Desperately need help - please give me ANY suggestions

[Ryanmcd]

Also, sometimes I wonder if my testosterone increase is due to the HCG or the Androgel. I ran them both at the same time and I'm secondary

That is why you do ***1*** thing at a time, do shots OR gel for 4-6 weeks run blood work THEN add/change something, if you do 2-3 things each time your NEVER going to figure it out.

Also this is not that hard you have 3 things

1. Test
2. HCG
3. AI if needed


Do you know how many people see a doc that just get test and do fine? I would say 80%+ because 80%+ docs don't even know about a AI and HCG. The key to all of this is give it TIME to work don't be so OCD/ADD and do 100 things at a time.


And yes you may have thyroid low temp etc etc but again it's all different, my temp is always about 97.9 and my TSH is .8 and T3 T4 are fine so everyone is different.

[Ryanmcd]

The 2 biggest things I see here are and Doc Crisler told me this years ago and I see posts list this everyday.

1. If you change something it can take WEEKS / MONTHS to show up, as in if you start on test don't think in 2 days if your ED is not fixed you need something else, also if you have high E2 after 2-3 weeks who cares, I did too but after 3 years I have yet to take any AI and my E2 is from 13- to 28 depending on diet and how much test I take / day of test etc and I FEEL great.

2. Don't chase numbers, after I did a test he would ask how I felt before I even knew what the numbers where, Hell I felt better with a 800 TT then I did at 1200, base on how you feel not just a number, if you want to run a cycle cool but at least learn TRT and how you should feel first.


P.s. I still think Crisler is a ass lol but he does know what he's talking about so who cares.

[Low Testosterone]

The 2 biggest things I see here are and Doc Crisler told me this years ago and I see posts list this everyday.

1. If you change something it can take WEEKS / MONTHS to show up, as in if you start on test don't think in 2 days if your ED is not fixed you need something else, also if you have high E2 after 2-3 weeks who cares, I did too but after 3 years I have yet to take any AI and my E2 is from 13- to 28 depending on diet and how much test I take / day of test etc and I FEEL great.

2. Don't chase numbers, after I did a test he would ask how I felt before I even knew what the numbers where, Hell I felt better with a 800 TT then I did at 1200, base on how you feel not just a number, if you want to run a cycle cool but at least learn TRT and how you should feel first.


P.s. I still think Crisler is a ass lol but he does know what he's talking about so who cares.

Excellent points!
Something else to keep in mind, our body goes through cycles, weekly, monthly and even yearly. Things do not remain perfectly constant at all times. Have you ever noticed that at certain times you're far hungrier and at other times far less hungry despite absolutely nothing in your life changing at either time? Or in some cases your libido is stronger than normal or slightly weaker than normal, again despite nothing in your life changing at either time. This is normal but when on TRT people tend to expect normal to go out the window. It's important to remember when on TRT you're still a human being....crazy isn't it? LOL!

[Beethoven]

The 2 biggest things I see here are and Doc Crisler told me this years ago and I see posts list this everyday.

1. If you change something it can take WEEKS / MONTHS to show up, as in if you start on test don't think in 2 days if your ED is not fixed you need something else, also if you have high E2 after 2-3 weeks who cares, I did too but after 3 years I have yet to take any AI and my E2 is from 13- to 28 depending on diet and how much test I take / day of test etc and I FEEL great.

2. Don't chase numbers, after I did a test he would ask how I felt before I even knew what the numbers where, Hell I felt better with a 800 TT then I did at 1200, base on how you feel not just a number, if you want to run a cycle cool but at least learn TRT and how you should feel first.


P.s. I still think Crisler is a ass lol but he does know what he's talking about so who cares.

I have been on trt for about eight months, been dialed in for about two. That said I'm still seeing improvements. It will not happen overnight. I think Chicago mentioned it was his experience that he thinks injectables are worthless. I strongly disagree. Judging by my experience you can see why people are flocking to injectables for trt and other things. You can't expect everything overnight. And I've also felt what low t alluded to which is your body goes thru ups and downs naturally. You have to give it time.

[CobraMustangSVT]

Thanks a lot guys. I'm very grateful for the advice. I'm really glad I came in this thread.