Why the hate on Anavar?

[Rwy]

that almost sounds like you were taking winnie. the knees hurting all the time is nothing i've ever experienced with var, but it did happen the first time i took winnie.

btw... var is faked alot due to price.

Hmmm I guess anything is possible.

[jimmyinkedup]

If you run var with test and tren at a dosage of 50mgs/day or higher while cutting ..you will have little hate for it. Its amazing with tren...you almost cant help but recomp with that stack.
Of note: you need a good ugl source or pharma if possible. A lot of ugl's sell winny as var.

[bobryan]

im trying to get on anavar but cant get it anywhere, no one has it smh

[warmouth]

im trying to get on anavar but cant get it anywhere, no one has it smh

Where do you go fishing usually?

[havanakid]

Where do you go fishing usually?

lol...hes looking for big game huh?

[bobryan]

Where do you go fishing usually?

I usually go at this local lake, its usually abundant with whatever fish, but for some reason there isnt any marlin

[jay2pay]

I've read this thread twice and I don't see where anyone has clearly answered the OP's original question. I am a newbie with a similar interest. I'm 35 years old and not wanting to start anything until i've done several months or research. Can anyone who has actually had experience with Anavar:

1. Support the claims that it is an excellent product? Cite specific examples?

2. Support the claims that it is a waste of money/time? Cite Specific examples?

Just like many people I'm here to learn. This could be a good thread if we could just get a little more specific and hear from people with experience.

[austinite]

^^ sounds about right. The worst from var for me are the shin pumps which tend to hinder cardio efforts some.

[Full_Auto]

i may grab another 50x20mg anavar before week 7 comes and run 40mg/day. but i look at it like this - if the consensus is 20-100mg/day, why jump right in at 60 or 80?? that my be overkill if your the guy who only needs 20-40. i'd rather work up to the sweet spot than over shoot the sweet spot right off the bat. and by sweet spot, i mean noticable effects at the cheapest cost/lowest dose. that would be the most efficient way to go about it, i believe. also, i am usually a "low dose" kind of guy when it comes to meds in general. i take 1 extra strength tylenol to get rid of a headache, when most people i know take 2 or 3. i think dosages are generally thrown around too loosely anyway. "every person is different and will react differently"...this statement can probably be found in about 1,000 different threads on this website and every other steroid website. yet, dosages are set in stone???

i've heard from some people that 60mg+/day would be overkill. and given my size & weight, i feel that would hold true with me and that a low dose would be effective FOR ME.

and what about the .125mg x body weight (LB) formula??

[Times Roman]

i may grab another 50x20mg anavar before week 7 comes and run 40mg/day. but i look at it like this - if the consensus is 20-100mg/day, why jump right in at 60 or 80?? that my be overkill if your the guy who only needs 20-40. i'd rather work up to the sweet spot than over shoot the sweet spot right off the bat. and by sweet spot, i mean noticable effects at the cheapest cost/lowest dose. that would be the most efficient way to go about it, i believe. also, i am usually a "low dose" kind of guy when it comes to meds in general. i take 1 extra strength tylenol to get rid of a headache, when most people i know take 2 or 3. i think dosages are generally thrown around too loosely anyway. "every person is different and will react differently"...this statement can probably be found in about 1,000 different threads on this website and every other steroid website. yet, dosages are set in stone???

i've heard from some people that 60mg+/day would be overkill. and given my size & weight, i feel that would hold true with me and that a low dose would be effective FOR ME.

and what about the .125mg x body weight (LB) formula??

mate, i 100% agree with you. start low and work your way up. biggest constraint for most is the cash. if not an issue, and no worries if too low dose doesn't provide measureable benefit, then you are g2g. Once you get into the 40 - 60mg a day range, your body will begin to suppress natural test production. This is a concern for me, and should be a concern for you. But if you are going to do an orals only cycle, then this is the right dose and the right compound to do it with. Eventually, you will want to switch and make test a part of every cycle.

Good luck!

[Full_Auto]

mate, i 100% agree with you. start low and work your way up. biggest constraint for most is the cash. if not an issue, and no worries if too low dose doesn't provide measureable benefit, then you are g2g. Once you get into the 40 - 60mg a day range, your body will begin to suppress natural test production. This is a concern for me, and should be a concern for you. But if you are going to do an orals only cycle, then this is the right dose and the right compound to do it with. Eventually, you will want to switch and make test a part of every cycle.

Good luck!

Not oral only. Already running test E, doing 250mg twice per week, 3rd injection is tomorrow. The var would be ran weeks 7-12. Adex .5mg EOD during cycle, clomid & nolva (already on hand) for PCT.

[gixxerboy1]

i may grab another 50x20mg anavar before week 7 comes and run 40mg/day. but i look at it like this - if the consensus is 20-100mg/day, why jump right in at 60 or 80?? that my be overkill if your the guy who only needs 20-40. i'd rather work up to the sweet spot than over shoot the sweet spot right off the bat. and by sweet spot, i mean noticable effects at the cheapest cost/lowest dose. that would be the most efficient way to go about it, i believe. also, i am usually a "low dose" kind of guy when it comes to meds in general. i take 1 extra strength tylenol to get rid of a headache, when most people i know take 2 or 3. i think dosages are generally thrown around too loosely anyway. "every person is different and will react differently"...this statement can probably be found in about 1,000 different threads on this website and every other steroid website. yet, dosages are set in stone???

i've heard from some people that 60mg+/day would be overkill. and given my size & weight, i feel that would hold true with me and that a low dose would be effective FOR ME.

and what about the .125mg x body weight (LB) formula??

but there is no concusses on 20mg. I agree with you why run more then you need to. It waste money too. But it also waste your money and time running such a low dose that its not effective.
I dont know who you talked to that say 60mg is overkill. I dont think you will find one person on this board who have actually USED var that will tell you that 20-40mg's is worth it. You can read a ton of things online. Some shit is old and out dated. Some is written by people that never tried it. You have had a bunch of people that have used it telling 20-40mg is a waste.
I'm not selling it to you. I dont get anything if you buy more. so what would be my reason to give you wrong info? I want to see you get good results.

[Full_Auto]

but there is no concusses on 20mg. I agree with you why run more then you need to. It waste money too. But it also waste your money and time running such a low dose that its not effective.
I dont know who you talked to that say 60mg is overkill. I dont think you will find one person on this board who have actually USED var that will tell you that 20-40mg's is worth it. You can read a ton of things online. Some shit is old and out dated. Some is written by people that never tried it. You have had a bunch of people that have used it telling 20-40mg is a waste.
I'm not selling it to you. I dont get anything if you buy more. so what would be my reason to give you wrong info? I want to see you get good results.

I understand what your saying, and appreciate your advice for sure. I guess I'm just trying to keep cost down, and like u said, I don't want to waste gear or money. And obviously, I want results. However, I also don't wanna be pumping more chemicals into my body if they aren't needed. I still have 6 weeks to decide what direction to go, so we'll see. More research I guess!!!

In another forum, I saw a cycle log by a guy who was 6'2", ran 500/mg test enan per week for 12 weeks, and ran an alternating 20,40,20,40 (mg/day) of var and the results were ASTOUNDING!! I mean the difference in size was obvious (mostly from the test) but he was significantly leaner & rediculously more vascular. So from that, I figured being 4" shorter than he was and considering this is my first cycle, 20mg/day should have some effect on me.

Plus my girl says she doesn't like massive "gorilla juice heads" with veins all over there body, lol.

The other option I was considering was to just not run the var this cycle, save it for my spring cut. So I'd have plenty of time to buy more var before then and could run the 40-60mg days to really harden up before summer hits. Undecided really, but part of me wants to see how I'll react to the 20mg/day this cycle so I know what to expect and know how much I need to use come spring time.

[jay2pay]

Thanks Qixxer.

1. How long do the pumps last?
2. Why does Anavar cause this increase in pump/vascularity?
3. What other products do you think are superior and why?

[gixxerboy1]

Thanks Qixxer.

1. How long do the pumps last? Up to a half hour for me to disappear completely, painful for about 10-15 mins
2. Why does Anavar cause this increase in pump/vascularity? honestly dont know what in the drug cause it
3. What other products do you think are superior and why? superior for what goal?

in bold

[austinite]

Waiting for Qixxer.

[jay2pay]

Superior for the same goals as one would use Anavar:

1. Increase LBM.
2. Decrease BF.
3. Maintain overall body improvements over long period of time.
4. Low risk of side effects.

[gixxerboy1]

Superior for the same goals as one would use Anavar:

1. Increase LBM.
2. Decrease BF.
3. Maintain overall body improvements over long period of time.
4. Low risk of side effects.

mast, primo, winny

[jay2pay]

Thanks again Qixxer.

Is cost the only factor in why you recommend this other gear or are there other considerations? Can you elaborate on why they are superior? Keep in mind I'm a novice, and I believe the OP is in the same boat. Anavar seems more attractive because of what appears to be its relative simplicity. One product, taken orally, maybe with a testosterone base. Seems easy. I'm open to the idea that other substances are better for the purpose of achieving the goals stated above. . . I'm just trying to understand specifically why.

[DigitalGorilla]

I have done 4 VAR cycles....love the stuf!!!!

[gixxerboy1]

no. primo is actually more then var.
with var i would also be injecting test. So if your injecting test its just as simple injecting 2 things in the same needle. So jsut as easy as the idea you posted.

i'll use mast as comparison. in the mirror i wont notice a huge difference in results. Mast would be cheaper. Mast wouldnt give me the painful pumps. Depending on what mast you use determines how often its injected. So 2 injections a week is easier then pills every day IMO
Down side in comparison of the 2. Mast is worse on hairline. Var you may see the results quicker. Again depends on what mast you are using.

I'm in no way saying var doesnt have its place or it isnt good. It just isnt the holy grail that some make it out to be.

[jay2pay]

DigitalGorilla,

What do you like about anavar? Do you use test with it? What kind?

[DigitalGorilla]

DigitalGorilla,

What do you like about anavar? Do you use test with it? What kind?

Well for me - I saw results within 5 or 6 days. Most notably was my forearms. And I cant say how much I lost because of the Var cause I was on other stuff ...but over all i lost over 100 lbs. VAR was a big help - Im sure of it. Also - for me the stregnth was a big plus. I was puttting up stuff I hadnt before. And of my 4 cycles two were on Test two were alone.....I had better results while on test HOWEVER - that cycle I took a higher dose of VAR so it depends how u look at it

[agh360]

Where do you go fishing usually?

Lol.....