How much time after T3 Rebound??

[XxAndreaxX]

Exactly, pls re read my post....

hmmm yes I read your post, you say that I look like I don't train or even eat.
In the second photo I look great. if I find a photo of now, I'll post it
CUZ, I don't see your abs... I don't see your height. I can't see anything except your delts.

[jimmyinkedup]

hmmm yes I read your post, you say that I look like I don't train or even eat.
In the second photo I look great. if I find a photo of now, I'll post it
CUZ, I don't see your abs... I don't see your height. I can't see anything except your delts.

Bro based on the posts you make stating what you take, something is off and Marcus is right. Its diet and training, Taking what you say you do it is obvious you are not eating properly to really grow No BS, no flaming here, the straight scoop man. You should take a step back and learn how to eat and train to grow. The solution isnt some magic stack or cycle. Its hard work, dedication and eating training and resting properly.
I watched a youtube vid with rich Gaspari this am and he said something that is so true. There are guys at the gym taking way more gear than pros, and they dont even look remotely like they could steop on a stage. Some dont look like anything, because they dont realize what you take is 20% and what you do is the other 80%. He is so f-ing right man.

[Cuz]

hmmm yes I read your post, you say that I look like I don't train or even eat.
In the second photo I look great. if I find a photo of now, I'll post it
CUZ, I don't see your abs... I don't see your height. I can't see anything except your delts.

Im 6 2. I have abs. You dont want to pose down with me lol

[XxAndreaxX]

Bro based on the posts you make stating what you take, something is off and Marcus is right. Its diet and training, Taking what you say you do it is obvious you are not eating properly to really grow No BS, no flaming here, the straight scoop man. You should take a step back and learn how to eat and train to grow. The solution isnt some magic stack or cycle. Its hard work, dedication and eating training and resting properly.
I watched a youtube vid with rich Gaspari this am and he said something that is so true. There are guys at the gym taking way more gear than pros, and they dont even look remotely like they could steop on a stage. Some dont look like anything, because they dont realize what you take is 20% and what you do is the other 80%. He is so f-ing right man.

if there are people that take more gear than pros, and still look like shit, even look worse than many naturals, its not because their training or diet, its because their freakin genetics. The guy I'm pinning, he's freakin obsessed with diet, he's on full diet 365 days a year, he trains every freakin day 1-2 times, and guess what, he still looks like shit, I look way better than him, then there are natural freaks, that by doing nothing workout 2-3 days a week and eating crap, are way better then my mate. how do you explain this???

[jimmyinkedup]

if there are people that take more gear than pros, and still look like shit, even look worse than many naturals, its not because their training or diet, its because their freakin genetics. The guy I'm pinning, he's freakin obsessed with diet, he's on full diet 365 days a year, he trains every freakin day 1-2 times, and guess what, he still looks like shit, I look way better than him, then there are natural freaks, that by doing nothing workout 2-3 days a week and eating crap, are way better then my mate. how do you explain this???

I dont care about your mate of anyone else. Im talking about you. I am glad you feel that you look great. All Im saying is I have seen the cycles you say you do. Having seen them and the amounts Im telling you you are robbing yourself somewhere and that somewhere must be diet and training. You should have substantially more mass based on your cycles. You do not know how to properly eat to grow for you. You havent taken the time it takes to learn and fihgure that out. Instead you spend hourss coming u with goofy cycles and posting them. You skipped the basics and think the answer is some magical stack r combo, it isnt. Its diet training and rest and until you optimize them you are robbing yourself and wasting gear.

[XxAndreaxX]

I dont care about your mate of anyone else. Im talking about you. I am glad you feel that you look great. All Im saying is I have seen the cycles you say you do. Having seen them and the amounts Im telling you you are robbing yourself somewhere and that somewhere must be diet and training. You should have substantially more mass based on your cycles. You do not know how to properly eat to grow for you. You havent taken the time it takes to learn and fihgure that out. Instead you spend hourss coming u with goofy cycles and posting them. You skipped the basics and think the answer is some magical stack r combo, it isnt. Its diet training and rest and until you optimize them you are robbing yourself and wasting gear.

don't know, do you ever grow 8kg lean in 1 cycle while cutting down???
500mg test 400mg tren 400mg masteron, especially enanthate Ester are for you big doses????
400mg masteron E are not even close to minimal dose....
I never did bulking cycles I packed my 18kg all during cutting cycles....

[jimmyinkedup]

don't know, do you ever grow 8kg lean in 1 cycle while cutting down???
500mg test 400mg tren 400mg masteron, especially enanthate Ester are for you big doses????
400mg masteron E are not even close to minimal dose....
I never did bulking cycles I packed my 18kg all during cutting cycles....

Do we have to go through your post history and point out all the crazy shit you have posted as far as cycles etc? Cause we can. You dont even have the basic concept of cut and bulk down. No wonder your so small your trying to recomp every fuking cycle . You are robbing the shit out of yourself. Do a BULK, a real bulk, then do a cut, a real cut. No wonder you put out crazy stupid cycles cause f you are gonna try to put on muscle while losing fat every single cycle you have to try to resort to crazy means to do so. Talk to me when you have the basic bulk/cut concept down. You would be so much better served do a true bulk and then cut. You could gain some real mass. You keep trying to recomp you can put out all the crazy concept and cycles you want your muscle gain will be less and less as you keep going. Its ridiculous.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Andrea,

On a side note...
You don't need liposuction on your love handles.
Heck, I don't even see any love handles.
Not being a dick.

It is very easy to be over critical of oneself.

[marcus300]

Do we have to go through your post history and point out all the crazy shit you have posted as far as cycles etc? Cause we can. You dont even have the basic concept of cut and bulk down. No wonder your so small your trying to recomp every fuking cycle . You are robbing the shit out of yourself. Do a BULK, a real bulk, then do a cut, a real cut. No wonder you put out crazy stupid cycles cause f you are gonna try to put on muscle while losing fat you have to try to resort to crazy means to do so. Talk to me when you have the basic bulk/cut concept down. You would be so much better served do a true bulk and then cut. You could gain some real mass. You keep trying to recomp you can put out all the crazy concept and cycles you want your muscle gain will be less and less as you keep going. Its ridiculous.

Jimmy your a saint for trying again with this guy but he doesn't see what everyone else see's, that's his problem and that's why he will always look like a tennis player.

[Docd187123]

Jimmy your a saint for trying again with this guy but he doesn't see what everyone else see's, that's his problem and that's why he will always look like a tennis player.

Do tennis players even lift lol?

[marcus300]

Do tennis players even lift lol?

Exactly, no they don't.

[XxAndreaxX]

Do we have to go through your post history and point out all the crazy shit you have posted as far as cycles etc? Cause we can. You dont even have the basic concept of cut and bulk down. No wonder your so small your trying to recomp every fuking cycle . You are robbing the shit out of yourself. Do a BULK, a real bulk, then do a cut, a real cut. No wonder you put out crazy stupid cycles cause f you are gonna try to put on muscle while losing fat every single cycle you have to try to resort to crazy means to do so. Talk to me when you have the basic bulk/cut concept down. You would be so much better served do a true bulk and then cut. You could gain some real mass. You keep trying to recomp you can put out all the crazy concept and cycles you want your muscle gain will be less and less as you keep going. Its ridiculous.

You are right, its stupid to bulk in a cutting cycle. but I don't have any options, because I only want to cycle once a year. and due its for summer, I want to be cut. liposuction will help a lot, It will make the difference, possibly I could clean bulk in summer, and still look cut. Deadlifting dog, I do have crazy handles, but I'm always cut below 10% so you can't see them right. I can have veins all over my abs, and still have some freakin handles.
That's my new goal, and btw, I think I don't want to bulk more muscles, for shure I need more legs, maybe going from 86 to 90kg only putting on legs. but the rest, is nearly perfect for my needs, more size would enter in another category, and I want to stay lean, cut and have a pseudo-natural look.

[RangerDanger830]

The first step to being intelligent is to admit that you do not know everything. If you do not want to be any bigger, there is nothing wrong with that. There are a lot of aesthetics men and women out there. However, if you do just want to stay ripped then you do not need even half the gear you say you do.

When cutting all you really need is enough gear to keep you from getting catabolic. When you start talking about over a combined gram of gear in one week of a cycle then you are talking about an unnecessary amount of gear to cut with.

You just do what you want, what is it you want to hear from us again? T3 rebound should be very fast, a few days. There you go, that's what you wanted.

[XxAndreaxX]

The first step to being intelligent is to admit that you do not know everything. If you do not want to be any bigger, there is nothing wrong with that. There are a lot of aesthetics men and women out there. However, if you do just want to stay ripped then you do not need even half the gear you say you do.

When cutting all you really need is enough gear to keep you from getting catabolic. When you start talking about over a combined gram of gear in one week of a cycle then you are talking about an unnecessary amount of gear to cut with.

You just do what you want, what is it you want to hear from us again? T3 rebound should be very fast, a few days. There you go, that's what you wanted.

Thanks for the info man, I know half the gear is enough to be anti-catabolic... but this summer I needed to be anabolic. that's why I gained 8kg even by cutting. next year I won't need to bulk again, so I will cycle very light, I could even stay at 300 test e and 200 tren e and 600 masteron e.
no fatburner at all.

[XxAndreaxX]

my evolution so far:
stock after doing regular gym and musculation:

70kg

this after 2 years and 2nd cycle:

78kg

this 3rd year, beginning 3rd cycle

83kg