Cruising vs PCT if Done Correctly

[lovbyts]

Im curious, could you please list your stats???

auswest is not asking for advice so no stats needed.
Just because you dont like the process doesn't mean it's going to change or we are going to stop asking. Even though I have been here for years I fully expect to be asked my stats and more if I am asking for advice.

[michael30]

auswest is not asking for advice so no stats needed.
Just because you dont like the process doesn't mean it's going to change or we are going to stop asking. Even though I have been here for years I fully expect to be asked my stats and more if I am asking for advice.

Huh? Your post makes zero sense? None!! Not sure how you came to the conclusion that i said anything about not liking any process? Did you just make that part up or are you making assumptions?

[lovbyts]

Huh? Your post makes zero sense? None!! Not sure how you came to the conclusion that i said anything about not liking any process? Did you just make that part up or are you making assumptions?

Yup it was an assumption. Sorry I though you had commented in this post about hating people asking for stats, you asking auswest looked sarcastic but sorry if I was wrong. This is the post I was thinking of, read from my phone a few days ago but obviously you did not comment in it.
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-l...ouchebags.html

[auswest]

Not sure the relevance of my stats, But to amuse you as of 30mins ago my weight is sitting 214lbs body fat is a guess @ 12-13 which is where I generally sit when consuming 20 cals per lb for steady growth. I am 5.8" tall, every aspect of my life revolves around my training with the unfortunate exception of work. Relevance of that means nothing I purely came here to express my opinion and experience regarding pct and long term test use call it what you like hrt/cruise. The choice to cruise comes when you are at a cross roads with your training and steroid use, you will know when you get there.

[davesah1]

I'm not advising it, as everyone's situation is different, and everyone's reasons for using may be different. But for me personally it got to a time where cycling on/off felt pointless and unhealthy. There soon becomes a time where cycling on/off starts to feel like a waste of time, attempting to maintain unnatural gains on lower than natural hormones for half the year is pointless, at this stage for me personally it is a waste trying to gain back your natural test production. It is a big commitment and not one I would choose to be on for simple reasons like pct is expensive. I made the choice for 2 reasons, 1. My latest natural test results came back at the lowest range of normal about 3-4 months post pct 2. I don't plan to stop using anytime soon. So now given that my recovery is becoming really hard and at best low end of normal, I could proberly recover better but I want to keep using steroids, so for me the answer is simple, why am I going to cycle and gain lbm for a few months then spend the next 3 months with test levels of a 60-70 year old man. Waste of time as I'm only going to get back on again without being "fully recovered" can I ever fully recover? Proberly not, am I willing to spend long enough off using to find out? No

If you want to know what I truly advise?
That would be not to touch steroids full stop, and if you have, then get out while you can. That's my honest advise.

well basically this is my second cycle and i have no intention of stopping anytime soon and I'd rather commit for life and be monster and die happy at whatever age than die without living what I want with a piss face on. Obviously bloods would be done often and test is dirt cheap, about than 25 a month to cruise. I got into the game and know I won't retain half these gains naturally, esp off tren. I'm torn apart rn. damn. Happiness vs. overall health (to a degree).

[davesah1]

Not sure the relevance of my stats, But to amuse you as of 30mins ago my weight is sitting 214lbs body fat is a guess @ 12-13 which is where I generally sit when consuming 20 cals per lb for steady growth. I am 5.8" tall, every aspect of my life revolves around my training with the unfortunate exception of work. Relevance of that means nothing I purely came here to express my opinion and experience regarding pct and long term test use call it what you like hrt/cruise. The choice to cruise comes when you are at a cross roads with your training and steroid use, you will know when you get there.

I'm 201-2 at 13% BF without the genes to keep half of that. havent gotten a BF test done but abs are very visible when flexed and my legs shoulders and arms have veins.

[davesah1]

auswest is not asking for advice so no stats needed.
Just because you dont like the process doesn't mean it's going to change or we are going to stop asking. Even though I have been here for years I fully expect to be asked my stats and more if I am asking for advice.

5'7 at 202 pounds at 13% BF my best friend.

[davesah1]

auswest is not asking for advice so no stats needed.
Just because you dont like the process doesn't mean it's going to change or we are going to stop asking. Even though I have been here for years I fully expect to be asked my stats and more if I am asking for advice.

5'7 at 202 pounds at 13% BF my best friend.

[lovbyts]

Is that Hypothetically like most of your other post?

[michael30]

Yup it was an assumption. Sorry I though you had commented in this post about hating people asking for stats, you asking auswest looked sarcastic but sorry if I was wrong. This is the post I was thinking of, read from my phone a few days ago but obviously you did not comment in it.
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-l...ouchebags.html

Its alright! Im sorry about my post, after rereading it seems overly aggressive compared to what you actually posted.

[lovbyts]

Its alright! Im sorry about my post, after rereading it seems overly aggressive compared to what you actually posted.

No worries, as you said I assumed and I was thinking of another post that was not yours.

[michael30]

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