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    I'm amazed Nick didn't cry like a little girl at the end. He's normally a huge poor sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar View Post
    I'm amazed Nick didn't cry like a little girl at the end. He's normally a huge poor sport.
    lol thats bcuz he cried in-between the rounds lol....but yeh to see him hug and raise his hand was a bit unusual

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    I was surprised also about nick raising gsp hand. Gsp had the fight won before it started. He always has a game plan and executes it well. Nick only like to box. He may have bjj that he never uses which makes him almost one dementional.
    Gsp is way way faster with the jab and caught nick a lot. Those who watch ufc were probably not surprised.
    Gsp fighting silva is a very bad idea.

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    Hendricks has such a unique boxing style its so similar to the sambo fighters that come out of Russia. The very interesting about Hendricks is anyone who watched him wrestle at Ok knew he had a wrestling would fit well into mma. Hendricks presents very unique problems for gsp.

    Nick is the most effective boxer in mma but he has always had low fight iq and is just all around very unique. Nick has at time lived up to his potential but never has he truly capitalized on it. Nick does have power but he mixes it up with his "Stockton slap", he also has the best body shots in mma and very effective bjj, however he has historically had difficulty with wrestlers so the outcome was no surprise to myself.

    Gsp is an incredibly effective wrestler. His ground game is overlooked a lot but its sound and plays to his strengths. He has a couple very unique have guard passes that you really see in mma but are often used in grappling tournys. He covers so well which translates into the beautiful blast double he often uses. His jab well is not the most technically in traditional boxing terms its so effective for the mma and more importantly his style.

    Overall it was a wonderful card. Hendricks showed why he is the number one contender and gsp beat his most notable opponent in awhile but also showed his shot can be stuffed. Should be some interesting matches coming up.

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    For once I actually think gsp can lose to a person. Jh is a great wrestler and an even better boxer with insane knock out power. Condit has an incredible chin. He took some ridiculous shots to the chin/face. I know gsp does not have as good a chin as condit so that leaves me thinking he can't be caught with any of the 4 condit got caught with.
    I think gsp will fight jh very similar to Diaz but jh is extremely fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    For once I actually think gsp can lose to a person. Jh is a great wrestler and an even better boxer with insane knock out power. Condit has an incredible chin. He took some ridiculous shots to the chin/face. I know gsp does not have as good a chin as condit so that leaves me thinking he can't be caught with any of the 4 condit got caught with.
    I think gsp will fight jh very similar to Diaz but jh is extremely fast.
    if Hendricks can stop the takedown then its a wrap for Gsp....I've wanted this fight 3 months ago....same with Silva and Weidman....I think two of the greats are about to fall

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    GSP is such and amazing person that happens to be a badass fighter. Diaz could never get into his head and rattle him he is to disciplined. It was a great fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Hendricks has such a unique boxing style its so similar to the sambo fighters that come out of Russia. The very interesting about Hendricks is anyone who watched him wrestle at Ok knew he had a wrestling would fit well into mma. Hendricks presents very unique problems for gsp.

    Nick is the most effective boxer in mma but he has always had low fight iq and is just all around very unique. Nick has at time lived up to his potential but never has he truly capitalized on it. Nick does have power but he mixes it up with his "Stockton slap", he also has the best body shots in mma and very effective bjj, however he has historically had difficulty with wrestlers so the outcome was no surprise to myself.

    Gsp is an incredibly effective wrestler. His ground game is overlooked a lot but its sound and plays to his strengths. He has a couple very unique have guard passes that you really see in mma but are often used in grappling tournys. He covers so well which translates into the beautiful blast double he often uses. His jab well is not the most technically in traditional boxing terms its so effective for the mma and more importantly his style.

    Overall it was a wonderful card. Hendricks showed why he is the number one contender and gsp beat his most notable opponent in awhile but also showed his shot can be stuffed. Should be some interesting matches coming up.
    Well said. Hendrick is a horrible match up for GSP. George has a weak chin, Johhny throws bombs. I honestly thought GSP was going to get dropped in the 4th by Diaz, I think Nick should have capitalized more on that opportunity. Imo we will have a new 170lb champ real soon. Conduit is not easy to take down, Hendricks made it look like eating cake. I think GSP will have to finally worry about being taken down plus being KO'd. GSP's camp is going to have to come up with a great game plan for that fight, but if anyone can do it they can. I say GSP gets KO'd 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG View Post
    Well said. Hendrick is a horrible match up for GSP. George has a weak chin, Johhny throws bombs. I honestly thought GSP was going to get dropped in the 4th by Diaz, I think Nick should have capitalized more on that opportunity. Imo we will have a new 170lb champ real soon. Conduit is not easy to take down, Hendricks made it look like eating cake. I think GSP will have to finally worry about being taken down plus being KO'd. GSP's camp is going to have to come up with a great game plan for that fight, but if anyone can do it they can. I say GSP gets KO'd 3rd.
    Only thing I will add is we forget how fast gsp is. And I didn't want to argue with anyone so I didn't want to say gsp has a VERY weak chin. Probably is no one ever hits it. Thats going to change real soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82 View Post

    if Hendricks can stop the takedown then its a wrap for Gsp....I've wanted this fight 3 months ago....same with Silva and Weidman....I think two of the greats are about to fall
    Silva is not going to lose to weld. I dont even see how he is a threat.
    Explain your reasoning?
    I have seen holes to gsp game but not silva.
    Silva can beat jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG View Post
    I think GSP will have to finally worry about being taken down plus being KO'd. GSP's camp is going to have to come up with a great game plan for that fight, but if anyone can do it they can. I say GSP gets KO'd 3rd.
    yah, like getting him back on the juice... you can see that his physique is looking way different than the Condit fight cause GSP was worried about the Diaz steroid aqcuisations. I predict a much larger GSP for the Hendricks fight

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    I foresee GSP having trouble with Hendricks power. And true he has a suspect chin. But GSP works harder then any fighter at the moment. He studies his opponents like no other.

    It'll be an awesome fight for sure. But I still see GSP keeping the belt.
    While Hendricks does have power. He has never faced an opponent as dominate as GSP.
    While some say its boring or whatever.
    GSP goes into Evey fight and imposes his will.
    And that is where Hendricks will have a problem plus Hendricks hasn't seen Championship rounds yet and was gassed at the end of the Condit fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post

    Silva is not going to lose to weld. I dont even see how he is a threat.
    Explain your reasoning?
    I have seen holes to gsp game but not silva.
    Silva can beat jones
    no holes in Silva's game? sonnen vs Silva first time....as I said Silva is a bjj blackbelt BUT he is vulnerable to being takin down....same against Travis lutter he kept getting taken down....Weidman is a powerhouse and has great takedowns....took Mark Munoz down literally at will and he was a D1 champ....Silva's weakness is against wrestlers and he hasn't faced anyone with striking like Weidman....except Vitor and in all honesty I think that was a lucky win....Chael dropped Silva a few times and hes not even known for power
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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82 View Post

    no holes in Silva's game? sonnen vs Silva first time....as I said Silva is a bjj blackbelt BUT he is vulnerable to being takin down....same against Travis lutter he kept getting taken down....Weidman is a powerhouse and has great takedowns....took Mark Munoz down literally at will and he was a D1 champ....Silva's weakness is against wrestlers and he hasn't faced anyone with striking like Weidman....except Vitor and in all honesty I think that was a lucky win....Chael dropped Silva a few times and hes not even known for power
    not to mention theres a reason Silva's camp has been ducking Weidman for the last two or three matches....same with GSPs camp ducking Hendricks

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    as I said before I like Silva I just think hes about to lose....wouldn't surprise me if he got "injured" during camp ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    yah, like getting him back on the juice... you can see that his physique is looking way different than the Condit fight cause GSP was worried about the Diaz steroid aqcuisations. I predict a much larger GSP for the Hendricks fight
    I noticed that !! His legs were no where the size they usually were. I cant wait to see if he comes in bigger next fight, one thing I know is juice isnt going to help that jaw made of glass when Hendricks bangs it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82 View Post
    no holes in Silva's game? sonnen vs Silva first time....as I said Silva is a bjj blackbelt BUT he is vulnerable to being takin down....same against Travis lutter he kept getting taken down....Weidman is a powerhouse and has great takedowns....took Mark Munoz down literally at will and he was a D1 champ....Silva's weakness is against wrestlers and he hasn't faced anyone with striking like Weidman....except Vitor and in all honesty I think that was a lucky win....Chael dropped Silva a few times and hes not even known for power
    I agree, a take down and some good ground and pound and Silva's going to get stopped. A white belt could have caught Sonnen in that triangle, he just sat there with his head up.

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    Gsp will not lose to Hendricks. Gsp is a better wrestler, which will let him do what he wants. Does Hendricks have KO power, sure. Gsp will just put him on his back, and break him mentally. Besides Hendricks will gas in a 5rnd fight for sure. He was done in rnd3, and imo would of lost to Condit if it was 5rnds. Condit was still very fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg
    Gsp will not lose to Hendricks. Gsp is a better wrestler, which will let him do what he wants. Does Hendricks have KO power, sure. Gsp will just put him on his back, and break him mentally. Besides Hendricks will gas in a 5rnd fight for sure. He was done in rnd3, and imo would of lost to Condit if it was 5rnds. Condit was still very fresh.
    Not to mention how reckless Hendricks is with his holy hell hands. If he throws like he did on condit, he will pay for his recklessness. He's as good of a fighter as any, but GSP has championship experience. If I were a gambling man (which I am not) I'd bet on GSP. Will be an exciting fight I'm sure and they'll be some smacktalk like always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82 View Post

    not to mention theres a reason Silva's camp has been ducking Weidman for the last two or three matches....same with GSPs camp ducking Hendricks
    You're definitely right about the ducking. I believe both fighters are ducking because they're not money making fights. No 1 has heard of Hendrix until last night.
    Weld- People still do not know who he is!
    It's all about making the money!

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    I don't think gsp can get away from Hendricks now. As for silva I am not a fan but I just don't see the guy loosing any time soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post

    You're definitely right about the ducking. I believe both fighters are ducking because they're not money making fights. No 1 has heard of Hendrix until last night.
    Weld- People still do not know who he is!
    It's all about making the money!
    yeh no doubt there not a big draw....but I would assume Silva and GSP would make there money regardless of opponent....minus ppv and gate but still they'll get their 1/2 million for fighting....I wanted Hendricks to get the shot before he knocked out Fitch....he did to Fitch in 8 seconds what GSP couldn't do in 25 mins

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    either way their are some good fights comin down the pipe for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Gsp will not lose to Hendricks. Gsp is a better wrestler, which will let him do what he wants. Does Hendricks have KO power, sure. Gsp will just put him on his back, and break him mentally. Besides Hendricks will gas in a 5rnd fight for sure. He was done in rnd3, and imo would of lost to Condit if it was 5rnds. Condit was still very fresh.
    Ya Condit sure was fresh, but he had no power left from taking those big shots. Condit would have done much better if he would have stopped so many of the higher risk strikes, he got taken down almost every time he threw and missed with one. Gsp is strong , great wrestler, great shape but.......one good shot and that all goes to shit. Once good shot the game changes.
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    GSPs lack of conviction in finishing a fight will be his undoing shortly... It was a complete fluke cause I was just going on Condits previous fights, but entering rd 3 against GSP I told everyone in the room that if Condit wins this fight, its going to happen this round when GSP goes into "conservation mode" preparring for rounds 4&5 and Condit will kick him in the head. Turns out, Condit did his usual 1-2-highkick followthrough and GSP was on his ass. If Condit didnt hesitate and actually looked at his advantage, he could have won that fight.

    Not saying it will happen, but if Jonny lands even 1, there will be no need for this. Fight over. GSP will be forced to WIN this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG View Post
    I noticed that !! His legs were no where the size they usually were. I cant wait to see if he comes in bigger next fight, one thing I know is juice isnt going to help that jaw made of glass when Hendricks bangs it !!
    I dont wish anything horrible on any fighter, but I would like to see GSP be woken up again (a la Serra)... he owes me a lot of wasted time watching his boring fighting style. I like his takedowns, but he has not inflicted much damage in his last 3 fights (15 rounds) from his "dominant" position

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82 View Post

    yeh no doubt there not a big draw....but I would assume Silva and GSP would make there money regardless of opponent....minus ppv and gate but still they'll get their 1/2 million for fighting....I wanted Hendricks to get the shot before he knocked out Fitch....he did to Fitch in 8 seconds what GSP couldn't do in 25 mins
    Jh is fighting with I have nothing to lose mentality where gsp has the belt. I know his fights can be boring but you already know what he is going to do. A good challenger would prepare for it.
    Once jh starts to charge with that huge left gsp will lower his head and smash him to the canvas. Will he do much on the ground probably not with jh wrestling back ground. I see this as exactly like Diaz fight only if jh catches gsp is over!

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    Silva and gsp doesn't even make sense imo. Silva / jones would be a huge selling super fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    Jh is fighting with I have nothing to lose mentality where gsp has the belt. I know his fights can be boring but you already know what he is going to do. A good challenger would prepare for it.
    Once jh starts to charge with that huge left gsp will lower his head and smash him to the canvas. Will he do much on the ground probably not with jh wrestling back ground. I see this as exactly like Diaz fight only if jh catches gsp is over!
    JH is the best wrestler, he will have ever faced. I am not just saying pedigree wise but how it translates to mma. Nick in round 4 did a very basic chest defense to stuff a shot and he is not nearly as physically gifted as a JH. Also JH does really have power in both hands. Johnny wrestled right foot forward in college and is a southpaw, that is not the case for many wrestlers who transition to mma. So his shot is still as explosive as it was in college...

    Marc Liamon isn't going to try to teach Jh to work a guard game I would expect they will work half guard sweeps/scrambles if he is taken down. Also Jh covers ground very well so I expect the superman punch which threw off nicks timing wont really be a factor. Jh overhand is so unique its very ala fedor a jumping overhand hook combo that ends up straight.

    also Jh has really shown fight iq and staying composed and though he doesn't have championship experience he is a 4 time all American(two of those being national champion). He was very composed back then and he is a technician. Gsp will not out techinique him when it comes in defense or transitions. Jh had a very unique double leg in which he would split the legs, work a low single and then run the pipe on that single So if he does get deep in on a double and gsp stuffs the head and puts his dick in the dirt, I would expect JH to switch to single which is something Gsp isn't used to.

    I didn't think nick would win simply because he has always struggled with anyone with a strong wrestling base but I really think JH will pull it off.

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    also I would put money on john smith on analyzing gsp wrestling and if I could pick one man who can pick apart technique and exploit it, it would be john smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post

    JH is the best wrestler, he will have ever faced. I am not just saying pedigree wise but how it translates to mma. Nick in round 4 did a very basic chest defense to stuff a shot and he is not nearly as physically gifted as a JH. Also JH does really have power in both hands. Johnny wrestled right foot forward in college and is a southpaw, that is not the case for many wrestlers who transition to mma. So his shot is still as explosive as it was in college...

    Marc Liamon isn't going to try to teach Jh to work a guard game I would expect they will work half guard sweeps/scrambles if he is taken down. Also Jh covers ground very well so I expect the superman punch which threw off nicks timing wont really be a factor. Jh overhand is so unique its very ala fedor a jumping overhand hook combo that ends up straight.

    also Jh has really shown fight iq and staying composed and though he doesn't have championship experience he is a 4 time all American(two of those being national champion). He was very composed back then and he is a technician. Gsp will not out techinique him when it comes in defense or transitions. Jh had a very unique double leg in which he would split the legs, work a low single and then run the pipe on that single So if he does get deep in on a double and gsp stuffs the head and puts his dick in the dirt, I would expect JH to switch to single which is something Gsp isn't used to.

    I didn't think nick would win simply because he has always struggled with anyone with a strong wrestling base but I really think JH will pull it off.
    Great right up! I love the technical aspect of criticizing someones gm.
    Gsp- will knock down jh just like he did condit. Will he do much on the ground probably not. He didn't vs Diaz and mild vs condit. He just needs to watch very close that deceptive left hand that comes very quickly. So it will be decided if jh can catch him. Cause as I said before gsp is extremely fast and will fight his style. When jh jumps in with those bombs I see an easy opportunity to be taken down.
    Gsp has faced great wrestlers (hughes) but didn't have to worry about stand up.
    Jh has never faced someone as smart and strong and technical as gsp.
    Condit was going to lose the fight before it started. Let's say condit did better standing (which he didn't) he still got taken down like 6 times

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    Yeah I like Hendricks but he was given a gift. Condit stepped in last minute to replace an injured Rory McDonald.
    Rory would have destroyed Hendricks.
    Condit vs Rory McDonald next that will be a hell of a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB1982 View Post
    Yeah I like Hendricks but he was given a gift. Condit stepped in last minute to replace an injured Rory McDonald.
    Rory would have destroyed Hendricks.
    Condit vs Rory McDonald next that will be a hell of a fight.
    I was pissed Rory loses their first fight with secs to go....Rory owned Condit....Another guy to watch out for is Ellenberger....who also gave it to Condit before getting caught

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    Hughes had no stand up and wasn't near the wrestler Jh was. Jh took condit down with ease and gsp isn't Damian Maia off his back. Everyone is doubting Jh cause he isnt cut to the bone, or flashy. He has man strength from years of wrestling and mark my words JH will be the new champ.

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    Hughes had no stand up and wasn't near the wrestler Jh was. Jh took condit down with ease and gsp isn't Damian Maia off his back. Everyone is doubting Jh cause he isnt cut to the bone, or flashy. He has man strength from years of wrestling and mark my words JH will be the new champ.
    For Hendricks being such a great wrestler. He sure couldn't keep Condit down.
    Yes Hendricks took Condit down. But after the take down he had nothing. Condit did more damage off his back then Hendricks did in Condits's guard.

    Just because you can take someone down that doesn't constitute a GREAT wrestler. Its how you control your opponent after he's on the ground.

    And after the take downs Condit did more damage off his back and got up at will.

    Now watch how GSP takes his opponents down and controls them. That's wrestling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Hughes had no stand up and wasn't near the wrestler Jh was. Jh took condit down with ease and gsp isn't Damian Maia off his back. Everyone is doubting Jh cause he isnt cut to the bone, or flashy. He has man strength from years of wrestling and mark my words JH will be the new champ.
    words marked....I completely agree JH will be the next champ....and Damian Maia probably has theee best mma jiujitsu in the UFC

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Gsp will not lose to Hendricks. Gsp is a better wrestler, which will let him do what he wants. Does Hendricks have KO power, sure. Gsp will just put him on his back, and break him mentally. Besides Hendricks will gas in a 5rnd
    I dont think it will make it to championship rounds, who has GSP had problems with in the past, small guys with good punching power (Matt/Matt). Sure it was a long time ago, but Hendricks is far more powerful then the two of them out together.

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