Baselines transformation - you decide

[auswest]

Vote cut guys the results will be much more dramatic than an attempt at a recomp

[EyE]

I voted CUT all the way, you would look insane shredded.........

[baseline_9]

Here are a few pics from my last cut/ recomp... The cut was natty and then the growth phase after was with gear

[Knockout_Power]

I thought AAS use wasnt advised to those under 16 years old

[baseline_9]

I thought AAS use wasnt advised to those under 16 years old

Haha

I'm British m8.... Not like you Italians who look like old men....

[Knockout_Power]

Haha

I'm British m8.... Not like you Italians who look like old men....

the grease keeps us youthful...

besides, the older the bull... the stiffer the horn

[lovbyts]

I thought AAS use wasnt advised to those under 16 years old

LOL I was thinking the same thing but even 16 would be pushing it IMO.

[Shol'va]

I thought AAS use wasnt advised to those under 16 years old

Wow you look younger than any guy I ever dated....Must be that English weather or damn good DNA!

[energizer bunny]

Voted mate.......cut all the way for me, this will show the greatest difference, I want to see vains in your abs and an 8 pack!.....good luck whatever you decide to do.

[baseline_9]

Voted mate.......cut all the way for me, this will show the greatest difference, I want to see vains in your and and an 8 pack!.....good luck whatever you decide to do.

Sounds good to me.... Vascularity is a defo if I get lean... Tren makes me vascular as fuk wen leaner

Where abouts u from in England m8?

[energizer bunny]

newcastle mate........how about you?

[baseline_9]

newcastle mate........how about you?

Birmingham

[warmouth]

I had to vote recomp. Thats a hard call though. I think you have plenty of size, and a cut would really look great, but a recomp would, IMO, be just as impressive. You'd cut some fat and get a little more muscle. My gut said Bulk at first, but Im for recomp. I think you would look similar with a cut or recomp.

[MR-FQ320]

Are you using AAS base ?

[baseline_9]

Are you using AAS base ?

Yeh... Should be fun

[MR-FQ320]

Yeh... Should be fun

Cool.

[Lunk1]

Assuming your going to cycle...I would love to see you bulk then cut during the 12 weeks. So many are interested in the diet and timing to pull off both a bulk and cut in one cycle!

[baseline_9]

Assuming your going to cycle...I would love to see you bulk then cut during the 12 weeks. So many are interested in the diet and timing to pull off both a bulk and cut in one cycle!

Me too.... Suppose I best get thinking then lol

[warmouth]

12 weeks would be too short to bulk and cut with great results. Recomp!

[baseline_9]

12 weeks would be too short to bulk and cut with great results. Recomp!

That's basically what a recomp is m8....

If I recomp it will simply be a case of timing a cutting phase and a bulking phase so that by the end of it I look a bit leaner and a bit bigger.... The results from a recomp will not be very dramatic at all TBH... That's why I was so shocked that so many people voted recomp...

Maybe they think I'm going to loose 20 lbs of fat and gain 20 lbs of muscle lol.... Haha not gonna happen....

If I recomp I will probably end up a bit lighter and may gain 3-6 lbs of muscle tops....

[warmouth]

That's basically what a recomp is m8....

If I recomp it will simply be a case of timing a cutting phase and a bulking phase so that by the end of it I look a bit leaner and a bit bigger.... The results from a recomp will not be very dramatic at all TBH... That's why I was so shocked that so many people voted recomp...

Maybe they think I'm going to loose 20 lbs of fat and gain 20 lbs of muscle lol.... Haha not gonna happen....

If I recomp I will probably end up a bit lighter and may gain 3-6 lbs of muscle tops....

I know that, but to officially bulk then cut in 12 weeks, we wouldn't be able to tel a difference unless you were posting pics every couple of weeks.

I would like to add that I originally wanted you to bulk. Reason is because I think you are one of the few of us who has those freakish genetics to grow to monsterous proprtions. However, I feel a recomp best suited for the competition.

[Lunk1]

In all honest...a cut would do you the most justice in terms of the comp but the recomp would best serve the board! Your call......

[warmouth]

In all honest...a cut would do you the most justice in terms of the comp but the recomp would best serve the board! Your call......

Ha ha! That's what I think too. A cut would do him great, but a recomp would be great for us.

[baseline_9]

Lol yeh recomp will still be good for me tho....

A big part I a recomp is actually getting leaner anyway.... That's probably the biggest part.... Once you get lean enough and then feed the body you can have a good rebound and create this 'recomp' look

It's all in the timing and knowing ur body's limits as far as calories are concerned

[Lunk1]

Lol yeh recomp will still be good for me tho....

A big part I a recomp is actually getting leaner anyway.... That's probably the biggest part.... Once you get lean enough and then feed the body you can have a good rebound and create this 'recomp' look

It's all in the timing and knowing ur body's limits as far as calories are concerned

Out of curiousity, assuming you plan to recomp. Will you cut then bulk??? I personaly see it working better the other way....

[baseline_9]

Out of curiousity, assuming you plan to recomp. Will you cut then bulk??? I personaly see it working better the other way....

Yeh I would do a hard cut using a PSMF diet in 13 day blocks with a 1 in 14 refeed day while loading long esters and I'd then bump cals to mtnce and add calories each week while increasing training intensity and load.... I'd also bring in extra gear for the growth phase including orals....

[Lunk1]

Yeh I would do a hard cut using a PSMF diet in 13 day blocks with a 1 in 14 refeed day while loading long esters and I'd then bump cals to mtnce and add calories each week while increasing training intensity and load.... I'd also bring in extra gear for the growth phase including orals....

Interesting. I would thing it would be easier, if nothing else, to simply add the size then cut the shyt out of it!

[baseline_9]

Interesting. I would thing it would be easier, if nothing else, to simply add the size then cut the shyt out of it!

Ur 'bro' theory sounds good but that's just not an optimal way to do things...

I'm not taking the piss with that either lol

If I were to bulk then realistically I'm not gonna gain a load of size and I will for sure gain extra fat... So by the time I have burned even more fat at the end I will look flat and feel crap...

By doing a hard cut at the start I will be in a well primed position to maximise muscle gain while limiting Bodyfat gain...

After a cut you have a 'rebound' phase... Hormonal, metabolic and mental... If you time it right and keep macros in check you 'should' be able to gain LBM with little fat mass gain....


Anything in 'these' means I'm talking bro-science or it's just theory lol

[warmouth]

Lol yeh recomp will still be good for me tho....

A big part I a recomp is actually getting leaner anyway.... That's probably the biggest part.... Once you get lean enough and then feed the body you can have a good rebound and create this 'recomp' look

It's all in the timing and knowing ur body's limits as far as calories are concerned

I'm excited. I'm curious to see how this works out for you because I know you can manipulate you mind and body as well as anyone here... Freak!

[baseline_9]

I will close the poll off 2moro after my pics go up... And then create a thread and a plan of action

Looking forward to this guys and girls

[Sgt. Hartman]

I haven't read through the other responses but I'll vote for you to cut/prime for the next 4-6 weeks and then start a burst bulk type cycle.

You could lose a couple percent BF naturally or with some thermos and a strict diet over the next few weeks and use the last 6-8 weeks to really grow. Short esters obviously.

I guess that's considered a recomp for your poll but imo not really because you have enough time to cut/prime for a few weeks as you don't have that much bf to lose and then you could use the last couple months to really explode with growth.

I'm voting recomp but that's not really what I'm saying. 6 weeks is enough to cut/prime to get lean at your current bf and another 6 weeks is enough to really grow imo.

I'll be following regardless......

[baseline_9]

Re-comp it is then guys....

I won't let you guys down who voted to cut tho either....

Let's do this.... Log to come soon...

[RaginCajun]

Re-comp it is then guys....

I won't let you guys down who voted to cut tho either....

Let's do this.... Log to come soon...

Can't wait to see what you come up with

[baseline_9]

That pics a few years old now lol

[Shol'va]

That pics a few years old now lol

Ok I'll cut you slack on that then..lol