extent of my personal observation on Toremifene.

Would
Nolva at 40/40/2020
Torem 60/60/30/30
Work?

I like swifto idea of running at 120 for 14 days then 60 for 4 weeks as well and the numbers look great
So
120/120/60/60/60/60
But still use the nolva at the normal dose?

[Atomini]

I like Swifto's idea if one were to use both.

[Razor]

I like Swifto's idea if one were to use both.

I do too, I'm going to use his idea from now on, I love torem so much

[Lemonada8]

aww looks like i missed a good pct arguement :P